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Well certainly. If someone takes a test, answer the questions truthfully (or so you would think), and the result is bogus, then there's a good reason to believe that the whole system is false. About people not caring about this, personality types are just another subject that people find either interesting or uninteresting. And for some people it might be of use and it might not be of use. So...I think people who find this uninteresting and useless couldn't care less about personality typing.
 

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lol, so judging by the fact you used types to type people together by interest, I oughta go out on a limb and say you're not one of them?

I think it's kind of close to what T-guy said... although I would ammend it to say that the more common a type is, the less likely they are to care about it. Jung (I think it was him... may have been Keirsey) estimated that the INxx's were about 1% of the population each, ESxx's were about 13 each, and all the others were between 5-6. Now.. I mean, the core of the theory is the psychological functions and how the brain develops. By the time you get down to the internet descriptions that people read, it's other people just saying "hey... I think these functions would tend to lead to similar interests and abilities," and writing them down as a kind of summary. From here on I'm gonna be talking about the psychological functions when I talk about "type" as a noun.

So I think the less common the test tends to tell you that you are (whether the types are just illusions and really you're just classifying people with similar views on life together or if the types are actually true), the more accurately the descriptions are going to fit, because they're based off of a smaller sample size. Of course there's variability in any population, but there's a lot less variability given 100 people with similar base worldviews than there is given 1000 people with them.

Then there's the fact that, quite simply, society is built for certain kinds of people. More common kinds of people have more people around them who understand them easier, because they see roughly eye to eye (again, whether it's the type or just varying opinions actually account for the difference is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first... in both cases the people who test as a certain type see roughly eye to eye)... so the rarer ones are used to just being different and less understood.

Both of these things to point to "ESxx's care the least, INxx's care the most... mixed bag in between." I would tend to think that the ENxx's would care more than the ISxx's, just because intuition by typing is based on whether or not people like to look for connections and new applications and dreaming about things... so whether the type is based on worldview or the worldview is partially determined by type, they would be more drawn in by the new theory.
 

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I have found very few S types who are interested in type theory. I guess this is probably because it deals with the intangible aspects of the self, and they are more likely to be focused on the external world. The SJs think it's a distraction from work, the SPs think it's a distraction from play, and one ESFP explained that he thought it was a horrible thing that denied the value of individuality. Since he was a very spontaneous person who valued being unpredictable, he felt that the test was too confining and was an attempt to put him into a little box. When the description turned out to be accurate, he said.... "Well, it's uncanny how well that describes me, but... it's still a load of bull!" One ISTJ refused to take it because it violated her sense of privacy and seemed like a "waste of her time." My ISFJ friend wouldn't take it because she felt that the very idea of having an individual personality went counter to her belief in the importance of dying to self, and was against her religion, violating her strong sense of duty. She had an idea that there was only one kind of personality that was acceptable: the personality that God wanted us all to be, which to her, seemed clearly ISFJ. Everyone who has ever refused to take the test for me was someone I have carefully observed or have tricked into answering the questions without using the test, and they all turned out to be S types. Not all S types dislike it, but they tend to take less interest in it than the N types.
 

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Well certainly. If someone takes a test, answer the questions truthfully (or so you would think), and the result is bogus, then there's a good reason to believe that the whole system is false. About people not caring about this, personality types are just another subject that people find either interesting or uninteresting. And for some people it might be of use and it might not be of use. So...I think people who find this uninteresting and useless couldn't care less about personality typing.
Good point. I gotta say you are really the only S I know that is into this. The S people I know seem to turn the noses up at it.
 

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I don't think S types require a theory of personality as much as the N types. They can deal with individuals by observing physical clues. They don't have to project themselves into another's position using a process of imagining what it would be like to see from another perspective, because they notice the way someone's body shifts when that person is uncomfortable. They figure out patterns of behavior for the individuals and don't need to fit those tendencies into a theoretical framework to make sense of them. It doesn't matter what it means, as long as it is clearly observable. The effect is the same. It means that they may never understand us on a deeper level, but then again, my ESFP friend was very good at understanding people. He could state things about my friends that I wouldn't have noticed. "[Person A] isn't as smart as he thinks he is, [person B] isn't as mature as he thinks he is, and you talk about things as if they were how they should be instead of how they actually are." He was right about everyone, and I was surprised.
 

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I'm not. I don't look at people because I always feel like I'm invading them when I do.
 

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I pretty much intuitively knew what was up, but I recently began reading articles and books on it. It really just gave a name to what I already knew. It is fascinating.
yep, but I feel everyone has thier own body languarge it is just about reading the atmosphere i guess.
 

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maybe ISTP because i know two person who is ISTP that doesn't like this kind of stuff..
well i think it's true,there is lots of 'S' type who doesn't like personality typing matter..
you can also see the S personality type forum it's almost empty :p there's only few S people there :D
 

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I don't think S types require a theory of personality as much as the N types. They can deal with individuals by observing physical clues. They don't have to project themselves into another's position using a process of imagining what it would be like to see from another perspective, because they notice the way someone's body shifts when that person is uncomfortable. They figure out patterns of behavior for the individuals and don't need to fit those tendencies into a theoretical framework to make sense of them. It doesn't matter what it means, as long as it is clearly observable. The effect is the same. It means that they may never understand us on a deeper level, but then again, my ESFP friend was very good at understanding people. He could state things about my friends that I wouldn't have noticed. "[Person A] isn't as smart as he thinks he is, [person B] isn't as mature as he thinks he is, and you talk about things as if they were how they should be instead of how they actually are." He was right about everyone, and I was surprised.
excellent point--i would do anything to be both an N and an S! i want to develop my S.
i have noticed the same thing--people who i wouldn't really go to to 'discuss' something because they would be bored/uninterested-and then they make the most interesting observations about people that might take me a much greater time to realize... but they get it so quickly and i cant figure out how they do it! and S's dont seem to want to share how they do this. so frustrating. but i have experienced exactly what you just said about those short observations that S's make that turn out to be so accurate-when at first, they seemed almost sassy, arrogant,or just the product of some defense mechanism...
 

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I'm pretty good at reading body language.
Not hard to read the body language of your avatar!

Great thread! Is there a breakdown on here of percentages of people by type that are using this forum? That would be interesting to see and might give a clue as to which types are actively studying it on here at least. :happy:
 

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ESFP - had to use sound persuasion to get them to even stay seated long enough to test. Even worse trying to verify with additional testing.
Ya this is true. My mom is an ESFP and I would have to tie her to my chair in order to get her into this. I am surprised the the ESTJ and ESTPs are getting into it. Many of my friends are these types and I could not picture them gaining any interest in these sort of discussions. Kudos to you estjs and estps.
 

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For the last few months I've been asking work colleagues to take one of the online tests. Ok it's not the official one but I think it's pretty good for what it is. More recently I put the link to the test up on our works intranet. Altogether I've only had 115 responses so far and if you want to know a type who doesnt dig taking personality tests then its' M.A.L.E. But as for types who seem to dig it or at least express interest when I send them their profile quite a few have been ESFJ. In fact one ESFJ sent me a message to tell me that she knew 2 men in her office had done the test ages ago but refused to email me. "I know they're ISFJ just send me the link to their profiles and I'll pass it on". A male ESFJ ordered his work team to take it! ESFPs have gone "Ooh that is soooo me". One INFP commented that she wasn't surprised that there weren't many of her type in the world. An ENTJ when I said I'd be sending him a profile told me he he didn't need anything to tell him how weird he knew he already was. It's mostlythe Es who have tried it out on their families; or at least it's the Es who've told me that's what they've done. I got my mother to take it but she practically uuhmed and aahed through the entire choices. And to my surprise she came out INFP but with the I/E 50/50. I do know from the things she tells me that she was a highly imaginative and introverted child.
 

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ESFJ most likely. Don't see many of them running around :)
 
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