[SuperunknownVortex]

Hello!

The Enneagram and one's Enneatype aims to explain a person's motivation, but the individual's behavior varies from person to person? For example, an 'intellectual' at a university can nevertheless be considered an E8 and a solider can be considered a E9 if he or she was typed correctly?

I was just curious.

 

[jbking]

Hhhhmmm.....

The Enneagram and one's Enneatype aims to explain a person's motivation, but the individual's behavior varies from person to person? For example, an 'intellectual' at a university can nevertheless be considered an E8 and a solider can be considered a E9 if he or she was typed correctly?

The last question carries a big of a "Huh?" to my mind as if they are typed correctly than that is their type.

As for the initial question, there is more than just motivation as there are healthy and unhealthy levels within each type and so unlocking the power of the Enneagram comes in part from understanding why something may be important but also to recognize what tendencies could go along with it.

I'm a E1w2, so I can be a perfectionist at times and also try to help people as that is how my two types blend into each other. My occupation isn't affected by my type but there can be advantages that this type can bring to being a web developer certainly. Somehow I feel like I'm missing part of the question as part of the Enneagram is to identify certain patterns and why they exist and each is important here to my mind.

 

[SuperunknownVortex]

As for the initial question, there is more than just motivation as there are healthy and unhealthy levels within each type and so unlocking the power of the Enneagram comes in part from understanding why something may be important but also to recognize what tendencies could go along with it..

This does make sense, but even then if would seem like as one becomes more healthier or unhealthier their behaviors will be driven by the Enneatype's basic desire, fear and motivations regardless of how the behaviors appear to themselves or others. For example, being critical when speaking to others can be like a E1 being a 'judgmental' or 'perfectionist', E6 being 'distrustful' or 'insecure', or E8 being 'aggressive' and 'controlling'. The act of being critical seems to be nevertheless be motivated by the Enneatype's basic desire, fear and motivations, which, in itself, seem vague in descriptions I read.

 

[jbking]

Yes and no....

As an E1, I can in times of stress go into an E4 while in the opposite I can elevate myself into that of an E7. This means that there is a chance for me to move throughout a cycle as if one goes against the arrows in the diagram on the PerC page, a 1 goes to 7 that then goes to 5, over to 8, down to 2, over to 4 and back up to 1. Note that 3,6, and 9 have their own cycle which is different. This is something else to get out of the Enneagram to my mind.

 

[Just_Some_Guy]

but the individual's behavior varies from person to person? For example, an 'intellectual' at a university can nevertheless be considered an E8 and a solider can be considered a E9 if he or she was typed correctly?

These motivations vary in context. An 8 can be a solider, teacher, hobo, etc. Also, as jbking stated, the degrees of one's psychological health influences this greatly. As a 6, when I disintegrate into 3, I become a stubborn, self-righteous asshole, but when I integrate to 9, I become altruistic and self-sacrificing.

Concerning being critical, every type can do that. The question is "how" and "why" they are critical.