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https://sakinorva.net/test/rheti
I stumbled upon this test and I'm not sure if it's been posted here before. If it has, I apologize, but otherwise, I'm curious what other peoples' results are and if they're accurate.
Honestly... Much of these seem like very arbitrary dichotomies, or at least dichotomies that could easily be interpreted more than one way. There's so many that I'm reading going, "I'm honestly 50/50" or "I'm literally neither." For the first 50 questions, I kinda wanted to bash my head in with these, although I (finally) realized maybe they're not all either/or dichotomies...

Other questions leave me wondering what context, or how much context I should ascribe to it. #116 is a great example: "Being of service and attending to the needs of others has been a high priority for me" OR "Finding alternative ways of seeing and doing things has been a high priority for me." Context assumes B means primarily social, except that it IS a high priority to me to see/do things "differently," but that context is largely based on keeping an open mind, not on adapting to the social situation of the moment.

Pretty typical results for me: 5w4 or 9w1 INTP/INxP, because obviously the only people who do these things are 459 INxxs, and all IxTx are 5s. I never test as my proper type(s), though, so I'm a little jaded, sorry xD

since a lot of INFJs are more Pish than MBTI tests account for
I dislike the MBTI's description of J/P. I'm not as big into debating and I blend systems a lot... But just to weigh in a little, I'm convinced that there's many misconceptions of Introverted Perception CFs. I see myself very much in the "IxxP temperament," which makes complete sense to me because I'm an N-dom. I'm sure there are INxJs (Ni-dom) which relate to the "IJ temperament," but they should be fewer. They're probably mistyped, a lot of J-doms posing as P-doms (the opposite no doubt exists, as well).

I suppose mistyping in itself doesn't matter, but it has the tendency to blur the definitions and create confusion.
 

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Well I couldn't not respond, sorry.
I dislike the MBTI's description of J/P. I'm not as big into debating and I blend systems a lot...
You took the initiative to blend systems and create your own.
But just to weigh in a little, I'm convinced that there's many misconceptions of Introverted Perception CFs.
Misconceptions = they don't agree with the system you created?
I see myself very much in the "IxxP temperament," which makes complete sense to me because I'm an N-dom.
This makes sense.
I'm sure there are INxJs (Ni-dom) which relate to the "IJ temperament," but they should be fewer.
Agreed.
They're probably mistyped, a lot of J-doms posing as P-doms (the opposite no doubt exists, as well).
Maybe they're not "posing" or suffering from misconceptions, but they just are using something different than you're using?
I suppose mistyping in itself doesn't matter, but it has the tendency to blur the definitions and create confusion.
Says the person who openly blends MBTI and Socionics, cognitive functions, etc. I see you as a contributor to this "problem".
 

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Says the person who openly blends MBTI and Socionics, cognitive functions, etc. I see you as a contributor to this "problem".
I mean, feeling's probably mutual in different ways, but such is life. I'd try to clarify things, but I doubt we'd make any headway or reach any understanding since you went with the worst possible interpretations right off the bat.

We could easily worst-interpret each other all day, which sounds tiring and kinda boring.

If this were any other subforum, or even thread really, I'd try harder to stick to that subforum's topic... Or I'd state context and my own biases as I did here. (Which were similar to OP's, as far as I read.) Since this is not those specific subforums, yup, I'll be a little more relaxed.
 

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rheti enneagram type9

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I'm not sure why the calculated Tritype is shown as "4x1" rather than "41x" (with the numerical tie falling between 5 & 6 for Head). Surprisingly this is one of very few instruments that has returned "INFP" for my best-fit MBTI type (usually come back as INFJ), which I do believe is my best-fit type.
 

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I mean, feeling's probably mutual in different ways, but such is life. I'd try to clarify things, but I doubt we'd make any headway or reach any understanding since you went with the worst possible interpretations right off the bat.

We could easily worst-interpret each other all day, which sounds tiring and kinda boring.

If this were any other subforum, or even thread really, I'd try harder to stick to that subforum's topic... Or I'd state context and my own biases as I did here. (Which were similar to OP's, as far as I read.) Since this is not those specific subforums, yup, I'll be a little more relaxed.
Well I guess, how else was I supposed to interpret it?

When people seem to be lamenting others not using the same "prism" to separate people into types that they use themselves (implying it's the others' fault), it just seems like a typical pot/kettle situation. Especially when their own prism was built by meshing things together.

If everyone is going through this build-your-own prism process then confusion between people is almost going to be guaranteed as viewpoints will differ based on one's own experiences, biases, focuses, etc.

In contrast, Sakinorva is more or less informally adhering to an external standard (that of MBTI), using answers to determine letter preferences. The idea that what you have typed yourself using your own system is more "proper" or whatever outside of your perspective, is bogus.
 

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Pretty accurate. I don't know my tritype, so I can't judge whether that part is accurate. But the rest is consistent with what I believe my type is.
 

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Well I guess, how else was I supposed to interpret it?

When people seem to be lamenting others not using the same "prism" to separate people into types that they use themselves, it just seems like a typical pot/kettle situation. Especially when their own prism was built by meshing things together.

If everyone is going through this build-your-own prism process then confusion between people is almost going to be guaranteed as viewpoints will differ based on one's own experiences, biases, focuses, etc.
Ah, right. I just didn't go into much detail so there wasn't really much to criticize aside from what you assumed. But you did choose to take my usage of "posing" poorly, which I'll admit wasn't the best word choice on my part but it wasn't a word I chose with a negative intention, either.

My "prism" nowadays, as far as MBTI/CFs/Socionics/Keirsey/etc, tends more towards Socionics. And, broadly speaking, the "prisms" I take issue with are those which I find superficial or biased. (I know, "I find," annoyingly subjective.) Not, as much, the definition-based prisms, but rather the sort which say Sensors are all dumb, or Ni is the source of all power, etc. I borrow a little from "CFs" because my usage of Socionics terminology is rusty/beginnerish-as-hell, and I can 'translate' into letter dichotomies, just depends. But yeah, I find most things I'm talking about to be somewhere in Socionics, so maybe I should just make the switch. The CF community here is much easier to get "into," though...

In contrast, Sakinorva is more or less informally adhering to an external standard (that of MBTI), using answers to determine letter preferences. The idea that what you have typed yourself using your own system is more "proper" or whatever outside of your perspective, is bogus.
...I would be interested to know which questions score on which types...

But yeah, my system probably isn't as blended as you seem to think. I'll defer MBTI/CFs to you for now; Enneagram is more my jam, anyways. The older works of Enneagram are really interesting, especially if you notice how some types' identifiers got moved or switched with other types'. That's why I tend to see certain Enneagram types "differently," since it's often a little more divorced from MBTI than most people here work with, and it's based on a generation before the mainstream. In any case, I will say that combining systems to Type with is bad practice, imo. There's patterns but no guarantees, so the conflation leads people astray. I suppose that's my biggest gripe about this test.

I could ramble on about Enneagram, but I get the impression you don't care as much about it, so I'll stop here :p
 

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I'm not sure why the calculated Tritype is shown as "4x1" rather than "41x" (with the numerical tie falling between 5 & 6 for Head).
It seems to list the order of Heart-Head-Gut (or Shame-Fear-Anger, if you prefer) regardless of core type or scoring. Unless I missed someone who did have their not-a-heart-type type listed first?
 

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Ah, right. I just didn't go into much detail so there wasn't really much to criticize aside from what you assumed. But you did choose to take my usage of "posing" poorly, which I'll admit wasn't the best word choice on my part but it wasn't a word I chose with a negative intention, either.
I guess where I take the most issue is with the idea of this sort of "prism superiority". Depending on how you perceive thing, your "reds" (or let's say INTJs) will include different people. I am perfectly fine with this "subjective thinking" or whatever you want to call it that leads to these individualized type-sorting results, but... I feel like this pathway should include the awareness and admission of how typings will differ as a result and allow for a mutual toleration for those who have decided to take that same pathway. Without that, you just end up with people talking about how they're right and other people are wrong, when neither are standing on high ground.

If three different people develop their way of seeing people as 16 types, and all come up with different combinations of INTP, INFP, and INTJ for both me and you, who is right and who is wrong? Honestly I don't mean to be overly critical here - I think they could be all right from a certain perspective (whatever that is). I may have some problems with using MBTI type codes for this if they're using functions or Socionics or whatever just because of the confusion it leads to when people are referring to such different things with the same codes, but the essence of what they are saying can all be "right".
My "prism" nowadays, as far as MBTI/CFs/Socionics/Keirsey/etc, tends more towards Socionics. And, broadly speaking, the "prisms" I take issue with are those which I find superficial or biased. (I know, "I find," annoyingly subjective.) Not, as much, the definition-based prisms, but rather the sort which say Sensors are all dumb, or Ni is the source of all power, etc. I borrow a little from "CFs" because my usage of Socionics terminology is rusty/beginnerish-as-hell, and I can 'translate' into letter dichotomies, just depends. But yeah, I find most things I'm talking about to be somewhere in Socionics, so maybe I should just make the switch. The CF community here is much easier to get "into," though...
So we both take issue with similar things, and we also may also take issue with some different things. I think that's healthy. I personally only use MBTI type codes to describe letter typing because I value clarity. If INTP doesn't mean Introvert iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving then why use those letters? I believe when we're abstractly representing something with the code, the code should NOT be counter-intuitive.

Like you mention getting into Socionics, so wouldn't it just make more sense to use Socionics type code to describe a prism which is sorting based upon Socionics concepts?
...I would be interested to know which questions score on which types...
Me too...
But yeah, my system probably isn't as blended as you seem to think. I'll defer MBTI/CFs to you for now; Enneagram is more my jam, anyways. The older works of Enneagram are really interesting, especially if you notice how some types' identifiers got moved or switched with other types'. That's why I tend to see certain Enneagram types "differently," since it's often a little more divorced from MBTI than most people here work with, and it's based on a generation before the mainstream. In any case, I will say that combining systems to Type with is bad practice, imo. There's patterns but no guarantees, so the conflation leads people astray. I suppose that's my biggest gripe about this test.

I could ramble on about Enneagram, but I get the impression you don't care as much about it, so I'll stop here :p
Please do ramble on about Enneagram. I think it can be interesting. Maybe not so much in describing people but just like how the prisms differ so much even within respected references (let's say Riso-Hudson vs. Naranjo vs. Chestnut vs. Fauvre). It's interesting to look at people as "Riso-Hudson 3's" when they would be completely different types in other prisms.

I've always just assumed I was a tritype 9 but it just came to my attention that I can be more of a 1 than a 9 in some worlds... Parallel universes where light refracts differently. That's what it all is. :crazy:
 

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rheti enneagram - 2
with wing - 2w3
calculated "tritype" - 269
raw likely mbti - ENFP
comparative likely mbti - ENFP

2 > 4 > 6 > 3 = 7= 9 > 5 > 8 > 1

I liked the experience of taking this test, though I was surprised by the sheer length. Still, it wasn't one of those "this is obviously measuring ____", at least not for me. I also tried to go as quickly and instinctively as possible and I think that helped, too. Not too surprised by the results... 2w3 is the type I relate to the second-most. I think my current job brings out my 2w3 as well. And I am easily ambiverted, though I relate more to INFP than ENFP.
 

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most likely myers-briggs type (raw)
ENFP
most likely myers-briggs type (comparative)
ENFP

definitely a 2, x79 could be right, ENFP could be right
 

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Pretty good,
Picked up my 5w4 and my 1 fix. Went for INTP over ENTP but hardly surprising for an ILE-Ti/E5
 

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My results came out as ENTP 7w8, 471

This test is too black and white IMO. Still could be a good starting point for those new to the enneagram I guess.
 
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