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Well since i'm a very strong perciever i've always been confused at my random organisation splurges. I'll be my normal lazy unorganised self then suddenly its like a switch just turned on and i'm organised somehow


What usually happens I'll attempt to organise my mind at first, try to remember what I've forgotten recentley, get my priorities straight and even organise my emotions and personality in general. I'll then move onto an attempt organising everything i've unorganised recently and try to make everything I do worthwhile, planned and doing something that I can benefit from which is usually playing my guitar to death, writing poetry, trying to gain knowledge or heavy socialising (i'm a borderline Extrovert ;) ). I'll carry on doing this in circles for a while then suddenly i'll snap and all my efforts will seem pointless so i'll return to being extremely lazy and lacking in any organisation.

It can be very frustrating because I am really really lazy and I refuse to do things I think are pointless

I'm going through one of my organised splurges right now which might be even why i'm posting this thread.. I just wanted to see if anymore of you infp's or maybe even p's in general goes through this cycle?



Wow today I am very organised *admires the attempt at organisation in this post that only took 15 mins to create* :crazy:
 
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Yes but they usually last a day or two maybe a week at tops :p
Hopefully I'll try even harder this year, I need to become organized if I want to succeed in university...(http://personalitycafe.com/infp-forum-idealists/29457-infps-schedules.html)

Oh sometimes I even make a plan on my mind but it stays there :p
I'm a terrible planner! My father is xSTJ and so organized it sickens me. He showed me some techniques and hopefully I'll stick to them.
 

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Though almost every aspect of my life is strictly planned and organized I have problems concerning cleaning up my apartment. It can turn into a real mess. Sometimes I'll make a vow to clean up everything, and it works out for the first week or so, but then it all just sinks back into decay and jungle.

It has something to do with the fact that I don't really find it necessary to clean. I don't want people here anyway, and my girlfriend don't seem to mind the state my apartment is in. So my floor is my shelf - all the books and papers I use for study are spread all over it. I often have a bit of trouble finding stuff, so it would really be more efficient if I just put up in the work - but I can't seem to get going.

That results in the same strange cycle where sometimes it's clean and neat, while most of the time it's a dump. So I know what you mean.
 

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Sometimes I do. Perhaps its motivated a little by guilt, that part of you sees you are achieving little and it believes you can be more, so it tries to push you to do more, to climb out of the pit if you will. You try and move your life forward, to organise the chaos so you can pass through it easier, perhaps like someone tries to cut down overgrown trees or shrubs to walk down a path easier. However what you are doing is perhaps a little counter-intuitive and you run out of steam and fall back into your old ways.

However, thats what its like for me anyway :) I have quite a high I but on some tests I have scored a bit low on the P (as low as 55% on one) although I'm way too unorganised to be a J. This is similar to how I lament the failures in my life so I sit up and say "I must try and get more done!" only to get to the critical moment and get nothing done.

That's my idea anyway.
 

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I always think how I have to get my act together, organize, be disciplined...Sometimes I plan to make a plan. Like, 'ok, so my plan for tomorrow is to write a plan and my life will finally make sense, I will know what to do because I will write intructions for myself. tomorrow.':proud: But then my super duper organized friend comes over, and it's like 'what's up, what are you doing tomorrow?'

'I'm writing a plan for myself.'

'oooh kaaay, and what else?'

'what do you mean?'

'when are you going to start implementing this plan of yours?'

'day after tomorrow.' :unsure:
 

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Though almost every aspect of my life is strictly planned and organized I have problems concerning cleaning up my apartment. It can turn into a real mess. Sometimes I'll make a vow to clean up everything, and it works out for the first week or so, but then it all just sinks back into decay and jungle.

It has something to do with the fact that I don't really find it necessary to clean. I don't want people here anyway, and my girlfriend don't seem to mind the state my apartment is in. So my floor is my shelf - all the books and papers I use for study are spread all over it. I often have a bit of trouble finding stuff, so it would really be more efficient if I just put up in the work - but I can't seem to get going.

That results in the same strange cycle where sometimes it's clean and neat, while most of the time it's a dump. So I know what you mean.
As long as you don't lose sleep to hunt cockroaches it's fine. Unfortunately I reached that stage. :bored::unsure:
 

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Though almost every aspect of my life is strictly planned and organized I have problems concerning cleaning up my apartment. It can turn into a real mess. Sometimes I'll make a vow to clean up everything, and it works out for the first week or so, but then it all just sinks back into decay and jungle.

It has something to do with the fact that I don't really find it necessary to clean. I don't want people here anyway, and my girlfriend don't seem to mind the state my apartment is in. So my floor is my shelf - all the books and papers I use for study are spread all over it. I often have a bit of trouble finding stuff, so it would really be more efficient if I just put up in the work - but I can't seem to get going.

That results in the same strange cycle where sometimes it's clean and neat, while most of the time it's a dump. So I know what you mean.
That stage when you start to think you're living in a dump i'd probably think was pretty organised and clean ;) I always get to the stage when some people start telling me "you can honestly live in this mess" and i'll say "What mess?" I can deal with unorganisation where I live but when things start to get slightly disgusting and unclean I take action and give in
 

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Sometimes I do. Perhaps its motivated a little by guilt, that part of you sees you are achieving little and it believes you can be more, so it tries to push you to do more, to climb out of the pit if you will. You try and move your life forward, to organise the chaos so you can pass through it easier, perhaps like someone tries to cut down overgrown trees or shrubs to walk down a path easier. However what you are doing is perhaps a little counter-intuitive and you run out of steam and fall back into your old ways.

However, thats what its like for me anyway :) I have quite a high I but on some tests I have scored a bit low on the P (as low as 55% on one) although I'm way too unorganised to be a J. This is similar to how I lament the failures in my life so I sit up and say "I must try and get more done!" only to get to the critical moment and get nothing done.

That's my idea anyway.
Yes, guilt does sometimes change my attitude and help me get things done. But most of the time it will only stay for a day or two. You pretty much hit the nail on the head with everything else you said there as well that is exactly what happened to me today, it really does seem like a problem most intuitive perceivers would face.

I also have the same problem of waiting till the critical moment to get things done, although everything gets done better when done at the last critical strangely enough for me anyway.
 

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Yes but they usually last a day or two maybe a week at tops :p
Hopefully I'll try even harder this year, I need to become organized if I want to succeed in university...(http://personalitycafe.com/infp-forum-idealists/29457-infps-schedules.html)

Oh sometimes I even make a plan on my mind but it stays there :p
I'm a terrible planner! My father is xSTJ and so organized it sickens me. He showed me some techniques and hopefully I'll stick to them.
I always plan so many wonderful things in my head as well that I never do but most of the time I just forget them anyway :p I need some organisation techniques desperately, my family consist of infj's and isfj's but they tend to just nag me to organise myself all the time which does not help in the slightest.
 

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I always think how I have to get my act together, organize, be disciplined...Sometimes I plan to make a plan. Like, 'ok, so my plan for tomorrow is to write a plan and my life will finally make sense, I will know what to do because I will write intructions for myself. tomorrow.':proud: But then my super duper organized friend comes over, and it's like 'what's up, what are you doing tomorrow?'

'I'm writing a plan for myself.'

'oooh kaaay, and what else?'

'what do you mean?'

'when are you going to start implementing this plan of yours?'

'day after tomorrow.' :unsure:
SNAP! and i also have a really organised friend who knows how unorganised I am, but he finds it absolutely hilarious and mocks me.
 

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I always plan so many wonderful things in my head as well that I never do but most of the time I just forget them anyway :p I need some organisation techniques desperately, my family consist of infj's and isfj's but they tend to just nag me to organise myself all the time which does not help in the slightest.
See the topic I linked for some plans, especially about studying, but can be generalized to almost everything!
I've even gone to a therapist to solve that problem, but unless I take it seriously it won't work. You usually have to take small steps, if it's too big and fancy plan it will overwhelm you. That's the key probably.
 

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See the topic I linked for some plans, especially about studying, but can be generalized to almost everything!
I've even gone to a therapist to solve that problem, but unless I take it seriously it won't work. You usually have to take small steps, if it's too big and fancy plan it will overwhelm you. That's the key probably.
Thanks for the advice and I'll look at that topic that you linked. I've never thought about going to a therapist about these problems.
 
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That stage when you start to think you're living in a dump i'd probably think was pretty organised and clean ;) I always get to the stage when some people start telling me "you can honestly live in this mess" and i'll say "What mess?" I can deal with unorganisation where I live but when things start to get slightly disgusting and unclean I take action and give in
Disgusting, check. Unclean, check.

I don't mind cobwebs or coke stains on the floor, and in the past I've had pizza boxes standing in corners for weeks. I'm not particularly happy about it, but I think I have to insist that I'm a bit of a slob. People who see my place are usually shocked, because judging by the way I behave and act, it's pretty clear that I'm the perfectionist mastermind INTJ's are made out to be. Tabs on individual papers, indexes for my study notes, and I always remember assignments and never arrive late. Now if only I could fix that damn apartment....
 

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I am pretty organized most of the time. I mean, extremely organized; my closet is color-coded, my films and books are alphabetized, and, generally speaking, everything has a place. I'm the same way with my computer files and the songs in my iTunes library. I just can't let everything be out of place, and I'm so sensitive to my environment if things are messy. I also just enjoy the process of physically organizing things.

Every now and then I will go through a phase during which I just don't care about anything, and then I'll become quite a slacker. But this is more rare than my organization mode.
 

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Disgusting, check. Unclean, check.

I don't mind cobwebs or coke stains on the floor, and in the past I've had pizza boxes standing in corners for weeks. I'm not particularly happy about it, but I think I have to insist that I'm a bit of a slob. People who see my place are usually shocked, because judging by the way I behave and act, it's pretty clear that I'm the perfectionist mastermind INTJ's are made out to be. Tabs on individual papers, indexes for my study notes, and I always remember assignments and never arrive late. Now if only I could fix that damn apartment....
There is a thing you can do: put big trash bags in places you can reach easily, for example the handle of your room's door, or a trash can near where you spend most of the time. Big bags eh! Does wonders!
 

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oh...yah. I usually like to love in a certain amount of organized chaos. However I tend to dislike disorganization in others. I straighten up my bf's room/stuff all the time. I'll be perfectly fine in a space and then I'll suddinly decide that I want everything to have a place and be in it. :laughing:
 
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Today I did a massive tidy up of the bathroom cupboard! I threw away loads of old stuff and organised the nice stuff that was left. Problem - I only got halfway through the last bit and so the carrier bags of rubbish are still upstairs blocking the bathroom door. Must make sure I finish the job tomorrow!
 

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I always think how I have to get my act together, organize, be disciplined...Sometimes I plan to make a plan. Like, 'ok, so my plan for tomorrow is to write a plan and my life will finally make sense, I will know what to do because I will write intructions for myself. tomorrow.':proud: But then my super duper organized friend comes over, and it's like 'what's up, what are you doing tomorrow?'

'I'm writing a plan for myself.'

'oooh kaaay, and what else?'

'what do you mean?'

'when are you going to start implementing this plan of yours?'

'day after tomorrow.' :unsure:
This has been every day for me lately. I'm getting frustrated over it.
 
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