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No. I'm not suggesting anything. just offering you perspective. :) The only things we know about you are what you've told us. Only you can know you. You get to choose. :)
The more I analyze it, the more confused I get!
Cuz then I realize that I use ALL functions.
Even the functions ISTPs & ISFPs don't really use.
that's why I prefer to ask!


*Sometimes I'm in a situation that I see lots of possibilities (usually negative ones)! Or sometimes I can say the pros & cons of things, but can't decide which way to go or which one to choose! (Ne)

*Sometimes I remember past memories and get happy or sad about it. & I might even question my past and ask myself why something happened the way it happened! (Si)

*Sometimes I care about what ppl think of me and I prefer to stay quiet in order not to hurt someone or get hurt or hated! (Fe)

*Sometimes I think about things & analyze ppl or what they say in my head! (Ti)



But I think according to how you described ESFP & ISFP's grip (in bad situations), my inferior looks like Ni more than Te!



But when I look at my dom & aux functions & myself, I kinda think that I can't be a Se dom!
Yes, I can sometimes be sensual (into sensory activities related to 5 senses!), but I think I still have a function before that, which makes me an Introvert dominant person (most likely Fi or Ti dom).



So maybe, what I describe as grip of inferior function, is actually loop, not grip! Maybe it's Fi-Ni loop!...Or Ti-Ni loop!?!?
 

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The more I analyze it, the more confused I get!
Cuz then I realize that I use ALL functions.
Even the functions ISTPs & ISFPs don't really use.
that's why I prefer to ask!


*Sometimes I'm in a situation that I see lots of possibilities (usually negative ones)! Or sometimes I can say the pros & cons of things, but can't decide which way to go or which one to choose! (Ne)

*Sometimes I remember past memories and get happy or sad about it. & I might even question my past and ask myself why something happened the way it happened! (Si)

*Sometimes I care about what ppl think of me and I prefer to stay quiet in order not to hurt someone or get hurt or hated! (Fe)

*Sometimes I think about things & analyze ppl or what they say in my head! (Ti)



But I think according to how you described ESFP & ISFP's grip (in bad situations), my inferior looks like Ni more than Te!



But when I look at my dom & aux functions & myself, I kinda think that I can't be a Se dom!
Yes, I can sometimes be sensual (into sensory activities related to 5 senses!), but I think I still have a function before that, which makes me an Introvert dominant person (most likely Fi or Ti dom).



So maybe, what I describe as grip of inferior function, is actually loop, not grip! Maybe it's Fi-Ni loop!...Or Ti-Ni loop!?!?
The place to start is to ask yourself, not how you are in every situation, but how you are when you are most yourself. When you are able to just let go--take off your shoes, and kick back and be yourself? Do you prefer at that point, to be more introverted or extraverted? What makes you feel alive? Going and doing things? Being around people? Or being alone, maybe puttering or doing something with your hands, but not "out there"? A true extravert tends to associate more with other things than with what is going on inside the head. In fact, in my experience, forcing an extravert to introspect about themselves tends to stress them. Making them sit still, do nothing, not talk, not be active is stressful to them. An Introvert, on the other hand, prefers to turn inwardly first, and tends to need a time away from doing and focusing on other things. Doing things and being with other people are things we may enjoy, but they are not how an introvert would identify.

Once you figure that out, the next thing to ask yourself is how do you prefer to approach the outer world? Do you prefer to set things in order (not necessarily physical order, but mental order--structured), or do you prefer to take advantage of things as they happen? Those who tend to prefer order also tend to prefer to use words to do so, and not so much action. On the other hand, those who prefer to take advantage of things as they happen tend to prefer to be shown than told how to do things, and may prefer to do them themselves, but with guidance.

Again, the above items are how you _prefer_ to do things, when nobody is putting any pressure on you to act in a certain way. Ignore how you are with your parents, or rather, ask yourself if how you behave around them is simply because that's what they seem to expect or if you truly prefer this.

And for another tactic, ask yourself a couple other questions. How do you prefer to communicate, with concrete language, and more about concrete things? or abstractly, and about concepts and non-material things? What draws your attention or appeals more? Simile ("she's as cold as ice") or more metafore ("all the world's a stage")? Also, do you prefer others to speak literally, factually, specifically? Or more generally, categorically and theoretically and analogically? Which would be more of a drain or boring to you?

Second question, Do you prefer to use things like tools (literal tools, but also things like computer programs, or less obvious tools like forks, spoons, knives, or cars, or bicycles, or anything you manipulate) in ways that are strictly within their purpose? Or are you willing to improvise in your use of tools, and sometimes make others frustrated, upset or scared by how you utilize a tool? Does Bob Ross using house-painter's paintbrushes and spatulas fascinate you and give you ideas? or does it seems silly or somehow "wrong" to you?

I'll stop there. I've said enough for one post. :)
 

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Cuz then I realize that I use ALL functions.
That sounds as if you were a human being... eww.

Of course you do! Everyone uses all functions, otherwise Se users won't be able to remember anything and Ne users would be constantly hitting things and people because they would be unaware of their surroundings. Fi would never care what others think and Ti wouldn't be able to learn from external sources.

Which, I hope, you can see it's just stupid. The functions aren't this or that. They're a scale. You also use aspects of your shadow functions (the other four). MBTI just says which functions you have preference for and you use the most. For example, I often analyse situations, things around me and conversations and want to know how things are working. I also enjoy taking things apart. But I do this very rarely and it's a conscious process. Not something I do automatically but something I learned and developed. This is where I have trouble with maths. I find it very easy to memorise theory and equations but in problems, I'm terrible. I just cannot see the logic behind it and I don't care about details. My focus is the conclusion it brings me to, which I want to achieve asap. While Ti user focuses on the path to the solution and sees lots of teeny tiny details in it. I see the big picture. Because to me, details are just that, details, unimportant in the big picture unless they disturb it, then they need to be repaired. A Ti user would consider details to be more important than the big picture.
 

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The place to start is to ask yourself, not how you are in every situation, but how you are when you are most yourself. When you are able to just let go--take off your shoes, and kick back and be yourself? Do you prefer at that point, to be more introverted or extraverted? What makes you feel alive? Going and doing things? Being around people? Or being alone, maybe puttering or doing something with your hands, but not "out there"? A true extravert tends to associate more with other things than with what is going on inside the head. In fact, in my experience, forcing an extravert to introspect about themselves tends to stress them. Making them sit still, do nothing, not talk, not be active is stressful to them. An Introvert, on the other hand, prefers to turn inwardly first, and tends to need a time away from doing and focusing on other things. Doing things and being with other people are things we may enjoy, but they are not how an introvert would identify.
■I love sensory activities. Sometimes during my "me" time and at home. Sometimes with ppl close to me! & sometimes with ppl I want to get to know! But I need me time alot before and after that. Whenever I go on a trip we go out and I love it (I go crazy and get bossy and suggest that we go out and do something when they're lazy!) But when I come back home, I just grab my phone and sit in a corner and do my own stuffs! (I usually surf the web or take quizzes, I don't really like social media!).


Once you figure that out, the next thing to ask yourself is how do you prefer to approach the outer world? Do you prefer to set things in order (not necessarily physical order, but mental order--structured), or do you prefer to take advantage of things as they happen? Those who tend to prefer order also tend to prefer to use words to do so, and not so much action. On the other hand, those who prefer to take advantage of things as they happen tend to prefer to be shown than told how to do things, and may prefer to do them themselves, but with guidance.
■I sometimes like to put my thoughts in order and prefer to know the TRUTH! I don't like inner struggles. & sometimes I plan for my trips or the next day! But long term planning isn't for me! It just makes me anxious! So...in your example, I guess I'm the 2nd one! I wait to see what the new situation brings for me! And the last part is "totally" me! I'd like to know what they want from me (although sometimes I get creative about this part, but that rarely happens), & I prefer to learn things by a person's guide forst and then do it myself or with help. I can't just figure things out by myself!


Again, the above items are how you _prefer_ to do things, when nobody is putting any pressure on you to act in a certain way. Ignore how you are with your parents, or rather, ask yourself if how you behave around them is simply because that's what they seem to expect or if you truly prefer this..
■ this one is the most complicated part. cuz I like it both ways! I sometimes like to talk about real things and physical things (food, desserts, drinks, hobbies, other cultures, languages, nature, architecture, beautiful buildings, extreme sports, music, etc) & sometimes I like to talk about abstract things (freedom, equality, different religions, time, devotion, different values, etc), but if it gets too much, I might get depressed or anxious. What I dislike is talking about other ppl. I usually get bored if the conversation is about a person, what he did, what she said, how another person reacted, etc). Unless I know those ppl well and the topic is not too personal!
but in general I usually make friends/communicate with ppl through activities and doing things together. It's a huge ice breaker and then we have more things to talk about. That's why I have very few friends at university!

Though I prefer the conversation to be about general subjects but literal.
***oops!!! this was actually my answer to the question below!!!



And for another tactic, ask yourself a couple other questions. How do you prefer to communicate, with concrete language, and more about concrete things? or abstractly, and about concepts and non-material things? What draws your attention or appeals more? Simile ("she's as cold as ice") or more metafore ("all the world's a stage")? Also, do you prefer others to speak literally, factually, specifically? Or more generally, categorically and theoretically and analogically? Which would be more of a drain or boring to you?

Second question, Do you prefer to use things like tools (literal tools, but also things like computer programs, or less obvious tools like forks, spoons, knives, or cars, or bicycles, or anything you manipulate) in ways that are strictly within their purpose? Or are you willing to improvise in your use of tools, and sometimes make others frustrated, upset or scared by how you utilize a tool? Does Bob Ross using house-painter's paintbrushes and spatulas fascinate you and give you ideas? or does it seems silly or somehow "wrong" to you?
■I prefer to use things for within their purpose! specially when it comes to tecnology or mechanical things and machines! But when it comes to activities like cooking, designing & fashion, I sometimes get creative & do things that not all ppl do. Some days I cook dishes that might sound weird. Sometimes I wear something weird but fashionable (at home!), one day I decide to make my bedroom look like japanese bedrooms, etc.

& about Bob Ross, I'm not 100% his fan or follower, But I really adore him. How he paints makes me think painting is easy!


I'll stop there. I've said enough for one post. :)
 

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That sounds as if you were a human being... eww.

Of course you do! Everyone uses all functions, otherwise Se users won't be able to remember anything and Ne users would be constantly hitting things and people because they would be unaware of their surroundings. Fi would never care what others think and Ti wouldn't be able to learn from external sources.

Which, I hope, you can see it's just stupid. The functions aren't this or that. They're a scale. You also use aspects of your shadow functions (the other four). MBTI just says which functions you have preference for and you use the most. For example, I often analyse situations, things around me and conversations and want to know how things are working. I also enjoy taking things apart. But I do this very rarely and it's a conscious process. Not something I do automatically but something I learned and developed. This is where I have trouble with maths. I find it very easy to memorise theory and equations but in problems, I'm terrible. I just cannot see the logic behind it and I don't care about details. My focus is the conclusion it brings me to, which I want to achieve asap. While Ti user focuses on the path to the solution and sees lots of teeny tiny details in it. I see the big picture. Because to me, details are just that, details, unimportant in the big picture unless they disturb it, then they need to be repaired. A Ti user would consider details to be more important than the big picture.
This post makes me think I'm kind of Te!
I can memorize practical things or general things. But when it comes to details and scientific things, I get very forgetful !!!
 

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This post makes me think I'm kind of Te!
I can memorize practical things or general things. But when it comes to details and scientific things, I get very forgetful !!!
That sounds like Te but it could also be weak Ti. Definitely not a Ti-dom.
 

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Agreed. ;-) Nor Te dom or aux...
Indeed.

@itselly The more you say about yourself the more you seem like an ISFP. BTW, something I forgot to mention before, Fi-doms can often act like Fe users (wanting to make people around happy, wanting peace in a group, etc.) with the difference that Fe just do it for the sake of it while Fi-doms usually do it because they feel more comfortable that way and basically, due to a personal conviction that it is the right thing to do, that they should make people around them happy. Fe users just do it without thinking twice but Fi-doms have a reason for it.
 

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Indeed.

@itselly The more you say about yourself the more you seem like an ISFP. BTW, something I forgot to mention before, Fi-doms can often act like Fe users (wanting to make people around happy, wanting peace in a group, etc.) with the difference that Fe just do it for the sake of it while Fi-doms usually do it because they feel more comfortable that way and basically, due to a personal conviction that it is the right thing to do, that they should make people around them happy. Fe users just do it without thinking twice but Fi-doms have a reason for it.
Agreed on all the points above. :)

About that "having a reason" part. I've infuriated Fe types by asking "why" about their actions, and it seems that really irritates them to ask that. I've honestly never understood why...
 

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Who are you? Fi or Ti?

Ti: No one is more qualified to determine the truth than myself.
Fi: No one is more qualified to determine what is morally right than myself.
Ti has to rationalize. Fi has to reflect. Ti reflects on logic. Fi reflects on morality.

Ti-Fe types, such as INTP’s, are likely to believe a person must use reason to consider what the correct solution is. They are likely to believe that the solution based on reason is the morally just one. This goes for Fe-Ti (INFJ) to a much lesser degree since the “common good” is prioritized and the reason is secondary. Fe-Ti (INFJ) might use reason to advocate for the common good.

Te-Fi types, such as ISTJ’s and INTJ’s are likely to believe that a person can discern what is morally correct through objective facts and by reflecting upon individualized principles. They are likely to believe that the best solution is the solution represented by facts outside of them. Fi-Te (INFP’s) has this to a lesser degree. They are no less capable, but they prioritize the “rightness” discovered within themselves. They make appeals to facts in the outside world.
 

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Ti: No one is more qualified to determine the truth than myself.
Fi: No one is more qualified to determine what is morally right than myself.
Ti has to rationalize. Fi has to reflect. Ti reflects on logic. Fi reflects on morality.
This is how Ti and Fi behave, yes, but the users wouldn't say that unless they were narcissistic.
 

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Who are you? Fi or Ti?

Ti: No one is more qualified to determine the truth than myself.
Fi: No one is more qualified to determine what is morally right than myself.
Ti has to rationalize. Fi has to reflect. Ti reflects on logic. Fi reflects on morality.

Ti-Fe types, such as INTP’s, are likely to believe a person must use reason to consider what the correct solution is. They are likely to believe that the solution based on reason is the morally just one. This goes for Fe-Ti (INFJ) to a much lesser degree since the “common good” is prioritized and the reason is secondary. Fe-Ti (INFJ) might use reason to advocate for the common good.

Te-Fi types, such as ISTJ’s and INTJ’s are likely to believe that a person can discern what is morally correct through objective facts and by reflecting upon individualized principles. They are likely to believe that the best solution is the solution represented by facts outside of them. Fi-Te (INFP’s) has this to a lesser degree. They are no less capable, but they prioritize the “rightness” discovered within themselves. They make appeals to facts in the outside world.

Then I think I usually use Fi and Te functions. I need facts outside of me to make to make a good decision, but I might not do this ALL the time & sometimes my inner feelings or values can also effect the result.

But I sometimes use Ti too.
_____________Example:______________________________________________

For example I was talking to an INFP person I know in real life (she knows she's INFP), we were talking about family/relatives & respect.

She believed that we should respect family members (specially the ones older than us) and do whatever they say just because they are family and older. and even if they treat us bad or kind of abuse , we should respectc them and keep in touch with them and love them. And they always know what's best for us, no matter what!!!

But I told her "respect and love is something family/relatives earn. I respect/love them if they deserve it. If they do things that shows that I can love them, trust them & respect them. If they abuse me, or make me feel bad, then I need to reconsider things. Then I will either defend myelf or start hating them & I will cut them out of my life if I can. If they're toxic or abusive, I don't need to respect them as relatives just because they are relatives. & If they do something bad to me, I will not stay quiet about that. And I do not care about their age!!!


((Again, by "I don't have to respect them, they have to earn my respect!", I don't mean that people have to do whatever I say or be extremely Ideal to be respected by me. "Usually", If ppl treat me normal or in a good/fair way, I treat them the same way!
but If I see that they're toxic, then I either do something about it, or if I see that my direct action will make things worse (or if I'm afraid to talk), Then I cut them out of my life.))


& yes! I value my family. Sometimes I think I would even die for them (to save them)! But the ones I love and respect, are not just loved because they're family. I have cut my relationship with the toxic/abusive ones and I don't even miss them.
the ones I have are the ones I would really call family.
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See, I use a combination of them in my actions. But I guess I use Fi-Te alot more.
Am I right?
 

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Indeed.

@itselly The more you say about yourself the more you seem like an ISFP. BTW, something I forgot to mention before, Fi-doms can often act like Fe users (wanting to make people around happy, wanting peace in a group, etc.) with the difference that Fe just do it for the sake of it while Fi-doms usually do it because they feel more comfortable that way and basically, due to a personal conviction that it is the right thing to do, that they should make people around them happy. Fe users just do it without thinking twice but Fi-doms have a reason for it.

by far the best explanation for Fi/Fe difference (when it comes to actions!)
I really needed this!
 

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But I sometimes use Ti too.
_____________Example:_____________________________ _________________

For example I was talking to an INFP person I know in real life (she knows she's INFP), we were talking about family/relatives & respect.

She believed that we should respect family members (specially the ones older than us) and do whatever they say just because they are family and older. and even if they treat us bad or kind of abuse , we should respectc them and keep in touch with them and love them. And they always know what's best for us, no matter what!!!

But I told her "respect and love is something family/relatives earn. I respect/love them if they deserve it. If they do things that shows that I can love them, trust them & respect them. If they abuse me, or make me feel bad, then I need to reconsider things. Then I will either defend myelf or start hating them & I will cut them out of my life if I can. If they're toxic or abusive, I don't need to respect them as relatives just because they are relatives. & If they do something bad to me, I will not stay quiet about that. And I do not care about their age!!!


((Again, by "I don't have to respect them, they have to earn my respect!", I don't mean that people have to do whatever I say or be extremely Ideal to be respected by me. "Usually", If ppl treat me normal or in a good/fair way, I treat them the same way!
but If I see that they're toxic, then I either do something about it, or if I see that my direct action will make things worse (or if I'm afraid to talk), Then I cut them out of my life.))


& yes! I value my family. Sometimes I think I would even die for them (to save them)! But the ones I love and respect, are not just loved because they're family. I have cut my relationship with the toxic/abusive ones and I don't even miss them.
the ones I have are the ones I would really call family.
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See, I use a combination of them in my actions. But I guess I use Fi-Te alot more.
Am I right?
No I didn't see any Ti. Your beliefs come from a value system-Fi. Would you agree? I would say you are an ISFP over ISTP :)
 

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No I didn't see any Ti. Your beliefs come from a value system-Fi. Would you agree? I would say you are an ISFP over ISTP :)
Really? then thanks for mentioning that.
I always thought these kind of things are Ti before!

But just out of curiosity (&if you don't mind), could you plz tell me how I would act (like in my "family example") if I was a Ti & Fe user?
 

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Well, remember ISFP's first function is Fi. ISTP's first function is Ti and inferior function is Fe. The dominant Ti's feeling-Fe has different motivations and is subdued from being inferior.

Fe one big motivation= feeling/absorbing other's emotions. Empathizing tactic is to absorb the other person's raw emotions.
Fi one big motivation= following their own ethics. Empathizing tactic is to put themselves in other person's shoes.

An INTP-uses inferior Fe, I know has the ability to accommodate to how others are feeling since he has Fe. So if he see's he's being too forward then he changes his behavior to make the other person more comfortable. Why does he do this? Because he feels/absorbs that person's negative emotions and doesn't want them to feel like that anymore.

Ti= no one is more qualified to determine the truth than myself+ Fe= feeling/absorbing others emotions.

So if we apply Ti and Fe to your family example, we would probably see you say "That's not true" using your own internal logic and then absorb someone's emotions. So say if you go around a family member "that hates" you (though I'm assuming that's not true) you would literally absorb that person's hatred and then decide what you want to do.

Or when you had that conversation with friend you would say "That's not true" using your own internal logic and then absorb your friends emotions-let's say she's angry, so you feel her anger and decide how you want to respond.

So Fi and Fe can come to the same conclusions but the journey will be different. This is why determining which feeling function you use can be difficult.
 

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Well, remember ISFP's first function is Fi. ISTP's first function is Ti and inferior function is Fe. The dominant Ti's feeling-Fe has different motivations and is subdued from being inferior.

Fe one big motivation= feeling/absorbing other's emotions. Empathizing tactic is to absorb the other person's raw emotions.
Fi one big motivation= following their own ethics. Empathizing tactic is to put themselves in other person's shoes.

An INTP-uses inferior Fe, I know has the ability to accommodate to how others are feeling since he has Fe. So if he see's he's being too forward then he changes his behavior to make the other person more comfortable. Why does he do this? Because he feels/absorbs that person's negative emotions and doesn't want them to feel like that anymore.

Ti= no one is more qualified to determine the truth than myself+ Fe= feeling/absorbing others emotions.

So if we apply Ti and Fe to your family example, we would probably see you say "That's not true" using your own internal logic and then absorb someone's emotions. So say if you go around a family member "that hates" you (though I'm assuming that's not true) you would literally absorb that person's hatred and then decide what you want to do.

Or when you had that conversation with friend you would say "That's not true" using your own internal logic and then absorb your friends emotions-let's say she's angry, so you feel her anger and decide how you want to respond.

So Fi and Fe can come to the same conclusions but the journey will be different. This is why determining which feeling function you use can be difficult.
You make Fe sound as if it was some sort of magic that reads people's minds. Fe users sometimes do mimic feelings of other people but only when the other person makes those feelings obvious (feelings can be misunderstood or misinterpreted). They don't just feel the feelings of other people. Also, the way you describe Fe behaviour is not in general just very specific case. Fe users are as likely to accommodate others' feelings as they are to abuse/ignore them. This is very idealised Fe and sounds more like a very selfless Enneagram 2 Fe-dom.

@itselly As for Ti-Fe in your example, Ti-dom will always focus on the logic of the situation. "Is this logical?" is something a Ti-dom would be asking themselves. A Fe user would ask "How can I achieve harmony and make all sides happy?". A Ti-dom in your family situation would try to find a logical conclusion that satisfies all sides. They would take apart the situation, try to understand it and figure out what to do to achieve harmony. Sometimes, it can even be leaving the household. They would want to be liked by their family and want it to work. But they would focus on finding the logical solution to the problem. They would want to understand why things are the way they are and what they should do to make everything better.

Fi-Te on the other hand would ask themselves "What is the right thing to do in this situation?" "Do I have any evidence to confirm that?" "Am I making the right decision?"
 

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You make Fe sound as if it was some sort of magic that reads people's minds. Fe users sometimes do mimic feelings of other people but only when the other person makes those feelings obvious (feelings can be misunderstood or misinterpreted). They don't just feel the feelings of other people. Also, the way you describe Fe behaviour is not in general just very specific case. Fe users are as likely to accommodate others' feelings as they are to abuse/ignore them. This is very idealised Fe and sounds more like a very selfless Enneagram 2 Fe-dom.

@itselly As for Ti-Fe in your example, Ti-dom will always focus on the logic of the situation. "Is this logical?" is something a Ti-dom would be asking themselves. A Fe user would ask "How can I achieve harmony and make all sides happy?". A Ti-dom in your family situation would try to find a logical conclusion that satisfies all sides. They would take apart the situation, try to understand it and figure out what to do to achieve harmony. Sometimes, it can even be leaving the household. They would want to be liked by their family and want it to work. But they would focus on finding the logical solution to the problem. They would want to understand why things are the way they are and what they should do to make everything better.

Fi-Te on the other hand would ask themselves "What is the right thing to do in this situation?" "Do I have any evidence to confirm that?" "Am I making the right decision?"

Then I'm like the 2nd one! In these types of situations, I don't really think about "how to achieve harmony and make all sides happy"! Cuz if I dislike the person, it means they've done something to me, or they've done something that was strongly against my values.
so then I wouldn't be thinking about their happiness.
I would be thinking about MY happiness and the ppl I care about.

But in a different social situation & with different ppl, If I was kinda hurt by them (indirectly) & I was unsure of whether they like me or not (mixed signals) & I really cared about them, then I would also ask myself lots of "Whys" and "hows" before giving up!



What made me think I might be Fe is that sometimes ppl's feelings or actions can effect me and my mood.

If I go somewhere and meet a group of like-minded ppl who are warm, kind and nice to me, pay attention to me, and that we share interests, have similar lifestyles/values and our social habbits are alike,and they seem to like me, I would feel safe there, & although I'm an introvert and prefer being alone, I would be eager to meet them more and go do things with them!
Then after that meeting, I would go home and be happy about my day & those ppl.

Even if I go to a place with firm system but equality and respect, I would be fine.

BUT...If I go to a place with very few to no like-minded ppl, and realize that those ppl are good with eachother and inside their cliques, but treat me in a different way or cold way, keep secrets from me, aren't sincere, act uncomfy around me, and if we have nothing to talk about, have different ways of communicate, are too extrovert, other ppl get all the attention & no one seems to care about me, & I can't make friends there, I get depressed. I may try hard to read their face and body language. I may misinterpret them, get depressed/anxious. I would realize that I can't be myself around them. I would become quiet and mysterious around them. I would get heartbroken and I would go home with low energy and depression everyday.


Yeah, While I don't seem to need it, a person's positive feelings toward me can make me feel good, and the opposite of that could make me feel depressed.

I sometimes think about what others think about me. Sometimes I don't express myself, don't share my true opinion,don't complain or don't openly defend myself cuz I'm too shy to do that, & I don't wanna make them angry with me, and it's not because of them. It's because I don't want them to hurt me (physically or with their words).

& sometimes I can't say a firm "NO" and have to find passive aggressive ways to say No indirectly!
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It's not that all of these conditions happen to me everyday! I actually thought about all Fe related conditions of my life. I just had this question and had to ask it before officially typing myself ISFP.


■because, whenever I ask ppl this question, no matter what other things I say, they tell me that I I'm INFJ or ENFJ!!!
So it seems to be tricky!

@Prada , I'm so sorry that I ask too many questions! It's just that this part has made some ppl think I might be INFJ in the past!
I promise, this is the last question I ask!
I want to be sure about being ISFP!
 
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