Sakinorva Cognitive Function Domain Test

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NoblePleb

Discussion Starter · 14 d ago (Edited)

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What a beast of a test. 256 Questions, attempts to have an objective understanding of what the functions actually mean, since it differs so much depending on who you ask. So the functions are grouped into domains. Also, you can "fail" the test, apparently more likely if you're an experienced test-taker, who pick answers to get points for a desired function. Once you're finished, you will get a very detailed explanation of what it all means, and I suggest you read it. Also, the creator deliberately made it more difficult to get the more demanded, popular types. If you have the time it might be worth it. This test is also from someone who thinks Cognitive Functions are a load of bullshit, but made this with best efforts to make sense of it. It's great.

Test results:

I scored very high on Fe, which is surprising. This is the issue with tests though, I value Fe quite a lot, and I've made efforts to be a better user of Fe, this might have affected the results. Although I tried my hardest to be as objective as possible. Still, cool!

Link if you wanna try it out: Sakinorva Cognitive Function Domains Test

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NIHM

· #21 · 8 d ago (Edited)

NoblePleb said:
Personally I found this one quite good. Do you mind sharing those other tests though? I'm intrigued

@Llyralen a better explanation and list of them. I can't remember all of them but there are new ones popping up that do not test accurately at all. It's like someone that made a test and didn't fully understand the MBTI or as someone pointed out does not care for the MBTI so it's more of a joke. Some of the worst can be a person with full Jung theory only and not going by what the other two scientists flushed out to become the MBTI it's known as today (Myers and Briggs personality test). The official one that the college gives you is probably one of the more accurate ones I've taken. Though free to take if you're at a university for being undecided, it's not free for the general public and costs money. Again Llyralen has a better list of them that are free.

I took an accurate function test recently and I was Ne, Te, Fi, Ni, Ti, Si, Fe, Se in that order.

But on this one, my Te was last place my Fe was pretty high. Both my Ne and Ni scored high on this test, my Ne edged out my Ni for first place as it always does because I'm heavily intuitive. My Fi edged out my Fe but both we're pretty high. I've never had Fe that high in my life. So that tells me the test makers have no clue what Fe/Fi or Te/Ti does and do not know how to properly test for them or ascertain a correct question to fit it.

When I retook it and answer all negative questions = heavy Te. so that means they think only assholes are Te people. That is not the case. All MBTIs can have assholes in them.

"You are generally attuned to what it means and takes to be of good moral character. " Strong NO

"You know exactly how to break someone. " Strong Yes

"You tend to communicate harshly or bluntly with others. " Strong yes

"You believe the world is ruled by the law of the jungle, that the strong prey on the weak." strong yes

This is what I got Te>Se>Ni>Ti>Fi>Ne>Si>Fe = ENTJ

And I don't disagree that Te can be blunt and a blunt force hammer but that's not all that it is. And if that's the only Te question the test maker thinks that it is, it's going to miss a lot of placement for people with Te as a third or second function. Do you understand?

Fe was all the lovey-dovey I'm so emotionally intuned with people. That's not just Fe. I know a lot of INFPs that can understand people and really empathize in a situation. So the test makers don't know how to properly test for Fi or Fe, hence I get both scored high.

It's a huge flaw in a test when two functions can't be properly tested for.

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DOGSOUP

· #22 · 8 d ago

Glacius said:
I remember one question in particular that was something like:
Do you think that X is important? Oh, sure, not totally but yes.
50 questions later...
Do you think that the opposite of X is important? Oh, that is the opposite of that question, it will bite me in the ass but sure, it's equally or even more important, have a total yes.

So it's not entirely out of question being inconsistent "disagreeing" with yourself while being honest, just by virtue of valuing both sides of a dichotomy.

Yeah, people aren't simple or consistent, either. But with those kinds of questions, I'd probably pick the neutral option in the first place.

Llyralen

· #23 · 6 d ago

There are so many micro-aggressions all through the test. While some functions seem to have halos around them. I think it would give a lot of people a false typing. I’m not sure how well the test understands the functions anyway.

#88
You like having silly conversations where you discuss ideas with no real intention of carrying them out.

I think an S equivalent would be something close to “You like to waste time moving your body at gyms, dancing or sports even though you know you’ll never make money at it.”

Wouldn’t this one check for arrogance instead of cognitive function?
#79
You are a deep thinker and often find that others rarely think as deeply as you.

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melindap

· #24 · 6 d ago

Llyralen said:
There are so many micro-aggressions all through the test. While some functions seem to have halos around them. I think it would give a lot of people a false typing. I’m not sure how well the test understands the functions anyway.

#88
You like having silly conversations where you discuss ideas with no real intention of carrying them out.

I think an S equivalent would be something close to “You like to waste time moving your body at gyms, dancing or sports even though you know you’ll never make money at it.”

Wouldn’t this one check for arrogance instead of cognitive function?
#79
You are a deep thinker and often find that others rarely think as deeply as you.

Yes I noticed them too, it stereotypes and makes fun of "functions" that the test creator doesn't like I presume... =/

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Rihanna

· #25 · 6 d ago

oh look fun, a test..lemme see
also what is magic score? are we magical?

Glacius

· #26 · 5 d ago

Rihanna said:
oh look fun, a test..lemme see
also what is magic score? are we magical?

I think that magical score is calculated using another of the previous methods but taking into account the answers tagged as manipulated.

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Rihanna

· #27 · 5 d ago

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I am mage level 21.

Also, Fe level 69

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melody5697

· #28 · 5 d ago (Edited)

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I passed with flying colors!

I wonder what the strawberry formula is... Edit: Never mind, it's explained at the bottom, lol.

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melody5697

· #29 · 5 d ago

So I kinda read a bit of the explanation of how the test works, and apparently they have both positive AND negative questions for all the functions. That's what the positivity score is about.

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Llyralen

· #30 · 5 d ago

melody5697 said:
So I kinda read a bit of the explanation of how the test works, and apparently they have both positive AND negative questions for all the functions. That's what the positivity score is about.

Then it is just badly written. “Play” talking with Ne is mental exercise, it’s just like trying out physical limits with Se. Instead of actually finding real weaknesses like low Si, I just have to deal with the test-writer’s negative opinions. Who is going to agree with these opinions? I don’t think my conversations are silly. It’s just a bad test, in my opinion.

lol. I guess I will take it and now others will have to deal with my negative opinion… lol

melody5697

· #31 · 5 d ago

Llyralen said:
Then it is just badly written. “Play” talking with Ne is mental exercise, it’s just like trying out physical limits with Se. Instead of actually finding real weaknesses like low Si, I just have to deal with the test-writer’s negative opinions. Who is going to agree with these opinions? I don’t think my conversations are silly. It’s just a bad test, in my opinion.

lol. I guess I will take it and now others will have to deal with my negative opinion… lol

Well, there's also the magic level, which is higher if you give weird answers. Maybe that's a question that raises your magic level if you say yes? I was thinking more that the questions that make Te users look like jerks were probably just the negative questions for Te.

Vizzlo

· #32 · 5 d ago

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Damn, guess i'm retarded, I didn't even know you can fail something like this.... wow

The test honestly didn't need to be that long, after the first 100 questions it just rewords them over and over pretty answering the exact same questions just worded differently.

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melody5697

· #33 · 5 d ago

Vizzlo said:
Damn, guess i'm retarded, I didn't even know you can fail something like this.... wow

The test honestly didn't need to be that long, after the first 100 questions it just rewords them over and over pretty answering the exact same questions just worded differently.

If you "fail," that means that you gave too many weird answers and the test thinks you aren't being honest with yourself.

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Vizzlo

· #34 · 5 d ago (Edited)

melody5697 said:
If you "fail," that means that you gave too many weird answers and the test thinks you aren't being honest with yourself.

I didn't even know you could be "too complex".

Akiblue

· #35 · 5 d ago (Edited)

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secondpassing

· #36 · 2 d ago

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secondpassing

· #37 · 2 d ago

I thought the test was quite good. Before passing judgment on how good it is, I'd recommend understanding what it's testing for.

They explain how they "define" the functions at the bottom. It divides the scores into latent, active, apititudinal, and valuing. I'm more of a purist, but I do think cognitive functions influence one's likelihood of having certain values (and vice-versa), and I don't think highly of apititudinal. Regardless, I would personally type myself as an INFP, which is consistent with the Grant one and the purist's formula.

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DOGSOUP

· #38 · 2 d ago

Llyralen said:
There are so many micro-aggressions all through the test. While some functions seem to have halos around them. I think it would give a lot of people a false typing. I’m not sure how well the test understands the functions anyway.

#88
You like having silly conversations where you discuss ideas with no real intention of carrying them out.

I think an S equivalent would be something close to “You like to waste time moving your body at gyms, dancing or sports even though you know you’ll never make money at it.”

Erm... who doesn't like silly conversations like that though?

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Llyralen

· #39 · 1 d ago (Edited)

DOGSOUP said:
Erm... who doesn't like silly conversations like that though?

Oh how many mis-types will there be really ?
Heidi, Zach, Methuselah. Billy?
if the Sarkinova test uses the the word “silly “?

Ha ha… it just flows… amazing…

Llyralen

· #40 · 1 d ago

secondpassing said:
I thought the test was quite good. Before passing judgment on how good it is, I'd recommend understanding what it's testing for.

They explain how they "define" the functions at the bottom. It divides the scores into latent, active, apititudinal, and valuing. I'm more of a purist, but I do think cognitive functions influence one's likelihood of having certain values (and vice-versa), and I don't think highly of apititudinal. Regardless, I would personally type myself as an INFP, which is consistent with the Grant one and the purist's formula.

If you think it’s good, I will take another look, try to take it and read the fine print. I’m not sure how to answer questions like the one I posted where I don’t agree with the opinionated spin on that function, but otherwise it’s me. Even if they did that by design, I don’t know what to do with it. It is just one question, but there are a lot of questions where they put a positive or negative spin on what I call neutral. so far I can’t just flow with it. I keep wanting to ask what the heck they are doing and if they really think that. Lol. I’m not sure that I will be able to take it, actually. Maybe after I read how they are grading it.

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