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So my awesome friend (entp) introduced me to this site and obviously there is an extreme lack of activity from my "kind" heh. What I have seen, sick of relationship posts (gag) and how to hook up with an esfp which makes me giggle. The other types' views on esfps makes me question, what interactions have they had with an esfp? If it is your brother, sister, or even cousin.. that don't count. Family rivalry happens with ALL types. I have never been called shallow in my life. So have you actually taken the time to get to know an esfp? Or are we that obnoxious you can't dare to have an actual conversation? Just curious. If you are wondering, second time I've wrote this post because my phone sucks and yes I've been drinking. Judge monkey
 

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My auntie is an ESFP, and I don't think she is shallow. She can look shallow on the surface, but if you know her better, you will know that she is not.

She does brag about herself though, sometimes, which we all think is funny and hilarious. She likes to tell stories about the clients she has at her bank and about how well she deals with difficult clients and situations.

It's just that I sometimes dislike her when she makes fun of people, being mean and insulting, which is unintentional/ jokes most of the time. She is quite materialistic, which is another thing that I am not and I don't like. I guess the materialism (another stereotype of ESFP) is one thing that leads to the "shallowness"
 
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I dont consider myself materialistic but I can be "mean" mostly joking around. Most people find me to be hilarious, and all of my friends share the same cruel humor I do. Its not to be cruel just to clarify. Unless its a counter attack to someone who has provoked me or hurt me. I can find humor in almost anything and I love to laugh. I love to make my friends laugh. Im definitely not ditzy either. Sometimes I act "dumb" to get out of trouble in a sticky situation. *shrug*
 

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I really don't mind being called shallow. If that means interested in real things more than endless theoretical debates about stuff that will never change, then I plead guilty. Pass the chips and dip and let me groove to the music. Much more fun than wallowing in the world's problems.

Now if shallow/deep is about feelings, then you will find no one deeper than me. I feel to the core of my soul and then a few miles deeper. I truly do love my neighbor, strive to show love to everybody and feel every emotion course through me as the waves ripple and the wind blows. I forgive but I don't forget, I have faith but I don't blindly accept, I leap but I also keep my eyes open. Party on and be excellent to each other. :happy:
 

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I have an ESFP mum who alternates between being quite shallow from an average person's point of view (but in a very adorable way, kind of like a cute and ditzy cheerleader :kitteh:) and popping out deep truths in a simple and straightforward manner. Overall, I think I would best describe her as having a simple, happy-go-lucky approach to life. She has a Ph.D. and works as a university professor (which sounds like a very "deep" thing), but she's in it mostly for chatting with students and travelling to conferences (she loves people and talking more than anything, I think), while seeing academic papers as "bullshit" that simply has to be done so she has an excuse to go places. Much like @Fat Bozo described (and much like that quote in your sig!), she doesn't care for theorising about the state of the world and what not because she would rather dance, have fun and share love with people....we are actually surprisingly similar in this sense :happy:
 
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I'm new here, but I understand what you're saying. I've spent thirty minutes digging through the website and I just came across this. I'm not shallow, I hate accepting rewards when I don't feel like I deserve them and yes, I am all about having fun. If we can't have fun, then we're just going day by day in a life we don't live. And just like Shakti said, ESFP's do come across as the ditzy cheerleader, I know I do sometimes, but that's because we feel like that's what the room wants. ESFP's are the performers, and performers entertain to please people and give them what they want. ESFP's are all just people pleasers, so I don't understand all the dislike for the natural people-pleasers. It's not shallow or two-faced to want to make everyone happy, it's just a diplomat point of view. And sometimes, I do spout a lot of stuff that makes people wonder if I've been two-faced and pretending to be ditzy. The end is, ESFP's don't pretend, unless it's on stage and it pleases people. People often tell me that they like me because in the end, I will always say what's on my mind and I'm the least confined by social standards. I believe that ESFP's are the ones that people gravitate towards because we don't care about society's standards, we just want to live. But they're also repulsed because we don't care about society's standards, only the people around us. Most personality types cannot understand how an ESFP or any SP's can so quickly love everyone, instead of just an inner circle, which makes us come across as shallow and lying, instead of understanding that ESFP's see every life form as something to love, we see the big picture, not the small details. I understand that as an ESFP yourself, you understand everything I'm saying, I just wish the other personality types, especially the ones that dislike us, would realize that.
 

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Knowing @Tera personally, I'd have to say that given how bubbly, random, and fun you always are, I still find a strong, intelligent woman right beneath the surface. I honestly thought she was an N for awhile, considering how well she took to me when I'd start spouting out my theories and interpretations of things, like cerebral vomiting lol. I think we sort of balance each other out; she gets me out of my head-space and into the moment, and I get her to stop and really think at times.

But no, definitely not shallow.
I mean, shit, I've seen the dudes you date. =O
 
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