[tefresquito]

Hi! At this point after lots and lots of thought, I have come to the conclusion that I'm a Se dom but problem is, I certainly do not relate to the Ni inferior.
I can tell people's intentions, certain hidden meanings, can recognize patterns with a lot of ease and can also tell (not a 100% accurately but can) people's possible next moves and where things probably are headed.
I'm not an Ni dom for sure since my accuracy is far from the accuracy of a Ni dom or aux but it's also very far away from a Ni inf.

Just wanted to know y'all's opinion on this. Does this seem possible?? Is there any explanation for this or am I simply mistyped?

 

[secondpassing]

It could be that you're just smart.

"Intuition" in MBTI is not intuition as normally used in the English language. Being an intuitive type is supposed to say something about your tendency to notice the intangible, not your ability.

 

[Antiparticle]

Hi! At this point after lots and lots of thought, I have come to the conclusion that I'm a Se dom but problem is, I certainly do not relate to the Ni inferior.
I can tell people's intentions, certain hidden meanings, can recognize patterns with a lot of ease and can also tell (not a 100% accurately but can) people's possible next moves and where things probably are headed.
I'm not an Ni dom for sure since my accuracy is far from the accuracy of a Ni dom or aux but it's also very far away from a Ni inf.

Just wanted to know y'all's opinion on this. Does this seem possible?? Is there any explanation for this or am I simply mistyped?

What kind of patterns, hidden intentions and next moves? It could be Se, both are perceiving functions.

 

[ENTJudgement]

Hi! At this point after lots and lots of thought, I have come to the conclusion that I'm a Se dom but problem is, I certainly do not relate to the Ni inferior.
I can tell people's intentions, certain hidden meanings, can recognize patterns with a lot of ease and can also tell (not a 100% accurately but can) people's possible next moves and where things probably are headed.
I'm not an Ni dom for sure since my accuracy is far from the accuracy of a Ni dom or aux but it's also very far away from a Ni inf.

Just wanted to know y'all's opinion on this. Does this seem possible?? Is there any explanation for this or am I simply mistyped?

Not really possible, otherwise anyone can just move any cognitive function order like as an ENTJ I could just go Te Fi Se Ni or w/e order I want, defeats the entire purpose of MBTI

 

[intranst]

I mean, my Te is pretty fire. Just ask @ENTJudgement

 

[ENTJudgement]

I mean, my Te is pretty fire. Just ask @ENTJudgement

To me ur more like Si Ne Te Fi

O shit thats basically a mini ESTJ/ISTJ xD

 

[intranst]

To me ur more like Si Ne Te Fi

O shit thats basically a mini ESTJ/ISTJ xD

Hmm interesting.. sips coffee

 

[ENTJudgement]

Hmm interesting.. sips coffee

Ur Si so stronk, I feel like u could die if u were stuck being uncomfortable

 

[DOGSOUP]

It really depends. What is hidden to S isn't hidden to N and the other way around.

I.e. Jung's patient who was what we would call a Ni dom, had really profound insight into her own psychological state while she lived in a brothel without realizing it.
The Se doms we have on this forum seem know their business and they know what people are about, maybe more than some other types (IMHO).

 

[intranst]

Ur Si so stronk, I feel like u could die if u were stuck being uncomfortable

Workin on it lol

 

[Allostasis]

Hi! At this point after lots and lots of thought, I have come to the conclusion that I'm a Se dom but problem is, I certainly do not relate to the Ni inferior.
I can tell people's intentions, certain hidden meanings, can recognize patterns with a lot of ease and can also tell (not a 100% accurately but can) people's possible next moves and where things probably are headed.
I'm not an Ni dom for sure since my accuracy is far from the accuracy of a Ni dom or aux but it's also very far away from a Ni inf.

Just wanted to know y'all's opinion on this. Does this seem possible?? Is there any explanation for this or am I simply mistyped?

Either your first premise is invalid and you are not Se dom, or you, like me at some point, hit the limits of the typology that you are using. I had a similar problem of being some kind of untypable cognitive mutant.

In the latter case, I suggest reading Jung, since his typology is more comprehensive than any derivative.

 

[shameless]

Eh I basically demonstrate low Ni all the time even here.

BUT I do still have it low.

I hate that expression “Just trust your intuition”

Eh for me that just means making a wrong assumption %50 of the time. .

It actually is what gives me anxiety. And can also make me look like a brute. And further more look paranoid.

Example of an estp using Ni like shit: The other day at work I went out for a cigarette. I come back to the office I share with two other people who do not smoke cigs. One of them is actually past the age of retirement and a great grandma still working full time so I gave up my spot to her. I feel bad taking the comfy chair from a 65 yr old. So anyways I sit down and I am working and all of a sudden she speaks to the other one about how much it smells like smoke. I am just returning from a cigarette so I draw the conclusion this is directed to me.

So like a brute I say to her sorry you are stuck with a smoker when we get our other office spaces I can talk to the owner about making sure non smokers have a separate space to not suffer the smell, and smokers do not have to suffer with passive aggressive bullshit. I then say would you like for me to go sit on the hard chair at the plastic lunch table all day. Lol she is like oh no I was self deprecating making fun of myself because I started smoking again and I can smell it on my sweatshirt. Me stand there and is like eh oh. And that is a real mistake that myself ESTP & ESFPs I know make often. Ya know because of high Se and low Ni.

I will say though my Ni is higher with scheduling and investigating at work. But not because my Ni is high. It is simply because I have enough experience with Se, Ti in scheduling and investigating that my Ti does usually lead me to the right conclusion and is filtered better with my lower Ni

Id just be careful. Faulty use of Ni in ANY of the positions can look like a know it all know nothing. Even Ni dom and aux can be wrong or distort perception if lead by Ni wrong even if they are usually better at it.

I just solved a case at work and while I did have an accurate Ni hunch it was my Se and Ti that produced the results of solving and getting a full developed conclusion with evidence

 

[tefresquito]

What kind of patterns, hidden intentions and next moves? It could be Se, both are perceiving functions.

Patterns I notice tend to be around society, where a certain societal problem starts and its consequences and what it ends up causing indirectly, things like that, or how 2 problems might be related even though not obvious at first sight. Patterns in people, like "I've met this type of person before" and realize quite quickly.
Hidden intentions and next moves pretty much just people's bad intentions and moves just what they're more likely to do in certain situation, like "I know they're gonna lie to me about this, then try to fool me to take advantage of me" and ends up happening, usually.
Perhaps indeed some of this comes from Se-Ti and I'm confusing it with Ni lol, idrk

 

[Antiparticle]

Patterns I notice tend to be around society, where a certain societal problem starts and its consequences and what it ends up causing indirectly, things like that, or how 2 problems might be related even though not obvious at first sight. Patterns in people, like "I've met this type of person before" and realize quite quickly.
Hidden intentions and next moves pretty much just people's bad intentions and moves just what they're more likely to do in certain situation, like "I know they're gonna lie to me about this, then try to fool me to take advantage of me" and ends up happening, usually.
Perhaps indeed some of this comes from Se-Ti and I'm confusing it with Ni lol, idrk

Ni likes to operate in abstract spaces, creating concepts sometimes from vaccum (although this is dominant Ni). I think you would know if you lead with Ni.

Se is also a complex perceiving function, Se doms could probably give deep insights on how it works, similar in some ways to Ni. The main difference is maybe operating from already seen/existing (Se) vs appearing from nowhere (Ni). But I am not sure 😅 Se/Ni is 100% opposite of my thinking axis (Ni/Se).

 

[tefresquito]

Either your first premise is invalid and you are not Se dom, or you, like me at some point, hit the limits of the typology that you are using. I had a similar problem of being some kind of untypable cognitive mutant.

In the latter case, I suggest reading Jung, since his typology is more comprehensive than any derivative.

Yeah, I'm kinda having the second one lol, I've noticed traces of what seems like a bit of Ne and Si as well and some people too while trying to type me which confuses them, they always go for Se dom regardless but they get a bit lost with that.
Thanks for the suggestion ^^

 

[Antiparticle]

Hi! At this point after lots and lots of thought, I have come to the conclusion that I'm a Se dom but problem is, I certainly do not relate to the Ni inferior.
I can tell people's intentions, certain hidden meanings, can recognize patterns with a lot of ease and can also tell (not a 100% accurately but can) people's possible next moves and where things probably are headed.
I'm not an Ni dom for sure since my accuracy is far from the accuracy of a Ni dom or aux but it's also very far away from a Ni inf.

Just wanted to know y'all's opinion on this. Does this seem possible?? Is there any explanation for this or am I simply mistyped?

Are you ESTP?

 

[tefresquito]

Ni likes to operate in abstract spaces, creating concepts sometimes from vaccum (although this is dominant Ni). I think you would know if you lead with Ni.

Se is also a complex perceiving function, Se doms could probably give deep insights on how it works, similar in some ways to Ni. The main difference is maybe operating from already seen/existing (Se) vs appearing from nowhere (Ni). But I am not sure 😅 Se/Ni is 100% opposite of my thinking axis (Ni/Se).

That'd make sense to me, I don't operate so much from appearing out of nowhere but from observation, correlation and memory usually. Thanks!

 

[ENTJudgement]

Example of an estp using Ni like shit: The other day at work I went out for a cigarette. I come back to the office I share with two other people who do not smoke cigs. One of them is actually past the age of retirement and a great grandma still working full time so I gave up my spot to her. I feel bad taking the comfy chair from a 65 yr old. So anyways I sit down and I am working and all of a sudden she speaks to the other one about how much it smells like smoke. I am just returning from a cigarette so I draw the conclusion this is directed to me.

So like a brute I say to her sorry you are stuck with a smoker when we get our other office spaces I can talk to the owner about making sure non smokers have a separate space to not suffer the smell, and smokers do not have to suffer with passive aggressive bullshit. I then say would you like for me to go sit on the hard chair at the plastic lunch table all day. Lol she is like oh no I was self deprecating making fun of myself because I started smoking again and I can smell it on my sweatshirt. Me stand there and is like eh oh. And that is a real mistake that myself ESTP & ESFPs I know make often. Ya know because of high Se and low Ni.

Lmao, I would say most people would make that same assumption u made, also u displayed pretty good Fe coz you tried to do something to help with your "bruteness" a lower Fe user would be like I don't see a company policy that says I can't smell like smoke so I'm not gonna care and do nothing about it.

I would of made the exact same assumption in your shoes.

 

[JennyJukes]

Eh I basically demonstrate low Ni all the time even here.

BUT I do still have it low.

I hate that expression “Just trust your intuition”

Eh for me that just means making a wrong assumption %50 of the time. .

It actually is what gives me anxiety. And can also make me look like a brute. And further more look paranoid.

Example of an estp using Ni like shit: The other day at work I went out for a cigarette. I come back to the office I share with two other people who do not smoke cigs. One of them is actually past the age of retirement and a great grandma still working full time so I gave up my spot to her. I feel bad taking the comfy chair from a 65 yr old. So anyways I sit down and I am working and all of a sudden she speaks to the other one about how much it smells like smoke. I am just returning from a cigarette so I draw the conclusion this is directed to me.

So like a brute I say to her sorry you are stuck with a smoker when we get our other office spaces I can talk to the owner about making sure non smokers have a separate space to not suffer the smell, and smokers do not have to suffer with passive aggressive bullshit. I then say would you like for me to go sit on the hard chair at the plastic lunch table all day. Lol she is like oh no I was self deprecating making fun of myself because I started smoking again and I can smell it on my sweatshirt. Me stand there and is like eh oh. And that is a real mistake that myself ESTP & ESFPs I know make often. Ya know because of high Se and low Ni.

I will say though my Ni is higher with scheduling and investigating at work. But not because my Ni is high. It is simply because I have enough experience with Se, Ti in scheduling and investigating that my Ti does usually lead me to the right conclusion and is filtered better with my lower Ni

Id just be careful. Faulty use of Ni in ANY of the positions can look like a know it all know nothing. Even Ni dom and aux can be wrong or distort perception if lead by Ni wrong even if they are usually better at it.

I just solved a case at work and while I did have an accurate Ni hunch it was my Se and Ti that produced the results of solving and getting a full developed conclusion with evidence

Honestly it sounds like it was directed to you and she tried to cover it up. I think Se doms are super observant and call out what is. I haven't really came across an Se dom that over-reacted or over assumed but I'm sure it happens. Maybe I just have a blind spot with ESTPs since I love them so much. I do think it's a good thing though to soften the assumption in case you are wrong, and so you can come to some sort of resolution instead of the other person becoming defensive or lying.

I used to smoke in high school and this dude next to me loudly proclaimed how I smelled of cigarettes when he smelled like a farm animal. I don't like the smell of stale smoke but it disappears/you get used to it quite quickly whereas people with BO just smell all the time. Most my coworkers in care smoked but they always washed their hands, chewed gum etc when they came back in, vs this woman that absolutely reeked of BO. I know which I'd rather be around.