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My first post on this forum was an awkward, "Hi how are you?" so naturally my second is an awkward "What do you think?" I apologize immediately rushing into this, but I've been rummaging around the internet looking for understanding of all this, and frankly, this forum has impressed me once or twice. I can't remember who it was, but someone explained to me the cognitive functions using Whinne the Pooh, and it helped me more than all the parrot-cut-and-paste articles I keep finding. So please, take my eagerness as a compliment.
P.S. Thank you Herp for making this form. Makes posting about this 10x easier.
1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?
I've tested numerous times and INTJ comes up the vast majority of the time. I think I've gotten another result maybe twice. However, I've been told not to trust the online tests, and to understand your functions in order to know your type.
I have doubts about INTJ because every where I go I keep hearing how amazing they are in academics, science, math and philosophy. I hate school and academics. I'm horrible at math and science, and have only a passing interest in philosophy. I feel out of place when I read the posts of other INTJs. I know I shouldn't base doubts on that, but there you are.
2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?
Well of things I yearn for that I have the possibility of actually *having*. I'd say self mastery. People are often their own enemies, but if they can control and discipline themselves they are their greatest ally. There are few things that they could *not* do.
3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
Ok, this is going to sound pathetic but it has to do with a computer game. Once upon a time there was an online massive multiplayer game called Warhammer Online. I played it before it took huge nose dive into obscurity and broke my heart. Back when it was a heavily populated game. This game was very dependent on player vs player combat. One side's army (composed of many players) would try and take the opposing sides keep or city. Because each soldier was an individual player, you could have upwards of fifty or people in your group with you . (Sometimes hundreds depending on how it was arranged. The first time a city fell in the game it was due to up to a thousand players working together) The combat was well put together so these sieges and attacks could get pretty intense, as it was important that everyone move together. It really got the blood going. Well I got home from work one night and logged on. I was in a warband for about twenty minutes (a warband is a group of players consisting of around 6 to 48 players. Ours was full) After about twenty minutes the warband leader announces he has to log for dinner, who wants to lead the group. Everybody shuts up. Everyone wants to fight, but no one wants to lead because its like herding cats. I just got home, I'm tired, I was really looking forward to this and now it looks like the warband is going to end. Frustrated, I step up and say I'll do it. Two hours later I've locked down and captured every single keep within my tier range, and I've got two other warbands communicating with me and following my lead. The high point came when we started approaching enemy keeps and seeing enemy players actually running out of it *away* from us. Too demoralized to stand and fight. So yes, its pathetic but the only memory I can recall at the moment that fills me with pride is when I served with distinction in an imaginary war in a game that hit rock bottom.
4) What makes you feel inferior?
Comparing myself to others. I always feel that everyone around me is doing better in life than I am. Academics also makes me feel inferior. Don't get me wrong I applaud those who can do science and math, but listening to them talk sometimes makes me feel like an idiot.
5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
What I ask myself is, Does this make sense, rationally, morally and ethically? What will provide the best long term outcome?
6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
I do like to have control but it absolutely necessary. I want to do my part of the project to the best of my ability, and to make sure it harmonizes with the other parts. No harmony, no finished project. At least not a *good* finished project.
7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
Well the incident I described for question 3 would have to be one of those times, lol. I would also say playing D&D with some of my friends. One particular incident involved a hive of howler wasps, and the banning of all greater alchemical fire flasks from the game. I loved it because it was a story, with a character I designed and that character was interacting with other characters and the world around him. I've played story focused RPGs on the PC before but there was something special about this. You could do almost anything or try to do anything.
8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
I need to see it, and then I need to do it once or twice.
9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
Fairly organized. If I think its important I'll organize it. If not, as long as its located in a general area.
10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
A little bit of both. The first thing I do is understand the principles. Does this make sense? Then if it does I begin searching my mind for an example that helps support this idea.
11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
This is a tricky question. When working with a group its important that the group moves together I think, but there are points where I go "No. I don't buy your idea. This is what should be done." It maybe more accurate to say that I tend to gravitate towards groups I think I would harmonize naturally with. If I think the tasks or whatever is going on with the group is important enough, I'll try to comply more with the group.
12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
I think before I speak. Sometimes I don't think long enough, but yes I do think. I prefer one on one communication, if in a group then no larger than four or five.
13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
I like to have some direction first. Sometimes I get a little over excited and leap first, but thats rare. I at least some sort of preliminary idea in place before I leap. It then gets refined bit by bit as I go along. Actions speak louder than words, as actions tend to give the best support *to* your words. But I think both are needed.
14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
I go out. When I was a teenager I didn't go out anywhere. I can do TV anytime. Its not like the same episode isn't going to appear twice, or I couldn't look it up on Hulu.
15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
I get really quiet, and I'm told I radiate rage. When I talk it sometimes sound like I'm trying to be overly gentle (and I think I am). I want solitude. No people. I want silence. I slip into my depression and start seeing the world through its lens. Will eat horrible foods and sleep long periods of time.
16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
Arrogance is something I've always despised. Also naivete and overly friendly/peppy attitudes. People who seem to have no restraint when they talk to others. Also, if your being friendly to me only because you feel obligated to, I WILL pick up on that. I really dislike many teenage girls for their inability to take anything seriously and laugh at the slightest provocation. Oh and also because of the lack of restraint thing, but that applies to both genders of teenagers.
17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
I am a huge fantasy nerd, so anything pertaining to books and rpg games I love talking about. I also love talking about extreme hypothetical situations. I mean they are extreme to the point of comedy. Like how to hunt moose with a snorkel and a pair of brass knuckles extreme. Becoming grocery pirates with ATVs and a semi. I like this because its funny to think about, and it gets funnier the more you start to think out the how of it all.
18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life
That is hard to say. I would assume family. We aren't very close. This is a difficult question for me to pin down.
19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?
Another hard one, I have few friends and I never ask them how they perceive me. I never ask along the lines of 'what do you think of me'. I'm curious to know, but I don't ask. If I had to guess it would be that I'm a bit of a smart ass. Not very social with strangers. Easily frustrated. At one of our gatherings one of them compared me with Eyore;
"If Night had a Disney character it would be Eyore. How was your day Night?
'I came to work, some customers came in and I HATED them' "
I laughed so hard at this because its very accurate, it was only later that I realized that this might have been a more forceful jab at me than I realized, but still, accurate. I can gravitate towards the negative easily, even when I don't *feel* negative.
I've also been told I'm very honest at times.
I guess what they wouldn't say is, that I'm bouncy. They wouldn't call me an extravert. That I would be a sunny person. They wouldn't call me a liar, or shallow, that much I'm sure.
20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?
Whenever I have a day like this I'm torn between what I want to do and what I *should* do. I should be exercising, I should be cleaning this or the other. I should be learning to do this and that. Improving myself.
What I *want* to do is game, read, nap and dream. Anything that indulges my sense of fantasy and imagination. Discovering well written books, web comics and games always energizes me and makes me restless. I sometimes can't even do this because picking an RPG class is a nightmare to me.
P.S. Thank you Herp for making this form. Makes posting about this 10x easier.
1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?
I've tested numerous times and INTJ comes up the vast majority of the time. I think I've gotten another result maybe twice. However, I've been told not to trust the online tests, and to understand your functions in order to know your type.
I have doubts about INTJ because every where I go I keep hearing how amazing they are in academics, science, math and philosophy. I hate school and academics. I'm horrible at math and science, and have only a passing interest in philosophy. I feel out of place when I read the posts of other INTJs. I know I shouldn't base doubts on that, but there you are.
2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?
Well of things I yearn for that I have the possibility of actually *having*. I'd say self mastery. People are often their own enemies, but if they can control and discipline themselves they are their greatest ally. There are few things that they could *not* do.
3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
Ok, this is going to sound pathetic but it has to do with a computer game. Once upon a time there was an online massive multiplayer game called Warhammer Online. I played it before it took huge nose dive into obscurity and broke my heart. Back when it was a heavily populated game. This game was very dependent on player vs player combat. One side's army (composed of many players) would try and take the opposing sides keep or city. Because each soldier was an individual player, you could have upwards of fifty or people in your group with you . (Sometimes hundreds depending on how it was arranged. The first time a city fell in the game it was due to up to a thousand players working together) The combat was well put together so these sieges and attacks could get pretty intense, as it was important that everyone move together. It really got the blood going. Well I got home from work one night and logged on. I was in a warband for about twenty minutes (a warband is a group of players consisting of around 6 to 48 players. Ours was full) After about twenty minutes the warband leader announces he has to log for dinner, who wants to lead the group. Everybody shuts up. Everyone wants to fight, but no one wants to lead because its like herding cats. I just got home, I'm tired, I was really looking forward to this and now it looks like the warband is going to end. Frustrated, I step up and say I'll do it. Two hours later I've locked down and captured every single keep within my tier range, and I've got two other warbands communicating with me and following my lead. The high point came when we started approaching enemy keeps and seeing enemy players actually running out of it *away* from us. Too demoralized to stand and fight. So yes, its pathetic but the only memory I can recall at the moment that fills me with pride is when I served with distinction in an imaginary war in a game that hit rock bottom.
4) What makes you feel inferior?
Comparing myself to others. I always feel that everyone around me is doing better in life than I am. Academics also makes me feel inferior. Don't get me wrong I applaud those who can do science and math, but listening to them talk sometimes makes me feel like an idiot.
5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
What I ask myself is, Does this make sense, rationally, morally and ethically? What will provide the best long term outcome?
6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
I do like to have control but it absolutely necessary. I want to do my part of the project to the best of my ability, and to make sure it harmonizes with the other parts. No harmony, no finished project. At least not a *good* finished project.
7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
Well the incident I described for question 3 would have to be one of those times, lol. I would also say playing D&D with some of my friends. One particular incident involved a hive of howler wasps, and the banning of all greater alchemical fire flasks from the game. I loved it because it was a story, with a character I designed and that character was interacting with other characters and the world around him. I've played story focused RPGs on the PC before but there was something special about this. You could do almost anything or try to do anything.
8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
I need to see it, and then I need to do it once or twice.
9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
Fairly organized. If I think its important I'll organize it. If not, as long as its located in a general area.
10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
A little bit of both. The first thing I do is understand the principles. Does this make sense? Then if it does I begin searching my mind for an example that helps support this idea.
11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
This is a tricky question. When working with a group its important that the group moves together I think, but there are points where I go "No. I don't buy your idea. This is what should be done." It maybe more accurate to say that I tend to gravitate towards groups I think I would harmonize naturally with. If I think the tasks or whatever is going on with the group is important enough, I'll try to comply more with the group.
12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
I think before I speak. Sometimes I don't think long enough, but yes I do think. I prefer one on one communication, if in a group then no larger than four or five.
13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
I like to have some direction first. Sometimes I get a little over excited and leap first, but thats rare. I at least some sort of preliminary idea in place before I leap. It then gets refined bit by bit as I go along. Actions speak louder than words, as actions tend to give the best support *to* your words. But I think both are needed.
14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
I go out. When I was a teenager I didn't go out anywhere. I can do TV anytime. Its not like the same episode isn't going to appear twice, or I couldn't look it up on Hulu.
15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
I get really quiet, and I'm told I radiate rage. When I talk it sometimes sound like I'm trying to be overly gentle (and I think I am). I want solitude. No people. I want silence. I slip into my depression and start seeing the world through its lens. Will eat horrible foods and sleep long periods of time.
16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
Arrogance is something I've always despised. Also naivete and overly friendly/peppy attitudes. People who seem to have no restraint when they talk to others. Also, if your being friendly to me only because you feel obligated to, I WILL pick up on that. I really dislike many teenage girls for their inability to take anything seriously and laugh at the slightest provocation. Oh and also because of the lack of restraint thing, but that applies to both genders of teenagers.
17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
I am a huge fantasy nerd, so anything pertaining to books and rpg games I love talking about. I also love talking about extreme hypothetical situations. I mean they are extreme to the point of comedy. Like how to hunt moose with a snorkel and a pair of brass knuckles extreme. Becoming grocery pirates with ATVs and a semi. I like this because its funny to think about, and it gets funnier the more you start to think out the how of it all.
18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life
That is hard to say. I would assume family. We aren't very close. This is a difficult question for me to pin down.
19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?
Another hard one, I have few friends and I never ask them how they perceive me. I never ask along the lines of 'what do you think of me'. I'm curious to know, but I don't ask. If I had to guess it would be that I'm a bit of a smart ass. Not very social with strangers. Easily frustrated. At one of our gatherings one of them compared me with Eyore;
"If Night had a Disney character it would be Eyore. How was your day Night?
'I came to work, some customers came in and I HATED them' "
I laughed so hard at this because its very accurate, it was only later that I realized that this might have been a more forceful jab at me than I realized, but still, accurate. I can gravitate towards the negative easily, even when I don't *feel* negative.
I've also been told I'm very honest at times.
I guess what they wouldn't say is, that I'm bouncy. They wouldn't call me an extravert. That I would be a sunny person. They wouldn't call me a liar, or shallow, that much I'm sure.
20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?
Whenever I have a day like this I'm torn between what I want to do and what I *should* do. I should be exercising, I should be cleaning this or the other. I should be learning to do this and that. Improving myself.
What I *want* to do is game, read, nap and dream. Anything that indulges my sense of fantasy and imagination. Discovering well written books, web comics and games always energizes me and makes me restless. I sometimes can't even do this because picking an RPG class is a nightmare to me.
