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I've been noticing that many (if not a large majority) of generations Y and Z are, politically, isolationist libertarians/liberals. So now I'm interested as to what people in these generations consider themselves.

Just write down some of your core beliefs, I think it might be interesting to see what kind of variety we have.

As for me, I seem to be one of the few neoconservatives. I find myself agreeing with politicians like Dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain. I actually support the NSA, intervening in foreign conflicts to protect freedom, lower corporate tax rate, etc.
 

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I've been noticing that many (if not a large majority) of generations Y and Z are, politically, isolationist libertarians/liberals. So now I'm interested as to what people in these generations consider themselves.

Just write down some of your core beliefs, I think it might be interesting to see what kind of variety we have.

As for me, I seem to be one of the few neoconservatives. I find myself agreeing with politicians like Dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain. I actually support the NSA, intervening in foreign conflicts to protect freedom, lower corporate tax rate, etc.
Personally I grew up with two Baby Boomer Parents, they both identified (and still do) as Democrats. However they agree with Democrats mostly on economic views (welfare, lower taxes on the poor, minimum wage,etc.) while they are middle ground in social views. They believe that guns should be highly regulated, that the War on Drugs should end, & Women's/Minorities Rights; but they do not agree with Democrats on issues like Same-Sex marriage and abortion.


My 3 older siblings (who are all Gen Yers) are also liberals but they are more radical about their beliefs than our parents.


Me personally I identify with Liberterianism. Over the years I used to identify with the Democratic Party & I used to like President Obama however around late 2012/early 2013 I started to notice that his polices were actually very similar to Bush (which I personally disliked). Obama promised to get us out of the War on Terror, but he actually continued it and while we were able to get out of Iraq we are now engaged with a new threat being ISIS.


Plus he promised to end the NSA spying program (which I am against) but he actually continued it and it has gotten even bigger. Plus his views on Gun rights I am not for, I believe in the Right to Bear arms and I do not believe in banning certain guns or putting higher restrictions.


Plus his controversial laws he's enacted like Obamacare (personally I am not for it but I do not hate it either) which has literally put us in one of the worst government shutdowns in decades. On top of that most recently with the issues on race and Blacks Vs. Cops and himself getting his opinions into these cases just creates more division in this country.


Now I personally do not like Obama (though I still think he's better than Bush but not by much) but there are a few things I do like about him that I also identify with as well. His social view in general I am for, Women's rights (though recently there has been a huge wave of extreme feminism especially in the GamerGate Movement. This side of feminism I do not support especially people like Anita Sarkessian), rights for minorities (however I personally think the current leadership of Civil Rights is very poor and these people especially guys like Al Sharpton do not actually solve the issue but just create destruction that makes the movement look terrible), Ending the War on Drugs (& making pot legal!), LGBT Rights, scientific research, stem cell research, enviromental issues; stuff like that. However there are a few conservative issues I agree with such as the deregulation of guns, the importance of religion and protecting religious freedom (though not like how states like Indiana are handling it), and closing off our borders (however I do not believe in deporting any current illegals, I just believe in preventing anymore from coming into our country).


In economic issues I see myself as more conservative like decreasing or getting rid of the welfare system, decreasing government size, spending less, decrease social security (because lets be real its not going to be there when we retire so I feel we should all just save our own money for retirement), lower taxes on the rich, support on small businesses not corporations; stuff like that. I also believe that we should audit or in the worst case scenario destroy the Federal Reserve.

These are just my political opinions though. I think most people our age would identify with the Democratic Party, but it seems like many Millennials are waking up and are now in support for the Liberterian Party
 

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Gen Y is starting to gain some political power. What I find most interesting is that the issues Gen Y is pushing largely involve left-libertarianism: nationally, same-sex marriage and marijuana legalization; locally, increased investment in bike transportation, economic localization, livability issues and that kind of shit.

Gen Y'ers tend not to care too much about foreign policy issues it seems, and when they do favor a far greater degree of isolationism than Boomers ever did. I'd say the main planks the generation presents are:

- social liberty
- local focus > national focus
- a greater degree of fiscal conservatism than their predecessors

At a certain level Gen Y really is alienated from Boomer politics; their concerns not only aren't the same, they're flat-out antithetical to organizations e.g. Focus on the Family's.
 
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I've been noticing that many (if not a large majority) of generations Y and Z are, politically, isolationist libertarians/liberals. So now I'm interested as to what people in these generations consider themselves.

Just write down some of your core beliefs, I think it might be interesting to see what kind of variety we have.

As for me, I seem to be one of the few neoconservatives. I find myself agreeing with politicians like Dick Cheney, Lindsey Graham, and John McCain. I actually support the NSA, intervening in foreign conflicts to protect freedom, lower corporate tax rate, etc.
I tend to be a social democrat above all else. While I'm not a communist, I - with the education and research I've had thus far - believe that a free market system is still the most effective economically, I think that it should include social programs (like healthcare, welfare, education, etc.) and government intervention policies (such as the practice of Keynesian economics). That's where I stand economically, and I tend to agree on the positions that social democrats tend to hold.

I can always expand more if you're interested.
 

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I have no side really when it comes to politics, When I was growing up I was a raised by a Baby Boomer parent(born in 51') who had Democratic ideals, He's still watches MSNBC and CNN on a daily basis and never watches Fox News. As for me thanks to people on Youtube who I listen to, along with my own personal experiences I believe that Democrats are not the good guys nor are they the bad guys and the same goes for the Republicans. I often believe that Politics are somewhat pointless considering the constant bitching from all three parties, and how I believe there will never be a perfect economy for anyone regardless on what political side you stand by. But reality of this all is that life's not perfect. It's just too bad people can't see that because of huge idealism.
 

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I have no side really when it comes to politics, When I was growing up I was a raised by a Baby Boomer parent(born in 51') who had Democratic ideals, He's still watches MSNBC and CNN on a daily basis and never watches Fox News. As for me thanks to people on Youtube who I listen to, along with my own personal experiences I believe that Democrats are not the good guys nor are they the bad guys and the same goes for the Republicans. I often believe that Politics are somewhat pointless considering the constant bitching from all three parties, and how I believe there will never be a perfect economy for anyone regardless on what political side you stand by. But reality of this all is that life's not perfect. It's just too bad people can't see that because of huge idealism.
I was going say something similar. I've had Nationalistic, tribalistic tendencies, and I still hold the ideals, but I wouldn't invest in them. Now with all aside the best for anyone to do is to argue *against* more government, thus I'm locked in anti democractic, anarchist mode. Really can't stand hearing the mythological utopia liberals and socialists sing about; the social experiments have failed.
 

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I'm definitely left-wing - against censorship and excessive piracy or surveillance measures, support same sex marriage, marijuana legalization, etc. I strongly feel that one's sexual and reproductive practices (abortion included in this) should be decided by oneself and all others immediately concerned, not by a group of people who more than likely bullshat their way to where they are (shoutout almost any government anywhere). I guess I fit in more the Libertarian than Liberal label.

That being said, I have my reservations about the feminist movement in Western countries. As someone that is not only black raised in a white-majority country (Ireland) and raised at home almost exclusively by women, needless to say I am completely against oppression. However I'm also against people who milk the oppression card to make their own lives easier rather than the greater good of the group they represent, and despite the responses I know I'll get about radical feminists not being representative of the whole group (which I acknowledge) I still feel that if there isn't some sort of regulation or something that will prevent feminism from becoming "female supremacy" shit will eventually fuck up. Maybe not now, but it seems almost inevitable for a group that is called "feminism" that claims to also be concerned about male issues. If it evolves to humanism or egalitarianism, then I think we would have much much less to worry about.
 

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Left-Libertarian, or at least, I think I am, hahaha.

Economically, I'm probably moderate. I don't trust market forces like a pure tea-party/Ron Paul type would, but I also see a lot of artificially large industries that don't need to be propped up by the government (big agriculture, massively large prison population). Unions are great in places where they are needed. That's not every situation.

Morally, libertarian. Whatever people want to do to themselves, that isn't hurting other people: enjoy.

Foreign policy: I have no freaking idea anymore. Clearly the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" policy has backfired over and over again. We shouldn't be the working version of the UN. However, isolationism is scary too. It wouldn't lead to other world powers isolating themselves either, so we'd have to be prepared for a larger Russian or China sphere of influence.
 

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center left libertarianism. I have fascist level Christian Zionist parents who are adamant Republicans, and that goes for censorship, fining gay sex, whatever. Due to upbringing issues I can never except progressive economics, but my social values are very libertarian-anarachist.

That out of the picture, I'm kind of typical for my gen in the sense that I have large institutions, and as my Taoist religion recommends, I favor lots and lots of small communities making choices over centeralized government. You know, confederacy over federalism.

When I make fun off the far left, it's generally due to them being push overs and overly sensitive about shit. That's when I act like a dick on purpose because my moral values are very much in line with capitalism. I believe in a dog eat dog darwinist world where the strong prevail, and while I admit the rich are usually less personally strong than the poor and that in capitalist systems the poor are slaves to the rich, that kind of chain of command has always been around, even if it is non-egalitarian. Only pussies complain about that kind of shit.
 

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I'm seeing a trend here in this thread that seems to be conflating diplomacy and anti-imperialism with isolationism. To truly be isolationist would mean one favored protectionist policies regarding trade (as opposed to free trade) and scaling back or abolishing international agreements in general. As an anti-imperialist myself I definitely think we shouldn't be in the business of policing the world, but at the same time I support *more* free trade and I think we should honor international agreements and respect the sovereignty of other nation-states.

As Chris Lyspooner famously observed: "Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come on your property and break your windows."
 

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^^ here, this song says it well! Left libertarian.

 

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I'm seeing a trend here in this thread that seems to be conflating diplomacy and anti-imperialism with isolationism. To truly be isolationist would mean one favored protectionist policies regarding trade (as opposed to free trade) and scaling back or abolishing international agreements in general. As an anti-imperialist myself I definitely think we shouldn't be in the business of policing the world, but at the same time I support *more* free trade and I think we should honor international agreements and respect the sovereignty of other nation-states.

As Chris Lyspooner famously observed: "Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come on your property and break your windows."
Thank God Ron Paul never won a national election
 

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Libertarian, but fairly mild (like 60/70 percent on the test).
 

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Pro-choice, pro.. gays should marry..?

Health and higher education should be considered a right, not an privilege. And that we spend way too much on military budget. (I will always stand behind troops, but not how we spend money.)

I'm personally willing to pay a few extra cents to reform these.


In general, I find it incredibly hard to get into politics, but I try. I'm really into Bernie Sanders but I know that our two party system will make it unlikely.
 

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For my own sake, I'll keep it short. I tend to be socially liberal, but I don't tolerate arguments/ideas based solely on an appeal to emotion. From the information I've collected, there is a lot of evidence that points to the massive corporate control of the media and government, and as such, I do not support anything that is part of the two party system. I'll leave off with an excerpt from a writing assignment I recently completed.

They believe they are righteous and unconditionally perfect, completely infallible and open-minded, progressive and free-willed, bound by nothing or no one and fighting for “true” change. Generation after generation, the cycle repeats with the new generation that strives to, at first, be more intelligent than the generation that preceded it and, later, strives to be wiser than the generation that succeeds it. As I sit in this wasteland, I remember what happened. “How could our parents have possibly thought that was right?” they would ask. “Why did our parents use this or do that?” they would ask. “What barbarians. No wonder life sucks.” They tried to implement what they though was change. Things had looked promising for a while. Later in life, they began expressing contempt for the new generation that succeeded them, for change became dangerous for the positions that they occupied. Once on the offensive, they changed to the defensive. Such had always been an integral part of government, pushing to fix something that was the prior generation’s fault; however, people tended to support other people or ideas that were completely against their interests as a whole, yet only aligned with one or two weak and fallacious ideals they held. This cycle had seen very little change over time, but several technological breakthroughs had put this system on an unsustainable course. The entropy became too much for the system to handle. It got to the point of past traditions clashing with future technologies at an unprecedentedly fast rate to create a violent and miserable state of the world.
 

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I really can't say I know enough about all the aspects of politics (cough economics cough) to make a decision on a political party, or maybe that's just because no matter what you choose, someone will think you're mentally challenged for siding with that party. So I stick to the political subjects I do know and care about and political tests have aligned me with The Green Party. Education, environment, legalize the gay, legalize the grass, pro-choice, world peace, yada yada insert hippie propaganda here.
 

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I don't really tie myself to only one party/side and come out as a moderate with a lot of my beliefs. I agree with the Democrats on some things, and Republicans on others. This comes from me taking things on a case by case basis and the fact that I don't really follow politics all that much.

Took the test from the front page and got this:
http://www.isidewith.com/results-map/Green+Party%3A25x55;Democrats%3A26x62;Republicans%3A74x51;Constitution+Party%3A69x37;Socialist%3A19x81;Libertarians%3A52x25;You%3A42x60.jpg
https://www.isidewith.com/results-image/905020605.jpg
Odd, never would have pegged my beliefs as primarily being near the Green Party...
 
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