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SEXUALITY, GENDER ROLES, AND THE ENNEAGRAM
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Mmmm controversy.. :angry:
What do you think of this article?
Mmmm controversy.. :angry:
lols. this is complete nonsense. sexuality is the direction of arousal, or the gender that produces arousal. that's it. nothing more to it.By "sexuality" I mean the personal experience of arousal and the drive toward orgasm.
while i do concede that ''taboo'' or ''alien'' (lols) acts of sex can result in a higher degree of arousal, this by no means, means that taboo is the only form which leads to sexual satisfaction. it's fully off base. and the claim that sex can never be healthy or normal, is fucked up. the individual who reaches such a conclusion is fucked up in one way or another. sex is one of the most natural and normal drives there exist in any human being. so, fuck off with your bullshit.All depends upon the idea of violating strangeness....When the intensity of sexual response depends on the alien-ness that has been invaded, it follows that men will try to intensify the response still further by going further afield in alien-ness. Since their enjoyment of "normal" sex depends on the sense of violating a taboo, it follows that they will try to increase their satisfaction by including as many taboos as possible in the sexual object....All sexual perversions, from mere adultery to necrophily, can be seen as attempts to increase the alien-ness of the act by increasing the number of taboos involved. Sex can never, on any level, be "healthy" or "normal." It always depends on the violating of taboos--or, as Baudelaire would have said, on the sense of sin.
I found it really interesting here that type four was considered closest to the female gender role. Usually I see four portrayed as a somewhat less-gendered "deep, soulful artist" type that would fit a lot of men, too, with the only feminine thing about four being that it was considered a somewhat emotional type.
Type two is the one I usually see compared to the female gender role, emphasizing the connection between two and eight and the connection between male and female. The official Enneagram test even suggests that women who score high on two investigate their next highest scores as well, because society often pressures women to seem two-ish.
The connection between type two and bisexuality is interesting as well...I'm bisexual and type seven, which I always thought went well together, interesting that two is the primary type associated with bisexuality here.
I also agree with this. I'm sure there are ways you could explore gender roles and stereotypes through the other Enneagram types as well.I was hoping to read about some of the other types too =/ oh well
I found it really interesting here that type four was considered closest to the female gender role. Usually I see four portrayed as a somewhat less-gendered "deep, soulful artist" type that would fit a lot of men, too, with the only feminine thing about four being that it was considered a somewhat emotional type.
Type two is the one I usually see compared to the female gender role, emphasizing the connection between two and eight and the connection between male and female. The official Enneagram test even suggests that women who score high on two investigate their next highest scores as well, because society often pressures women to seem two-ish.
The connection between type two and bisexuality is interesting as well...I'm bisexual and type seven, which I always thought went well together, interesting that two is the primary type associated with bisexuality here.
I actually view men as the more emotional gender, women simply display theirs more.I found it really interesting here that type four was considered closest to the female gender role. Usually I see four portrayed as a somewhat less-gendered "deep, soulful artist" type that would fit a lot of men, too, with the only feminine thing about four being that it was considered a somewhat emotional type.
imo, type 2 is the most sexually dichotomous of the Enneagram types and the most likely to adjust themselves to a societal standard of masculinity/femininity. male 2s typically come off as much more masculine than one would perceive simply by reading descriptionsType two is the one I usually see compared to the female gender role, emphasizing the connection between two and eight and the connection between male and female. The official Enneagram test even suggests that women who score high on two investigate their next highest scores as well, because society often pressures women to seem two-ish.
I would have associated type 7 with bisexuality as well, given our preference for experimentation, variety and voracious sexual appetites (of course, there is little correlation with actual bisexuality as much as having a personality that would be more willing to accept and/or investigate bisexuality)The connection between type two and bisexuality is interesting as well...I'm bisexual and type seven, which I always thought went well together, interesting that two is the primary type associated with bisexuality here.
Forget Socrates! That guy died years ago!1996? That's not a very reliable source. It isn't up-to-date at all, or anywhere near it.
That was my hope as well. Also, it is worth noting that a 5 can have a 4-wing and integrate to an 8 which is another way to link those types but does this get covered? Noooo...... sighI was hoping to read about some of the other types too =/ oh well
I may or may not have walked right into that.Forget Socrates! That guy died years ago!
SEXUALITY, GENDER ROLES, AND THE ENNEAGRAM
What do you think of this article?
Mmmm controversy.. :angry:
I think this was my favourite part.too much time on their hands said:Of all points on the Enneagram, Twos have the most potential for "polymorphous perversity"--swinging both ways. If a reliable tool for assessing sexual orientation in relation to the Enneagram were ever developed, I suspect it would show that a large proportion of bi-sexuals (of both sexes) are Twos.
you captured the gender dichotomy of E2 quite nicely.I find the commentary on 2s and gender roles in this thread interesting. I actually imagine my 2-fix as having both a very masculine and a very feminine side to it. I picture it as a princess who is also a knight (think a sort of warlord), switching between a very girly, feminine and demanding affect, and an amoral protective warrior vibe--not literally male, but traditionally masculine. I'm also very interested in lady/knight dynamics in fiction, which I think comes from a dynamic that happens in my brain. My 2 is a lady and a knight. So I actually do understand the idea of "polymorphous" in relation to 2s and gender, though of course the idea that that could be in any way linked to bisexuality is dumb.