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I'm so evil :proud:

Ok, so, I was thinking about something, I can't remember what it was -- ANYWAYS!

By some misguided train of thought, I thought of a question to ask our population of INTJ, and I think that maybe you guys would be surprised by the difference in individual answers.

I will not be commenting on any of your responses. I won't be arguing any "right" or "wrong" answer to this question, I'm just gonna watch how you guys come up with your answers and see how each of your answers influence the other's.

Ok... are you ready?

The question is:

Does the world fit in a box?

*** The meaning of this question is open-ended. I'm not asking any one specific meaning. I'm curious about how each of you will interpret the question, so just go with the first response that comes to mind when you hear the question. Whatever the first meaning you think that question is -- that's what I want you to answer.
 

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My first response would be that it would depend on what size of box, but that's not a very inteligent answer. If we see what quantum physics has to say about this...Well...You could say that in this universe the world fits in a box, but in the universe next door, it does not. Or, since we are each living in our own little multiverse, my world might not fit into a box, but the next persons might fit into one very nicely. Reality is realitive.
 

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Damn. That's a hard question. Depends on your definition of "world", "box" and "fit". I mean, for some, fit can be very snugly. Fit can be about to explode. Fit can simply mean not spilling out. And box. Can that be metaphysical? And what kind of world? etc etc.
 

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The world can be measured by arbitrary means, but must come to accordance for an integrable accumulation of persons; society. The world can be perceived in numerous perspectives, but an ultimate answer, must be solid, 'boxed' or 'stable'.

The agreement can be narrow-minded and rigid, but unexplored perceptions are behind open doors, and they are available to other minds. Alternative, but critical thinking can be performed.
 

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That's a really good question to ask INTJ's.

Personally I don't think it does, but people have the ability to conceptualize 'it' through perception. I often "automatically" try to box things (temporarily!). The boxes are able to shift, expand or narrow down. There can be small boxes belonging in bigger boxes. It's probably one of those ways of how I make sense to the world(s) I see in my head. I suppose it is structuring. Remember though, the possibilities are broad or can be "renewed". But the elements to work with are out there to absorb. :D
 

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Studying, are we, Tkae?

If it were a big enough box, yes. Resources would be spread thin from the attempt, and the idea of putting the world in a box would kill us all, but it's certainly a possibility.

'You're unique, just like everybody else'. Our individual attitudes form to a collective whole whether we want them to or not, so yes, the world is a 'box' when it comes to attitudes on a larger scale.

I second what InvisibleJim said, absolutely.
 

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At first I took the question literally, but after reading the posts, I say yes. The world can be put into boxes, but it would be pointless because the world changes so quickly. A web would be a better organization system because of the relationships between things.
 

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I don't think the question should be "Does the world fit inside of a box?" as much as "Should the world fit inside of a box?" Yes, if you put your world inside of a box it will fit. The world will fill up the box. It doesn't matter how small or large the box is. If you put it in there it will fit. If the box is too small or is never exchanged for a larger box, the world cannot expand. Still though, the box is what shapes the direction the world will grow in. Without the box, you put growth into the hands of chaos. So, there is a time for removing the box and expanding your world, and a time for putting the most accurate box you can muster around the world and making a decision.

There was a quote by Eisenhower (INTJ) I was going to post here but I couldn't find It. I will paraphrase. "Weigh every option, consider every fear, then once you've come to a decision, is the time to forget all those fears and take action."
 

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World - noun

  • the earth or globe, considered as a planet.
  • (often initial capital letter
    ) a particular division of the earth: the Western world.
  • the earth or a part of it, with its inhabitants, affairs, etc., during a particular period: the ancient world.
Box - noun


  • a container, case, or receptacle, usually rectangular, of wood, metal, cardboard, etc., and often with a lid or removable cover.
  • the quantity contained in a box: She bought a box of candy as a gift.
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I am sticking with my classical objective metaphysics and saying yes there is definitely a world and it can certainly be put into a box. Whether we can create this box, encompass this world, or even fully understand the two is another matter.
 

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No and yes. Define "world" and define "box", please.
Tkae said:
*** The meaning of this question is open-ended. I'm not asking any one specific meaning. I'm curious about how each of you will interpret the question, so just go with the first response that comes to mind when you hear the question. Whatever the first meaning you think that question is -- that's what I want you to answer.
That's as close to defining it as I'm going to get :bored:
 

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I believe the world would fit into a box, if enough things are marganalized and suppressed enough. The world has become far to complex to be able to categorize and compartmentalize, in my opinion. This leads me to believe that there will be a big change coming in the near future. We will either be able to sustain independence and growth, or be forced to follow a stringent set of rules that not everybody will adhere to. In my opinion it will come down to politics, but only because there is $ involved. Either we are heading toward global socialism, or toward fanatic democracy. The way the majority of people think seems to demand one extreme or another. This is suicide for the human race, we need to be able to compromise and adapt or we are doomed.
 

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Answer: NO
Why: The world (which is part of the universe) is infinite. Everything is connected.

**I did not look at the responses of others prior to posting my response.
 

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That's a really good question to ask INTJ's.

Personally I don't think it does, but people have the ability to conceptualize 'it' through perception. I often "automatically" try to box things (temporarily!). The boxes are able to shift, expand or narrow down. There can be small boxes belonging in bigger boxes. It's probably one of those ways of how I make sense to the world(s) I see in my head. I suppose it is structuring. Remember though, the possibilities are broad or can be "renewed". But the elements to work with are out there to absorb. :D
Well put skyline. People like boxes (containers) for their ideas and perceptions. Boxes are place holders. But their relationship to reality is questionable.
 
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