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So I've read descriptions of both types and there are aspects of both that I relate to. I feel like if I'm an ISFJ, I have a really bad memory for one and am lacking in practicality, logic, etc. But I don't think I'm really that intuitive, although I'd love to be. (I'm jealous of anyone who can "read people" well- people's minds and personalities fascinate me). I know they are separate temperaments, but I think I might be an ISFJ, INFJ wannabe.

Some things that may or may not be relevant:

-I feel like I generally take things at face value, and then remember to analyze them.
-I easily get jealous of and am possessive of my friends, but don't show it.
-I cannot or do not bother to predict the outcome to books or movies. Twist endings almost always take me by surprise.
-I am insecure- when someone compliments me on working quickly, I always get paranoid that I left something out. I often feel like I'm not good at anything.
-I envy people who don't seem to let anything bother them. I often feel weak because I'm overly sensitive
-I love the idea of being part of a group- when everyone depends on and cares about one another. I like assembly lines.
-Intuition confuses me, period. Maybe I'm thinking of it in the wrong sense.
-I often imagine elaborate conversations with people- real, fictional, strangers, and friends
-I enjoy analyzing friends and fictional characters
-I don't mind breaking rules and sometimes enjoy it (when doing so doesn't hurt others in any way)
-My dad frequently gets frustrated with me because whenever he asks me a question, I think of why he's asking that question and answer that instead of the actual question.
-I consider myself liberal (politically wise). The idea that anyone has pre-determined roles in society annoys me
-I'm attracted to things that are "dark"- music, art, people
-A good way to motivate me is to criticize me- I'll want to prove you wrong
-Whenever I'm listening to music in my car, I keep the windows up because I don't want anyone else to hear what I'm listening to. I will, however, freely tell people what type of music I like. I don't understand this.
-From the type descriptions, a world of "hidden meanings and possibilities" seems much more appealing than one that is "concrete and kind"
-I have trouble understanding basic logical concepts.
-I have difficulty "living in the moment"- I'm always worried about what's going to happen next
Any feedback would be welcome. I know this was long- I appreciate it if you read it all the way through (or at all)
Thank you!
 

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Hmm...well I would say I'm good at history and biology, but have trouble remembering things like dates and places (which I assume an ISFJ would remember?), and am more likely to remember cause and effect relationships or themes. I notice what people look like (usually) but quickly forget after I'm not looking at them anymore. Appearance is pretty important to me though. Practicality annoys me- I probably will end up doing the practical thing, but I won't want to. And I definitely zone out a lot (most of the time).
So what do you think?
 
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I've considered both INFP and ISFP, but I'm a strong extraverted feeler, and need to have things planned out and decided. I'm happiest when I'm working with others to achieve a goal. I'm constantly trying to "organize" everything.
Vel- I meant that my personal appearance is important to me, and I have a strong aesthetic appreciation. I'm more inclined to notice people's faces and expression and what this says about what they're thinking. One of the things that bothered me about the type descriptions was how it was either "literal and concrete" or "via intuition". I take things in through my senses and then interpret them. Sometimes it'll just be a "feeling" I get from a person and a place, but I think I could attribute that to tangible qualities- color, temperature, etc.- but if someone asks me to explain I won't have a lot to say or it won't make sense to them.
@ vocalist- aw why don't you want to be an infj?
 

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I spent some time on ISFJ and INFJ forums and I'm pretty sure I'm not an ISFJ.
On the INFJ forum, I related really well to everything except the posts about being insightful, knowing people better than they know themselves, knowing when someone is lying to them, finishing people's thoughts, etc. A lot of times I'm just oblivious. I think my earlier post was a bit misleading, or getting a "feeling" about something was the wrong way to describe it. ie. there's a very good chance that I attend the high school I do now because the hallways have red carpet and that made me feel warm, not because my intuition was picking up on a vibe. I remembered this one post in particular...

You know you're INFJ when you're in any room of people..and although may not be so aware of how you are acting, how you're sitting, standing, etc ...will be completely aware of everybody else:

conversations between all the people.. how they react to each other, what they say
strangers who listen to other people's conversations, and what are they thinking
people on the far side of the room who are annoyed with you because you are not acting 'properly'

.....all of this information, coming to you all at once! over and over... (x_x
You know you're an INFJ when you know all that is going on outside of you even if your eyes are inside a book or on the floor.
I just don't think I have anywhere close to that level of perception.
 
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What did I write that sounds ISFJish to you? (Sorry, I know you said you couldn't pinpoint it, but couldn't help asking :happy:) I'm just trying to get an idea.
 

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I'm just going to clarify some things I wrote that you addressed. Don't feel like you have to read it, it's just something I wanted to do. And thank you again for taking the time to do that- what you addressed were essentially the things make me think I'm an ISFJ.

Anyone can feel insecure, and INFJs especially so, but you said that you would be paranoid that you left something out. I could be wrong but I think that an INFJ would be less worried about having left something out and more worried about what someone will think of it. They may be more worried that they offended someone or effected someone in some way, or even possible that they may be judged.
I put that I would be worried about leaving something out because that would explain why I had finished whatever it was faster. In most cases, yes, I would be worried about what someone would think of it, if it offended anyone, and what the person observing it would think of me based on it.

Me too! Except I don't feel that being highly sensitive makes me "weak", just sensitive. It depends on how you define strength I guess. Does bottling up ones emotions (or just not having any) make them strong?
No, I don't think bottling up emotions makes someone strong. I would think that allowing everything to hurt you and being self pitying would make you- well maybe not weak, but vulnerable. Being strong would be seeing the truth in those statements and trying to improve yourself, or if there isn't any than disregarding them and not allowing them to affect how you think about yourself. I don't think that not having any emotions makes one strong.

I think INFJs are more likely to want to work alone or in small groups. The assembly line thing sounds ISFJ to me. I think it would make many INFJs shudder.
I would want to work alone or in a small group. What I was thinking of was that I like the idea of a group of friends, Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants style.
I wouldn't want to make a career out of an assembly line, but what is appealing to me about it is that everyone has a place and is working towards a goal. A lot of times I feel out of place or like I don't belong, so an assembly line would sort of guarantee that I have somewhere to be and something to do. An assembly line where I could be creative and use my imagination would be nice, if that even exists :)

Not usually confusing to intuitives. We know what it is - we live by it.
I was thinking of it in terms of something magical. After reading more about how INFJs described it, I believe I do understand it.

"Concrete and kind" isn't exactly an appealing alternative to "a world of hidden meanings and possibilities". What if they had worded it differently, such as "Beautiful, solid, stable, and kind." Would that make a difference?
Haha good point. However, no, I still prefer hidden meanings and possibilities :)

I guess this post might seem a bit defensive. But the thing is, I want to go into a career in psychology and international relations. I want to spend my life studying people and the ways in which we relate to each other, express ourselves, arrange ourselves into societies, form our cultures, and where that's going to take us in the future. I want to understand- and try to improve. Being an INFJ would mean that at least I have a natural aptitude towards the thing I want to do, which isn't something that happens very often.
 
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@Humaning,
Well I did some more research into cognitive functions, and Ni is more important to me. So, right :)

This part definitely makes you sound like an INFJ. The desire to help people, and to improve society according to our own personal vision, seems to be a hallmark of INFJs. For instance, I want to be a personal trainer for pregnant and post-partum women to help improve the health of that population, as well as giving them the "tools" they need to give their children a healthier start in life.
Yeah...I'm pretty sure I'm an INFJ, but on the border in some places like napoleon 227 suggested. And that sounds like a really cool job :)

Thank you so much to everyone who responded!
 
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