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This is an upgraded version of the previous scenario based questionnaire I was testing on this thread:
http://personalitycafe.com/whats-my...t-scenario-based-type-questionnaire-test.html

Some key points to the update:

  • Refined the wording in the first 3 scenarios and added an additional Ti vs Te scenario to make it even between F and T
  • Scenario 4 is now scenario 5 and 5 is now 6. Retooled the career scenario and made it more open and designed with the intent on drawing out reasons and motivations behind the choices.
  • Removed the Keirsey Temperament focus in Scenario 6 and 7 and inserted an open ended image to discuss IOT gauge strength of N vs S.

If you feel that this has been valuable tool in helping narrow down and identify type PLEASE rate this thread. If you don't find value in this then keep your comments and ratings to yourself! I'm very sensitive.
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...aaand Kidding, however if you feel this needs further refinement, I would love feedback as to your thoughts.

A HUGE thank you goes out to all who participated in trying out my original test as well as those who offered very valuable feedback and suggestions! @StunnedFox @LavenderMoon @idoh @telarana @emberfly @Living dead @castigat @To_august just to name a few… as well as SO many others that participated and helped as well. I’m sorry if I missed you but there were just too many to all list here.

My goal here is to create a short, effective, efficient, and all inclusive means for individuals to assess and self-type or for others besides myself to use this test to type. A description of things to look for in each scenario as well as how to use the scenarios to logically narrow down potential opitions is listed in the spoiler below.

**If you are taking this test in order to type yourself please DO NOT read through the key before you give your answers as they may skew your perspective and thus the results. The ONLY right answers here are ones that are true and honest to who you are.

Also, due to so many responses in my initial thread I will not be attempting to analyze every single one unless specifically asked. That is what the key is for. If you would like me or someone else to offer their input please mention who in your post and please attempt to use the key to give your own self-typing analysis first. It really helps those analyzing to see what functions you think you are using.

Lastly, when responding to the scenarios please focus your attention on the reasons and the why behind your decisions. If you choose to do a particular thing please take the time to talk about what thought process influenced that decision. The choices aren’t as important as the reasons why. Anyone trying to type you will be unable to get a clear sense of anything based on the decision and/or behavior alone**

“You didn't come here to make the choice.
You already made it.
You're here to try to understand why you made it.”
-The Oracle

SCENARIO 1


FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

Your significant other just ended your 2 year relationship quite suddenly and with no apparent explanation. Up until this point you had both been talking about marriage and last week you even went to look at rings together. Now he/she won't even return your phone calls or texts. After talking with his/her family you find out that he/she has just been diagnosed with terminal stage 4 cancer.

- Describe how this scenario would make you feel as well as what sort of influences and motivations lie behind those feelings. Why do you feel the way you do?

- In this scenario what would you honestly say the primary focus of your feelings would be?



SCENARIO 2

FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

You are in college and this semester both you and your roommate end up in the same class together. You and your roommate get along fairly well and the living situation works but you aren't particularly close. You both typically do your own thing and are rather indifferent to each other. As the semester progresses you excel and become one of the top students in the class whereas your roommate is struggling significantly to grasp the material. The professor assigns a fairly challenging take home test that is a significant portion of your grade. He/she makes it clear that while it is open book, students are to work alone. Later your roommate comes to you begging for help after struggling with the test most of the weekend. You have already completed the assignment and he/she isn't asking to copy your answers, just to help tutor and mentor them as they struggle to complete the test, so there is no way your professor would ever know. However, this is the first time your room-mate has asked you for help this semester. He/she makes it clear that how they do on this test could mean the difference between passing and failing this class.

- How do you respond to your roommate’s request and why?

- What sort of things in this scenario stand out to you as far as having a strong influence on your decision making and why?

- Describe the flow of your decision making process.



SCENARIO 3

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your boss calls you into his/her office in order to assign you to a new project. He/she gives you a choice between two.

Project 1 is a rather broad, expansive project covering multiple areas of company operations. It has the potential to have a very significant impact on company operations but it would require a collective effort and an extensive amount of group work where you would be logically thinking through the project together with the group of individuals your boss has also assigned to it.

Project 2 has a much more specific and narrow focus and would require a significant amount of in depth individual analysis to work through the problem. You would be working alone and the completion of the project may or may not have much impact on company operations. However, after complete the process and problem you were working on will be streamlined and fundamentally understood.

- Which project appeals to you the most, as it relates to the way you prefer to logically process information? Why?

- What sort of things in this scenario, across either project, stood out to you as having a strong influence on your decision? Why?

SCENARIO 4

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your college professor has assigned you to a group project with 3 other individuals. All 3 of these individuals have a good strong work ethic and desire to contribute to the overall success of this project. You are at the first meeting of your group and the other members are tossing around valuable ideas as to the nature and direction of this project.

- Describe your behavior in this situation as you process and think about the ideas they are presenting.

- Describe what major influences drive this behavior.


SCENARIO 5

FOCUS ON THE SOURCES YOU DRAW NON-PHYSICAL ENERGY FROM HERE

It has been a very long week and you feel mentally and emotionally drained, but good news! It is Saturday and you have nothing significant that needs to be done. You FINALLY have some free time to yourself to recharge your batteries and do whatever you want.

- Describe what sort of activities would help you to recharge. What would you enjoy doing after a long week and why?

- What sort of things do you feel you draw non-physical energy from doing?


SCENARIO 6

FOCUS ON THINKING VS FEELING HERE

You have a meeting with your college career counselor to discuss potential careers that interest you. He/she offers you a list of the following careers and asks you to pick your TOP 3. He/she asks you to take money out of the equation. Imagine all of these careers received equal compensation. Focus instead on where you would truly feel most happy and fulfilled.

Artist, Scientist, Actor, Engineer, Musician, Lawyer, Counselor, Entrepreneur, Teacher, Manager, Psychologist, Computer Programmer / Analyst, Clergy, Child Care, Medical Doctor

- What were your top 3 choices and what aspects of these careers appeal to you?

- Was it difficult or easy to pick only 3 and why?

- Prioritize the aspects of your career choices that influenced your decision, what things mattered most to you, where do you imagine finding the most fulfillment and why?



SCENARIO 7

Click on the image below and pay close attention to the things that jump out to you, objects, thoughts, feelings, impressions, ideas etc. What do you see?


Formation Nature Rock Cave Natural landscape

- Describe the main things that stand out to you in this picture.

- Why do you think/feel you focused on those things?

- Describe the strength with which this photo did or did not appeal to you and why?


 

Scenario 1
The purpose here is to try to get a sense of Fe or Fi from the feelings / reaction they describe. Pay close attention to what the individual talks about as that is typically where their focus lies. Look beyond the decisions and try to discern what is motivating and driving the decision.

Fe:

  • May describe feeling overwhelmed, numb, or confused about their own emotions (especially if tertiary or inferior Fe)
  • May try to assume or describe what their SO might be feeling
  • Their own feelings may be strongly influenced or even overwritten by what they assume their SO is feeling
  • Any decisions they make will be strongly influenced by what they perceive their SO is feeling as well as the outcome for themselves and their SO
Fi:

  • May very clearly describe exactly what and how they would be feeling in response to their SO’s actions
  • May express confusion as to what their SO is feeling or a desire to try and understand their feelings
  • Their own feelings will be clear and independent from whatever their SO might be feeling
  • Any decisions they make will be strongly influenced by what they feel is the right thing to do independent of the outcome on their SO

**Things to be aware of**

  • Pay attention to “T” analytical influence and approach to this scenario, may indicate T dom over F dom
  • Avoid stereotyping based on decisions made. Both Fi and Fe can display empathy for example
    • ex: insisting on staying by their SO’s side until the end. They each get to the decision by a different cognitive path.
    • Fi – because they determine it is the right thing to do.
    • Fe – Because of perceived negative effect on SO or themselves if they don't
    • Keep in mind there may not be an extreme noticable difference, both Fi and Fe can consider both, They each give a bit more emphasis and priority to one over the other
Scenario 2
The purpose here again is to try and get a sense of Fe or Fi influence on decisions. Pay close attention to what the individual talks most about as that is likely where their F focus lies. Look beyond the decisions and try to discern what is motivating and driving the decision.

Fe:

  • Will express possible outcomes on individuals involved based on various decisions
  • Decision will be mostly focused on the outcome of individuals involved ie: roommate, self, professor
  • Determining what is the right or wrong decision will be heavily influenced by outcome
Fi

  • Will express value judgments about the situation ie: what they perceive is right or wrong
  • Decision will be mostly focused on their internal sense of the right thing to do independent of outcome
  • Determining what is right or wrong will be heavily influenced by personal values

**Things to be aware of**

  • Do not stereotype based on the decision made, look for the influence behind the decision
    • Ex: Fe may decide not to help because they determine it is a temporary fix for their roommate and in the long run it will help them more to let them learn from this experience on their own
    • Ex: Fi may decide to help because they don’t place much value on the professors definition of right or wrong, instead they determine that letting their roommate struggle is wrong
  • Both outcome and personal values may be evident in the decision making process of both Fe and Fi, pay attention to which seems to have the stronger influence.
  • Fi does NOT mean “selfish” and Fe does NOT always mean a focus on the other person. Ex: Fe can also have an outcome focus that is based on what would happen to themselves if they decide to help

Scenario 3
The purpose of this scenario is to try and get a sense of Te or Ti in their logical thought process. Pay close attention to what the individual talks most about that appeals or does not appeal to them about each project. Look beyond the decisions and try to discern what is influencing motivating their choice. It may not necessarily be T… it could be N or social introversion / extroversion. Factor in the Fe vs Fi assessment from the first two scenarios. Fe would be paired with Ti and Fi would be paired with Te.

Te

  • Strong Te may express enjoyment in logically working through problems with outside influence / stimuli (Primary, Tert Ne influence paired with Te increases the likelihood of this)
  • Strong Te may express a desire for relevancy, real world application, effect on the company
  • Tert / Inf Te being influenced by Ni may choose to work alone because group idea generation doesn’t appeal to them. The expansive nature of the project may also intimidate them.
  • Tert / Inf Te being influenced by Fi may choose to work alone because of past experience with group members not pulling their weight or living up to their standards
Ti

  • Strong Ti may express enjoyment in logically digging in to a singular problem preferring to be left alone to “think” (Primary, Tert Ni influence paired with Ti increases the likelihood of this)
  • Strong Ti may express a desire to fundamentally understand something as well as show a lack of concern for relevancy or real world application
  • Tert / Inf Ti being influenced by Ne may choose to work in a group because collective brainstorming appeals to them. The narrow focus of the individual project may bore them.
  • Tert / Inf Ti being influenced by Fe may choose to work in a group because the socialization aspect and group decision making sounds fun.

**Things to be aware of**

  • Depending on F / T dominance and N influence… this could end up being a much better determination of extroversion / introversion especially with tertiary and inferior T

Scenario 4
The purpose of this scenario is to again try and get a sense of Te or Ti in their logical thought process. Pay close attention to how the individual’s logical process operates when forced into a social setting where they are receiving input of ideas and possible directions for the project. Look beyond the decisions and try to discern what logical process is influencing their behavior. Be aware of strong Ne / Ni influence here.

Te

  • Strong Te may try to step up and take leadership to try and logically put together the ideas being discussed
  • Strong Te may have a much more broad encompassing focus to trying to logically unify everyone ie: group voting
  • Ne influence will also motivate them to help drive idea generation
  • Strong Ne influence will be more driven to generate possibilities rather than externally organize them
  • Primary Ni/Si with tertiary Fi may mask Te here and seem like Ti, idea generation may be suppressed and more internal and narrowly focused (Ni), decision may be more personal value focused (Fi)
Ti

  • Strong Ti may choose to sit back and absorb the ideas, piecing them together internally. They may or may not choose to speak out eventually describing what they have brought together.
  • Strong Ti may have a much more narrow focus, internally picking and trying to unify the best of what was presented
  • Ni influence will increase the likelihood of silent observation as well as the internal unification process
  • Strong Ni influence will be much more driven to internally putting together the best possible course of action ie: deciding logically what they consider is the best direction for the group
  • Primary Ne/Se with tertiary Fe may mask Ti here and seem like Te, behavior may be more broad and encompassing, consist of participation in idea generation (Ne), trying to include the whole group in the decision (Fe)

**Things to be aware of**
  • F vs T dominance again plays a big role here especially if is a primary / inferior separation. Be aware of the possibility of strong F influence on their decision.
  • N extroversion / introversion also plays a role in their behavior. Alignment with T extroversion / introversion connects the idea generation / logical process together thus strengthening the T effect on behavior. Opposing extroversion / introversion may connect more and align with F and mask the T effect on behavior.
  • Pay attention to the possible strength and clarity of F vs T in the scenarios thus far. In a Primary / Inferior combo one will seem very clear the other may be ambiguous or even seem like the opposite of what it is. In an Auxiliary / Tertiary combo both may be fairly clear and align with each other but which is dominant over the other may not.

Scenario 5
This scenario is meant to determine social introversion / extroversion and determine whether they generate their own energy internally or need to draw it in from external sources.

Introversion

  • May prefer individual tasks that focus on things that interest them or are important to them
  • May show more of a 1 on 1 or intimate focus to socialization
Extroversion

  • May prefer activities that provide external stimuli and/or social interaction
  • May not show any social anxiety preferring a greater amount of social interaction

**Things to be aware of**
  • Pay attention to the extroverted / introverted behaviors shown in scenario 3.
  • Primary Ne with aux Ti or Fi may look more introverted because Ne doesn’t necessarily seek out socialization, just external stimuli which could be something like a book or a movie. For example: This is why ENTP is considered the most introverted of the extroverted types, Primary Ne paired with Auxiliary Ti.
  • The opposite effect can also manifest in auxiliary Fe users as Fe is a very socially extroverted function.

Scenario 6
This scenario is meant to assess the strength of F vs T as well as what is primarily motivating their choice. Be aware of the influence of the inferior function here as well.

Primary T

  • May express more desire for doing things that pertain to analysis and logical thought

Primary F

  • May express more desire for self-expression or focus on affecting people

Aux / Tert F and T

  • May express both motives from above

**Things to be aware of**

  • Combine this with the F / T assessment from scenario 1-4 as well as the introvert / extrovert assessment from scenario 3 and 5
  • Both Fe and Te seek broad external relevance on people and/or society in general, if this desire is expressed try to discern whether it comes from an F or T influence.
  • Fi influence may be trying to champion a specific cause meaning something in there personal experience caused them to put significant value on a certain cause: ex: helping children overcome abuse
  • Ti influence may gravitate more towards individual analytical / logical type work
  • Be aware of possible abstract N / objective S influence on F and T here.
  • At this point you should have a fairly clear idea of introversion / extroversion as well as Fe/Ti vs Fi/Te. Use the key below to logically narrow down possible primary functions and types. You should be able to narrow it down to 2-4 possibilities here.

Introvert w/ Fe-Ti: Primary or Tertiary function could be Ti

  • Strong T influence indicates primary Ti: ISTP / INTP
  • Ambiguous F / T influence indicating auxiliary Fe and tertiary Ti: ISFJ / INFJ

Extrovert w/ Fe-Ti: Primary or Tertiary function could be Fe

  • Strong F influence indicates primary Fe: ESFJ / ENFJ
  • Ambiguous F / T influence indicates auxiliary Ti and tertiary Fe: ESTP / ENTP

Introvert w/ Fi-Te: Primary or Tertiary function could be Fi

  • Strong F influence indicates primary Fi: ISFP / INFP
  • Ambiguous F / T influence indicates auxiliary Te and tertiary Fi: ISTJ / INTJ

Extrovert w/ Fi-Te: Primary or Tertiary function could be Te

  • Strong T influence indicates primary Te: ESTJ / ENTJ
  • Ambiguous F / T influence indicates auxiliary Fi and tertiary Te: ESFP / ENFP


Scenario 7
This is primarily meant to determine the strength of N vs S however you can also tell a lot about F and T from the descriptions used here.


  • T influence: Will take a more analytical approach to interpreting the image
  • F influence: Will describe feelings that the image presents to the individual
  • Se influence: Try to take in the big picture all at once, could express being overwhelmed sensory wise
  • Si influence: May focus on and notice details, color contrast, textures, may also describe physical sensations they would feel if there
  • Ne influence: May express and generate many ideas, concepts, possibilities, patterns in relation to specific details
  • Ni influence: May seek a singular and fundamental meaning behind the image, may also have a desire to explore and see more than what is there and/or imagine what could be

**Things to be aware of**

  • Primary / Inferior combo of F and T implies Auxiliary / Tertiary combo of N and S and vice versa
  • Consider introversion and extroversion in determining primary function possibilities
  • Between Scenario 6 and 7 a dominant function should become clear and you should be able to logically narrow things down to 1 or two possible types.
  • If the strength of S vs N is ambiguous here it could mean primary F or T. Introversion vs Extroversion should tell you which is primary. Attempt to determine Ni / Se or Ne / Si in order to determine exact type
  • If the strength of S vs N is clear it could mean F and T is ambiguous, introversion / extroversion should line up with primary Si / Se or Ni / Ne and thus allow you to determine exact type.

MBTI Type Function Stack Key

Extroverted Sensor:
ESTP: Se – Ti – Fe – Ni
ESTJ: Te – Si – Ne – Fi
ESFP: Se – Fi – Te – Ni
ESFJ: Fe – Si – Ne – Ti

Extroverted Intuitive:
ENTP: Ne – Ti – Fe – Si
ENTJ: Te – Ni – Se – Fi
ENFP: Ne – Fi – Te – Si
ENFJ: Fe – Ni – Se – Ti

Introverted Sensor:
ISTP: Ti – Se – Ni – Fe
ISTJ: Si – Te – Fi – Ne
ISFP: Fi – Se – Ni – Te
ISFJ: Si – Fe – Ti – Ne

Introverted Intuitive:
INTP: Ti – Ne – Si – Fe
INTJ: Ni – Te – Fi – Se
INFP: Fi – Ne – Si – Te
INFJ: Ni – Fe – Ti – Se

 

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SCENARIO 1

FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

Your significant other just ended your 2 year relationship quite suddenly and with no apparent explanation. Up until this point you had both been talking about marriage and last week you even went to look at rings together. Now he/she won't even return your phone calls or texts. After talking with his/her family you find out that he/she has just been diagnosed with terminal stage 4 cancer.


- Describe how this scenario would make you feel as well as what sort of influences and motivations lie behind those feelings. Why do you feel the way you do?

- In this scenario what would you honestly say the primary focus of your feelings would be?
As already said,before finding out he has cancer I'd believe he found out or perhaps realized something about me he doesn't like,I'd definitely assume he's angry or disappointed and deeply enough to not even wanna confront me.
I'd try to get more information any way possible so I could find out what happened and fix it.
After finding out,I'm really not sure,I'd be scared of him dying of course but I'd try to keep him feeling positive and let him know I'm there for him no matter what.
As for primary focus,it really depends,being in a relationship with someone doesn't mean you love each other XD
But assuming we do love each other,my focus would be on wanting him to surviveI don't think I could even imagine him actually dying though.


SCENARIO 2*

FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

You are in college and this semester both you and your roommate end up in the same class together. You and your roommate get along fairly well and the living situation works but you aren't particularly close. You both typically do your own thing and are rather indifferent to each other. As the semester progresses you excel and become one of the top students in the class whereas your roommate is struggling significantly to grasp the material. The professor assigns a fairly challenging take home test that is a significant portion of your grade. He/she makes it clear that while it is open book, students are to work alone. Later your roommate comes to you begging for help after struggling with the test most of the weekend. You have already completed the assignment and he/she isn't asking to copy your answers, just to help tutor and mentor them as they struggle to complete the test, so there is no way your professor would ever know. However, this is the first time your room-mate has asked you for help this semester. He/she makes it clear that how they do on this test could mean the difference between passing and failing this class.


- How do you respond to your roommate’s request and why?

- What sort of things in this scenario stand out to you as far as having a strong influence on your decision making and why?

- Describe the flow of your decision making process.

There's 2 possibilities(each going by assumptations roomate and I have an ok,civilized relationship)-1st possibility-roomate is my dear friend and a nice,grateful person-I help,I'm happy to help,I can't wait for her to get an A
2nd possibility-roomate is an annoying spoiled bitch-I say I'll help but then do it half-assedly making sure me and my other friends all get a better grade than her,then remember that occasion when I helped her to ask for favours later (or if she's too useless for me to need something from her then I just remind her it wasn't her work) XD
Sorry,I can be mean,someone has to be that too :p

Anyway,I'd pay attention on whether she deserves it and what kind of friend she is/what role she plays in the group.I definitely wouldn't pay attention on what professor says,I lied,cheated,copied and ditched my way through high school very successfuly and just helping someone is nothing compared to that lol

SCENARIO 3

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your boss calls you into his/her office in order to assign you to a new project. He/she gives you a choice between two.

Project 1 is a rather broad, expansive project covering multiple areas of company operations. It has the potential to have a very significant impact on company operations but it would require a collective effort and an extensive amount of group work where you would be logically thinking through the project together with the group of individuals your boss has also assigned to it.

Project 2 has a much more specific and narrow focus and would require a significant amount of in depth individual analysis to work through the problem. You would be working alone and the completion of the project may or may not have much impact on company operations. However, after complete the process and problem you were working on will be streamlined and fundamentally understood.


- Which project appeals to you the most, as it relates to the way you prefer to logically process information? Why?

- What sort of things in this scenario, across either project, stood out to you as having a strong influence on your decision? Why?

I like working with people and having a strong impact but I don't believe I'd ever want to waste my energy on some project like that,and doing anything but the 2nd one seems very difficult if job isn't extremely interesting.
To be perfectly honest I want no projects,I just wanna get married XD

SCENARIO 4

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your college professor has assigned you to a group project with 3 other individuals. All 3 of these individuals have a good strong work ethic and desire to contribute to the overall success of this project. You are at the first meeting of your group and the other members are tossing around valuable ideas as to the nature and direction of this project.

- Describe your behavior in this situation as you process and think about the ideas they are presenting.

- Describe what major influences drive this behavior.
I'm very bad at coming up with ideas but I'm much better at fixing and filtering them,so that's what I'd do,I'd try to be nice while correcting them though.I'd also make up an idea now and then because I know people don't take what I do seriously if I don't actually come up with anything(nevermind they are like a group of elementary school children without me:rolleyes:)

SCENARIO 5

FOCUS ON THE SOURCES YOU DRAW NON-PHYSICAL ENERGY FROM HERE

It has been a very long week and you feel mentally and emotionally drained, but good news! It is Saturday and you have nothing significant that needs to be done. You FINALLY have some free time to yourself to recharge your batteries and do whatever you want.


- Describe what sort of activities would help you to recharge. What would you enjoy doing after a long week and why?

- What sort of things do you feel you draw non-physical energy from doing?
S-ish things often with N-ish motivation,I think you remember enough :p

Btw some things give me a huge amount of energy in a second but it doesn't last,if that makes sense.Like,I get energized but it's not some sort of usable energy,it's more like adrenaline rush or something.
For example,I love getting messages,comments,forum replies,thanks,etc.,just the feeling of having x new notifications is amazing XD


SCENARIO 6

FOCUS ON THINKING VS FEELING HERE

You have a meeting with your college career counselor to discuss potential careers that interest you. He/she offers you a list of the following careers and asks you to pick your TOP 3. He/she asks you to take money out of the equation. Imagine all of these careers received equal compensation. Focus instead on where you would truly feel most happy and fulfilled.

Artist, Scientist, Actor, Engineer, Musician, Lawyer, Counselor, Entrepreneur, Teacher, Manager, Psychologist, Computer Programmer / Analyst, Clergy, Child Care, Medical Doctor

- What were your top 3 choices and what aspects of these careers appeal to you?

- Was it difficult or easy to pick only 3 and why?

- Prioritize the aspects of your career choices that influenced your decision, what things mattered most to you, where do you imagine finding the most fulfillment and why?
Something with taking care of little kids,musician,clergy.Weird,I know.
Kids are wonderful(really small ones),musicians(singers?) get to not only perform and be popular but they are also in some cases so loved and adored and make a huge difference in people's lives,they are just such strong influences.
Clergy,I don't know,it just seems like ultimate perfection,basically representing everything certain religion is about.And I'm not even religious.

It would be hard to choose more XD



SCENARIO 7

Click on the image below and pay close attention to the things that jump out to you, objects, thoughts, feelings, impressions, ideas etc. What do you see?


- Describe the main things that stand out to you in this picture.

- Why do you think/feel you focused on those things?

- Describe the strength with which this photo did or did not appeal to you and why?
I didn't realy notice anything at first,like with most pictures,but when I forced myself to see something I noticed the different textures and how they work together in a strange way.
I think I focused on those things because they probably were the main focus of the picture,they just look inviting to the eye.

I just didn't like it,it's not nice looking and it does not make me imagine any kind of different world,doesn't make me wanna be there

@Jinsei :)

gonna look at the key now!
 

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Looked at the key,I just can't make sense of it,it's too late here XD

I really like the changes though!
But then again,it probably doesn't show in the answers because I can't think :p
And sorry for typos if there are any!
 

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@Jinsei So I'm here on the proper thread now, sorry about that. I'll just copy what I wrote before because some of it seems to be translatable and I'll add in all of the new parts within each section and new sections as well. I would really like your personal analysis, and I'll check the key as well. Please do let me know if I need to be more specific in my answers/have any more questions. I'll share what I made of the key as well to aid you Here we go!:

Good to see ya. So a new experiment--cool. I'll gladly participate. Especially seeing as I have yet to reach a conclusion regarding my type, if you are actually onto something with this scenario-based method I would no doubt be stoked. BTW, if you don't mind me prying, I noticed that you now are listed as 'unknown personality'. What led to this newfound(at least to me) uncertainty and ambiguity? Before I get onto the responses, I'd like to request that you keep in mind the role that aspergers plays in my life and how it might impact my type. Anywho, here are my responses:

NEW Scenario 7:

The very first thing I noticed was the magnitude of that rock structure, and I admired how much notably bigger it was than the cluster of trees below. Then, I began to wonder what was around the corner, and then I looked at the water to try and figure out which way it was flowing. My eyes then drifted to a darkened part on the far right corner. I thought about if it was another section of the river or an entrance to a cave or merely a shadow. Then, I saw all the light shining down on the cave and wondered what was above. I have the urge to be there and meander around like an adventurer or even just chill.

Scenario 1:

- The primary focus of my feelings is just that--understanding and sorting through my feelings. I've always done rash and volatile things because of my rarely shown but explosive "ticking bomb" feelings many times before, and I want to be able to understand and contain them better. In this scenario, my feelings motivated me to do what was in her best interests, as she was in more of a priority than myself because of her cancer. I wanted her to die in peace. At first, I was immensely angered. How incredibly disrespectful! After I found out, I at first became rather sympathetic. My first thought was I should go check in on her. Then I thought about the reasons for her not telling me, and decided it would be best to act like I didn't find out. After that was over, I pondered on what I could take from this event. Yes--never be so quick to assume. As for the location of these feelings, I'd say on the center of my back. It's so hard to reach..and grasp. In fact, I debated quitting this questionnaire and deleting this post, because I was so frustrated with feeling inept & elementary/childish in my responses to this. Onto 2.

Scenario 2:

- Outwardly, I would say give me a minute to consider this and get back to you. Then I drift off in my mind: Hmm, an interesting predicament. At the end of the day, I'd have to say no to my roommate though. "Students are to work alone," lingers in my mind. While I was tempted when I heard it was to not copy answers but study, it still doesn't feel right. They could've asked earlier if they had a genuine interest or passion for accumulating knowledge on this topic/wanting to get better marks. Once I'm done thinking and have a justification/plan I'll go get him/her and tell them my response: "No, I cannot help you. It would be going against what the professor said, and it just doesn't feel right to me. Besides, I'm much too busy. Why don't you look up some resources online to study?" I've been sitting here for a few minutes imagining this and what would be best to do, but all that comes to my mind is hmm. I'm displeased with my overall response here, but that's the best I could whip up. It is time to move on to #3 lest I become stuck in a loop of over-analysis.

Scenario 3:

- Let me think about this for a moment. I'd at this moment be inclined to choose Problem #2. This is for the independence and individual fundamental understanding that would be gained. I would also gain a feeling of use in this society by providing others with this understanding via 'streamlining' it. However, I'd definitely be ok with Problem #1 as well. While I am incredibly anti-social, I greatly like to gather opinions and hear out everybody's thought processes towards brainstorming, problem-solving, etc. I absolutely crave that. If I could observe and not contribute first-hand to the debate myself, that would be preferable. The major things that influenced my decision was the isolation and effectiveness. Imagine if everybody was doing stuff like that, things'd get done a lot quicker.

OLD Scenario 4, NEW SCENARIO 5:

- Now this is my kind of scenario. I feel I gain a non-physical charge from brain teasers, riddles, and puzzles--things of that nature. I like stuff that messes with my brain, and gets me to think differently and approach problems from all angles. Also, being creative and coming up with stuff in my imagination and making things out of it--pictures, papers, games, etc. I would also read about a topic I am interested in(currently Philosophy!), work through what's new that I've learned in my book, and try forming a good opinion or analysis about it. I also would at some point indubitably play video games. Preferably madden, because that is my favorite. I like to experiment with plays and assemble fantasy rosters.

NEW Scenario 4:

I would quietly focus intently on their suggestions, and then judge if it makes sense. I'd start by imagining said proposal in action, and how it would work. I would bring up any issues I find with it to the group and perhaps share some of my own after I have a lengthy amount of time to think through them.

OLD Scenario 5, NEW Scenario 6:

- It was fairly easy to select three because I have a clear picture of what I want to do, but I am genuinely interested in about 75% of these fields, and would want to learn about them for curiosity's sake. I selected Scientist, Engineer, and Teacher. What motivated me to choose these three was that scientist and teacher contribute towards giving people a greater understanding of the universe/s. Engineer for its practical application of theory/ideas I have. I could combine my engineering studies with my inventive nature to whip up some awesome test stuff--think Da Vinci. None are primarily appealing though, I want to be a philosophy professor when I age. That seems to fit a niche right in-between these two categories. Nevertheless, if I had to choose, I'd pick category 2. Engineering sounds rather intriguing, and science is always fun. Perhaps an analyst as well. Artistry/Psychology also sounds cool, though. Category 2 is more appealing because it's overall focus aligns more with mine, gaining a complete understanding of everything. It was difficult, because what I want to pursue wasn't in one.

OLD Scenario 6:

- I would want to talk about philosophy, video gaming strategies, drawing, roleplaying, science, animals, and whatever else I can't currently think of! I'm not sure what specifically encapsulates my interest for these topics..perhaps an unyielding sense of inquisitiveness? IDK.

Scenario 7:

- I would choose Course of Action #1. It seems flat-out unintelligent to go with option 2. It is worth the risk for sure to find a new, way more effective process. What influenced me to make this decision was the glistening temptation of finding an uber-effective way of doing this and also thinking about one of my idols' tesla and how I could mimic him. His words regarding Edison and the needle in the haystack appear in my mind. I could have a much more effective way of doing things if I were to go down option 1.

So we've reached the end, hooray. I'm eager to hear your interpretation of my responses. - Jack
 

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SCENARIO 1

FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

Your significant other just ended your 2 year relationship quite suddenly and with no apparent explanation. Up until this point you had both been talking about marriage and last week you even went to look at rings together. Now he/she won't even return your phone calls or texts. After talking with his/her family you find out that he/she has just been diagnosed with terminal stage 4 cancer.

- Describe how this scenario would make you feel as well as what sort of influences and motivations lie behind those feelings. Why do you feel the way you do?
At first I'd feel very confused. I'd be shell shocked. But after finding out the reason from his family, I'd feel overwhelmed. I might not know where exactly to start. But I'd continue to try and find ways to reach out to my SO in hopes to help him get through this. I wouldn't want him to be alone in this, or without me at least. I'd be persistent in getting him to respond to me so we could figure this out together.

- In this scenario what would you honestly say the primary focus of your feelings would be? I'd definitely be concerned about my SO's well being and helping him get through this. But it'd be derived from also wanting to satisfy my own need of being there for him. It's a mix of both wanting to help him and satisfy myself. Basic instinct, I guess.





SCENARIO 2

FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

You are in college and this semester both you and your roommate end up in the same class together. You and your roommate get along fairly well and the living situation works but you aren't particularly close. You both typically do your own thing and are rather indifferent to each other. As the semester progresses you excel and become one of the top students in the class whereas your roommate is struggling significantly to grasp the material. The professor assigns a fairly challenging take home test that is a significant portion of your grade. He/she makes it clear that while it is open book, students are to work alone. Later your roommate comes to you begging for help after struggling with the test most of the weekend. You have already completed the assignment and he/she isn't asking to copy your answers, just to help tutor and mentor them as they struggle to complete the test, so there is no way your professor would ever know. However, this is the first time your room-mate has asked you for help this semester. He/she makes it clear that how they do on this test could mean the difference between passing and failing this class.

- How do you respond to your roommate’s request and why?
I'd help them as much as I could. Regardless of whatever the teacher said, it wouldn't make sense if all I'm doing is helping them and not straight up giving them the answers.

- What sort of things in this scenario stand out to you as far as having a strong influence on your decision making and why? The fact that whether my friend fails or passes due to my willingness to help would be a big factor. I wouldn't say it necessarily feels like my responsibility, but like I said before, it wouldn't make sense to not tutor them some if I knew the material and it was between failing/passing the class for them.

- Describe the flow of your decision making process. They need help. I can provide said help. Teacher doesn't have to know. ?????? What else is there?






SCENARIO 3

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your boss calls you into his/her office in order to assign you to a new project. He/she gives you a choice between two.

Project 1 is a rather broad, expansive project covering multiple areas of company operations. It has the potential to have a very significant impact on company operations but it would require a collective effort and an extensive amount of group work where you would be logically thinking through the project together with the group of individuals your boss has also assigned to it.

Project 2 has a much more specific and narrow focus and would require a significant amount of in depth individual analysis to work through the problem. You would be working alone and the completion of the project may or may not have much impact on company operations. However, after complete the process and problem you were working on will be streamlined and fundamentally understood.

- Which project appeals to you the most, as it relates to the way you prefer to logically process information? Why?
Project 2. Things I can work out in a specific manner without having to focus on more than one thing are better suited to my abilities. Working in groups can be a bit stressful, and working alone means I have my own task and know exactly what it is I'm doing, so regardless of the difficulty of said task- it turns out to be easier for me and something I'd be more inclined to accept.

- What sort of things in this scenario, across either project, stood out to you as having a strong influence on your decision? Why? Working alone and only having one specific task to work through instead of a broad area of tasks.






SCENARIO 4

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your college professor has assigned you to a group project with 3 other individuals. All 3 of these individuals have a good strong work ethic and desire to contribute to the overall success of this project. You are at the first meeting of your group and the other members are tossing around valuable ideas as to the nature and direction of this project.

- Describe your behavior in this situation as you process and think about the ideas they are presenting.
I'd be evaluating all of their ideas internally. I'd probably have very little to say and let everyone work everything out, while quietly understanding what was going on and how I'd be incorporated into the project.

- Describe what major influences drive this behavior. I prefer working quietly and without imposing on other's ideas unless their ideas are clearly stupid--in which case I'd probably say something. But unless I had an idea I knew would bring something to the table, I prefer to work with others and apply myself in ways I'm better at.








SCENARIO 5

FOCUS ON THE SOURCES YOU DRAW NON-PHYSICAL ENERGY FROM HERE

It has been a very long week and you feel mentally and emotionally drained, but good news! It is Saturday and you have nothing significant that needs to be done. You FINALLY have some free time to yourself to recharge your batteries and do whatever you want.

- Describe what sort of activities would help you to recharge. What would you enjoy doing after a long week and why?
Sleeping or sitting at home watching TV/on the internet or reading. Maybe going out by myself and walking around places. I'd be fine going to hang out with a person or two at a time, but no groups. It really depends on who I'd be going out with, too.

- What sort of things do you feel you draw non-physical energy from doing? Being in situations that don't require a lot from me social cues wise. If I have to consistently participate in some way in a group or with people, that's draining. So just avoiding that will help me get some of that lost energy back.










SCENARIO 6

FOCUS ON THINKING VS FEELING HERE

You have a meeting with your college career counselor to discuss potential careers that interest you. He/she offers you a list of the following careers and asks you to pick your TOP 3. He/she asks you to take money out of the equation. Imagine all of these careers received equal compensation. Focus instead on where you would truly feel most happy and fulfilled.

Artist, Scientist, Actor, Engineer, Musician, Lawyer, Counselor, Entrepreneur, Teacher, Manager, Psychologist, Computer Programmer / Analyst, Clergy, Child Care, Medical Doctor

- What were your top 3 choices and what aspects of these careers appeal to you?
Artist - Being able to creatively express myself and get money out of it? Hell yeah. Actor - Again with the self expression. I'd be able to act out personas but go home and still be the same person outside of those roles. It might be sort of tiring after a fashion, though. Psychologist - Anything to do with Psychology, Sociology, Culture/etc interests me. So to be able to work in this specific area would be interesting to say the least. Probably a bit of a challenge.

- Was it difficult or easy to pick only 3 and why? Easy. I know what I like and what I don't like. I'm not going to focus on something I might not like since the possibility of me not liking it is there for a reason. I'm not a big chance taker.

- Prioritize the aspects of your career choices that influenced your decision, what things mattered most to you, where do you imagine finding the most fulfillment and why? Being content in my career is important to me. If I dread going to work every day, then it's not for me. I can't do something I hate for an extended period of time and be happy.















SCENARIO 7

Click on the image below and pay close attention to the things that jump out to you, objects, thoughts, feelings, impressions, ideas etc. What do you see?


- Describe the main things that stand out to you in this picture.
The way the light sets really calming tones to the trees and front part of the cave(?). It's calming. But the darker part of the picture is a bit eerie--almost the exact opposite of the brighter side of the picture.

- Why do you think/feel you focused on those things? How can I not be focused on those things? I guess I see the picture as a whole first, and then see details. But even the details I see are somewhat broad. I'm not paying too much attention to things like the ripples in the water or how many trees there are. Things like the light interest me, and the coloring.

- Describe the strength with which this photo did or did not appeal to you and why? It's a nice picture. I like it enough. It's calming yet eerie at the same time. I wouldn't say it's amazing or anything, though.
 
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@visionaryjack thanks for taking the time to repost here, very considerate of you! I was going to try and answer you in the other thread, but I'm glad you answered the new questions too.

Scenario 1: The ticking bomb description as well as a desire to understand your feelings / possible confusion towards your own feelings seems very indicative of inferior Fe to me. Very much like Te likes to externalize the logical thinking process and often needs external influence to help organize thoughts... Fe, especially tertiary or inferior operates in much the same way. If unable to externalize the internal feelings build up without being fully sorted through and processed... when enough emotional pressure builds... it can boil over and explode like a volcano. I in no way felt your feelings were inept or childish though.

Scenario 2: Begining to wonder about sensing Fe in scenario 1... this seems much more likely to have an Fi influence however your reasoning seems to have a heavy analytical aspect to it so I'm wondering if introversion and ausbergers has an influence here. You do mention more than once that it doesn't "feel" right to you though which could be indicative of Fi.

Scenario 3: Here I am initially getting Ti especially when you mention finding value in reaching a fundamental understanding on the individual project. Looking at the second half that could be very indicative of Ne instead of Te. Ne loves getting fed external stimuli in order to get the creative juices flowing.

New Scenario 4: Definitely getting strong Ti here and a possible Ne influence as well. After the first 4 I am leaning towards Ti / Fe.

New Scenario 5: I think we know you are pretty introverted, sensing a bit of an Ne influence here as well in your varying interests and love of things that externally stimulate imagination and brain twisting perspectives.

New Scenario 6: Clear T and N influence in career choices

Old Scenario 6 and 7: Definitely abstract utilitarian focus but I think we already have established that you are NT

New Scenario 7: We already know you are N over S and I am really getting an Ne / Si flavor to what you describe. Si is picking up and shifting between specific details but diverse Ne imagination, questions, possibilities, and connections are definitely driving here.

So all of that leads me to INTP with Ti - Ne - Si - Fe in that order. This honestly in conjunction with autism would explain a lot. As I mentioned before... one of the things I have discoverd from all of the feedback I have gotten is that Ne doesn't necessarily need "social" stimulation... just "external" stimulation. This could be in the form of books, tv shows, puzzles, brainteasers, video games, etc. The creativity and idea generation I get from you seems very broad, expansive, and shifting... connecting dots between lots of varying and diverse themes.

Also, what you described about feelings being a ticking bomb seems very much to point towards inferior Fe for me. I have the same problem sometimes even being auxiliary Fe. I would imagine the effect could be even more drastic with tertiary or inferior Fe. As far as relieving the emotional pressure that builds up, talking through your feelings with someone who understands you need that in order to process and understand them would be very helpful but if that stirs too much social anxiety for you I would suggest finding a different way to externalize and organize them such as journaling. Socialization isn't truly necessary, you just need to externally feed your feelings back to yourself. Journaling may help you relieve the emotional pressure before it builds too much, help you process, understand, and organize your feelings, and possibly even help give you the courage to address those feelings with any individuals they may be directed towards.

Anyway, it's great to hear from you again Jack and I really hope this helps! Can't wait to hear what you think!

Oh! Amost forgot about to answer your question! No I am not doubting my type at all. I just wanted to hide the info while I was experimenting and developing this test.
 

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Looked at the key,I just can't make sense of it,it's too late here XD

I really like the changes though!
But then again,it probably doesn't show in the answers because I can't think :p
And sorry for typos if there are any!
Going back over your answers and what we have already discussed, I really think ENFJ (Fe - Ni - Se - Ti) is a pretty good fit for you. Is there something about the type that rubs you the wrong way or doesn't feel like it fits to you?
 

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@perpetuallyreticent Thanks for taking the test! Have any thoughts about yourself based on the key? Seems like you are inconclusive between N and S for yourself based on your signature.

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Reading through your answers is interesting because it seems a little like Fe / Ti but it honestly could go either way.

Scenario 1 - could be either Fe or Fi here... possibly Fi

Scenario 2 - seems like maybe Fe but unsure.

Scenario 3 - seems like Ti but could be influenced by Fi / Ni with inferior Te feeling overwhelmed at the prospect of a large expansive project.

Scenario 4 - seems like maybe Ti but you talk a lot about ideas which leads me to an Fi / Ni influence

Scenario 5 - introvert

Scenario 6 - getting clear Fi in the decision making here

Scenario 7 - I am definitely getting Se / Ni fairly close in strength here, so an aux / tert pairing fits. Trying to take in the whole image first is very Se and Ni is clearly feeding you fundamental ideas and concepts that describe the abstract elements of the image as a whole.

Seems like ISFP is right on for you - Fi Se Ni Te
 

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@Jinsei Thanks much for the speedy response. Indeed INTP has been one of the main considerations for quite some time, so your conclusion isn't terribly shocking to me. I needn't really be sold on the merits of having high Ne. I used to view it as not really a significant part of my psyche, but honestly I was ill-informed at that time. I am even open to and considering ENTP to a degree. INTP seems to be my best overall fit withal but N-dominance. I have always viewed that as my most likely dominant function type, holding imagination and inquisitiveness above all else including logical validity. That being said, Ti describes my entirety pretty much 90+% accurately. Also, a lot of people around here seem to think I have high Ni, so that has been perhaps dissuading me and muddling my perceptions. Anywho, great to hear this from ya. Thanks for the advice on coping with low-tier Fe, BTW. Seems like a great idea. This analysis could be just what I need to finally conclude my type. I can't write anymore now though, as it is unfortunately my bedtime. Be seeing ya. - Jack
 

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@Jinsei Thanks much for the speedy response. Indeed INTP has been one of the main considerations for quite some time, so your conclusion isn't terribly shocking to me. I needn't really be sold on the merits of having high Ne. I used to view it as not really a significant part of my psyche, but honestly I was ill-informed at that time. I am even open to and considering ENTP to a degree. INTP seems to be my best overall fit withal but N-dominance. I have always viewed that as my most likely dominant function type, holding imagination and inquisitiveness above all else including logical validity. That being said, Ti describes my entirety pretty much 90+% accurately. Also, a lot of people around here seem to think I have high Ni, so that has been perhaps dissuading me and muddling my perceptions. Anywho, great to hear this from ya. Thanks for the advice on coping with low-tier Fe, BTW. Seems like a great idea. This analysis could be just what I need to finally conclude my type. I can't write anymore now though, as it is unfortunately my bedtime. Be seeing ya. - Jack
No problem and I'm so happy I could help! I remember talking about Ni a lot with you and others who were trying to help identify your type however the very singular and deep focus of Ti plus your very introverted nature could possibly be causing people to mistake Ne for Ni. Both accomplish much the same thing as far as generating ideas however Ni typically has a much more singular and narrow focus on one particular possibility or abstract concept at a time. Ne is typically a shot gun blast of all sorts of possibilities, concepts, patterns , connections etc. Strong logical Ti too would drive the desire to focus on one thing and logically break it down to a fundamental understanding. I have honestly always admired Ne for it's incredible ability to generate possibilities and to have the focus of Ti paired with the power of Ne... would be pretty cool in my opinion.

Anyway, I really hope the techniques in dealing with Fe help! Let me know how it works out for you!
 

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Here we go, I havent done any typing test for a while :tongue:

SCENARIO 1

please god, lemme not be in this kinda situation ever in my life :crying:

I cant answer :frustrating:

SCENARIO 2

I think I'd help him. Although it depends on the vibe I had got from him, if he is a lazy ass who is just "needing" me, I'll tutor him to some wrong answers.

SCENARIO 3

In depth analysis meant to be done alone ? :frustrating:
Sounds like torture, I'd chose Project 1 even if I consider myself introverted.

SCENARIO 4

I'd feel lucky to have such group members. I'd probably take a step back and let them do organizing and thinking stuff and be lazy unless I see problems with their thinking or direction the project. I'd still do my part with the (almost) best as I can.

SCENARIO 5

I'd be at home, playing video games and watchig TV while lying on bed. :kitteh:
It helps if its a sunny day then I'd go out and have a walk. Meet up with some friends maybe.
I think friendly group settings and a good atmosphere is giving me motivation to talk more/energy. Also, intriguing storylines in games/movies and I imagine myself in that and be excited about that.

SCENARIO 6

Actor, entrepeneur, manager (just ahead of artist/musician)
I like the fact that they are active jobs, especially the first 2 and so they are easy to chose. Not sure about being a manager, I just picked it up because I dont think I have good artistic or musical abilities.
On a second thought I may have preferred scientist (sth to do with plants) over manager as well. Its because I like nature. :happy:

The first two was easy but hard to decide on 3rd. Two of the most important aspects of jobs for me; they should be fast-paced, relatively easy and be outdoors as possible as it can be. :kitteh:

SCENARIO 7

The striking contrast between shadows and sunlight. The rock formation is sth to look at, it looks fascinating. I want to go and experience that place, take pictures and wander around in a boat.
Then the trees, umm, they kinda look outta place almost photoshopped. I'd guess this place to have a cold climate and this picture being taken in winter time. Oh and I love sunny days in winter. Warmth of sunlight in contrast to cold tempature. Its just .. good :happy:

I was focused on these thigs because ... err.. they were there ? I'd give this picture a 8, a very good looking scenery.

Edit : Looked at key, seems like I'm sorta sensor and then nothing to gon on from lol. Maybe eSxx?
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Going back over your answers and what we have already discussed, I really think ENFJ (Fe - Ni - Se - Ti) is a pretty good fit for you. Is there something about the type that rubs you the wrong way or doesn't feel like it fits to you?
Looked at the key again and it makes sense,I know I do sound like a sensor a bit but Se dom/aux is out of question imo and I'm fairly certain I use Ni and Se with Ni and Se being close to each other.ENFJ makes sense,but descriptions are a bit too dramatic,I'm not that social,I just enjoy social atmosphere and obviously care about relationships as well as how I'm seen,who I am to others,etc. but I'm not sociable in some ways.I just really dislike many people,tbh sometimes it's like no one is good enough for me XD
I mean,not literally no one but I'll be talking to a person or group and actually spend lots of time with them but secretly thinking "OMG,why am I even talking to you,please be aware of how lucky you are I'm talking to you" XD
I also feel like my Ti is strong but people are often going on about how my Ti is inferior,so I don't know,maybe I just use it a lot but in a way that makes it inferior Ti?
 

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No problem and I'm so happy I could help! I remember talking about Ni a lot with you and others who were trying to help identify your type however the very singular and deep focus of Ti plus your very introverted nature could possibly be causing people to mistake Ne for Ni. Both accomplish much the same thing as far as generating ideas however Ni typically has a much more singular and narrow focus on one particular possibility or abstract concept at a time. Ne is typically a shot gun blast of all sorts of possibilities, concepts, patterns , connections etc. Strong logical Ti too would drive the desire to focus on one thing and logically break it down to a fundamental understanding. I have honestly always admired Ne for it's incredible ability to generate possibilities and to have the focus of Ti paired with the power of Ne... would be pretty cool in my opinion.

Anyway, I really hope the techniques in dealing with Fe help! Let me know how it works out for you!
Everybody seems to want the things they don't have in regards to this theory--I'm quite envious of sensors for their pragmatism and attention to detail personally. I've exhausted tons of resources on gathering data about aspie people's types and honestly a good at least 80% is INTJ. With the other 10%s being INTP and ISTP/INFJ. My analysis of the key was much aligned with yours, so I don't really feel the need to post it. However, I did get a larger role of Te in mine. That was about the only difference. Anywho, I'm immensely glad to hear we are on the same page, as you are one of the people I trust the most to type *people* lol. I'd want to hear what StunnedFox makes of this and if we reach a consensus I'll confidently assert my type. I'll just do it via PM though to avoid clogging the thread. Best of luck in the experiments, though. I'll be sure to rate it. I may stop by later and critique it as well. :p - Jack
 

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Looking at scenario 1-4... its hard to say conclusively due to the lack of info lol... but I'm leaning towards Te / Fi.

Scenario 5: I wouldn't necessarily say introvert or extrovert... could go either way honestly. Your social setting is a bit more intimate but it sounds like you would get energized by being around close friends and talking about things that interest you.

Scenario 6: Going with a possible T over F influence here but I'm uncertain... could be motivatied by Fi as well. Possible aux / tert combo.

Scenario 7: Definitely getting Si honing in on specific details however I am sensing an Ne influence too in generating possibilities... you may not even be aware of it. Why do you say it is possibly taken in winter... I suspect I know but do you realize why that idea dropped into your head? You are the first to mention the possibility of winter here and just before I read you message I was looking at the photo and thinking the same thing. Lots of people notice the trees behind the evergreens and assume they are dead... but I was thinking to myself, why do they assume that? It could just be winter... or winter transitioning into spring in this photo.

Anyway, getting strong Si but still with the inferior maybe even subconscious influence of Ne. ISTJ fits pretty well... I might be inclined to say ESTJ because both Si and Ne seemed pretty clear... and there is the possibility of you being an extrovert. Not sure if the difference in strength between Te and Fi is that much to warrant a primary / inferior combo however.

ISTJ or ESTJ is my guess
 

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Everybody seems to want the things they don't have in regards to this theory--I'm quite envious of sensors for their pragmatism and attention to detail personally. I've exhausted tons of resources on gathering data about aspie people's types and honestly a good at least 80% is INTJ. With the other 10%s being INTP and ISTP/INFJ. My analysis of the key was much aligned with yours, so I don't really feel the need to post it. However, I did get a larger role of Te in mine. That was about the only difference. Anywho, I'm immensely glad to hear we are on the same page, as you are one of the people I trust the most to type *people* lol. I'd want to hear what StunnedFox makes of this and if we reach a consensus I'll confidently assert my type. I'll just do it via PM though to avoid clogging the thread. Best of luck in the experiments, though. I'll be sure to rate it. I may stop by later and critique it as well. :p - Jack
Thanks Jack! You honor me! That is interesting data on the typical types of people with aspie. I suppose INTJ could very well be a possibility however I'm still leaning much more towards INTP... more factors seemt to fit there in my opinion. I'm very curious to hear other's takes on it too so don't feel bad posting more on this thread. I'm also curious as to where you saw Te come out in your responses... just incase my perspective is off or overlooking it somehow.
 

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Answers 3 and 4 are new(ish).

1. Fi, strong empathy for partner because I care deeply for them

2. Fi, "Why not? I see no harm in it."

3. The first time around, I was influenced by my introversion and perfectionism. This time I'm going to factor that out and focus on the project. Although I like in-depth analysis and controlling my own work, I would ultimately have to go with the first project because it has an actual outcome. The second project is more about research for the sake of research. That can satisfy me in an academic setting, but I don't see the payoff in a work setting. (Te)

4. First of all, I would feel relieved that my group is actively participating and bouncing ideas around. It's true that I like taking control of my work, but I don't like having an entire project on my shoulders knowing other people can help. In this scenario, I would contribute my own ideas or build on what others are saying. I would like to contribute something to the project instead of sitting around quietly. If someone has a strong background in something I'm unfamiliar with, I would ask them to explain their ideas to the group. That way, we would all have a sense of what the project is going to be. It would be best to divide the work according to our strengths and agree on a research method, formatting, ways to communicate, etc. (Te...?)

5. Introverted

6. Fi (psychology, counseling) and Te (scientist, engineer)

7. You determined Ne/Si.

Your scoring key leads me to ISTJ. You said you didn't think I was primary Si; maybe I'm on my way to exploring Ne. Interpretation welcome.

Just wanted to leave feedback :)
 

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SCENARIO 1


FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

Your significant other just ended your 2 year relationship quite suddenly and with no apparent explanation. Up until this point you had both been talking about marriage and last week you even went to look at rings together. Now he/she won't even return your phone calls or texts. After talking with his/her family you find out that he/she has just been diagnosed with terminal stage 4 cancer.

- Describe how this scenario would make you feel as well as what sort of influences and motivations lie behind those feelings. Why do you feel the way you do?

I'd feel devastated. I'd probably start with a sinking feeling in my chest, then have to hold back tears, because it's not fair for me to be upset when I'm not the one suffering with this. I'd want to go and see them, to try and help them and support them, but be torn because it would be easier to let them shut me out. I think I'd feel like I had a responsibility and a need to see it through to the end. I wouldn't want to abndon someone I cared so deeply for that I stayed with them for that long.

- In this scenario what would you honestly say the primary focus of your feelings would be?


My feelings would be focused on myself and them, then vaguely on their family/friends. I'd feel terrible for them to have to hear such horrible news, upset in myself for being unable to change the outcome and feel sorry for the family who have to watch their loved one die.

SCENARIO 2

FOCUS ON YOUR FEELING PROCESS HERE

You are in college and this semester both you and your roommate end up in the same class together. You and your roommate get along fairly well and the living situation works but you aren't particularly close. You both typically do your own thing and are rather indifferent to each other. As the semester progresses you excel and become one of the top students in the class whereas your roommate is struggling significantly to grasp the material. The professor assigns a fairly challenging take home test that is a significant portion of your grade. He/she makes it clear that while it is open book, students are to work alone. Later your roommate comes to you begging for help after struggling with the test most of the weekend. You have already completed the assignment and he/she isn't asking to copy your answers, just to help tutor and mentor them as they struggle to complete the test, so there is no way your professor would ever know. However, this is the first time your room-mate has asked you for help this semester. He/she makes it clear that how they do on this test could mean the difference between passing and failing this class.


- How do you respond to your roommate’s request and why?
I'd offer to explain the general subject, but I wouldn't tell them anything about the test. I don't agree with cheating generally, because you don't learn anything just by taking someone else's ideas. I'd be annoyed they didn't ask before and so led to this negative situation. I feel I kind of had to help them in some way because I had the advantage, but also wouldn't want to becaus eI'd put in the time and effort and they didn't.

- What sort of things in this scenario stand out to you as far as having a strong influence on your decision making and why?

I think the fact that they had to chance to ask me for help before and didn't, but waited until the last minute. It seems selfish of them, becaus eI'd need to work hard for the test too and they want my time to be spent helping them catch up when they didn't work. If they HAD worked hard and still not understood I'd be a lot more sympathetic and try and explain everything to them.

- Describe the flow of your decision making process.


Along the lines of: Why didn't they ask me for help sooner? How hard have they worked? Do I have time to help them as well as maintaining my grades? How close am I to them? How much should I invest in helping them?


SCENARIO 3

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your boss calls you into his/her office in order to assign you to a new project. He/she gives you a choice between two.

Project 1 is a rather broad, expansive project covering multiple areas of company operations. It has the potential to have a very significant impact on company operations but it would require a collective effort and an extensive amount of group work where you would be logically thinking through the project together with the group of individuals your boss has also assigned to it.

Project 2 has a much more specific and narrow focus and would require a significant amount of in depth individual analysis to work through the problem. You would be working alone and the completion of the project may or may not have much impact on company operations. However, after complete the process and problem you were working on will be streamlined and fundamentally understood.


- Which project appeals to you the most, as it relates to the way you prefer to logically process information? Why?

The second project because I get to work alone. I really don't like group work. I like to be able to go in depth with ideas, explore them thoroughly and spot things within the narrow field people may have missed (I actually did a project like that recently, working on a few mutant plant lines to increase seed yields and found it very enjoyable. I worked alone for the majority of the time, worked at my own pace, wasn't monitored at all, kept very detailed notes of what I found and thought about and took a lot of pictures to remind myself of important things).

- What sort of things in this scenario, across either project, stood out to you as having a strong influence on your decision? Why?

Working alone is important to me, as I like to see my own work become something, rather than a collective effort. I enjoy examining every aspect of a project in detail to see how it all works and what affects what else. I tend to find projects involving both research and practical work very rewarding. I don't mind if my project doesn't amount to much, but would prefer it to have some kind of impact (why do something when you don't learn anything or produce anything? You need to gain something).
SCENARIO 4

FOCUS ON YOUR LOGIC AND THINKING PROCESS HERE

Your college professor has assigned you to a group project with 3 other individuals. All 3 of these individuals have a good strong work ethic and desire to contribute to the overall success of this project. You are at the first meeting of your group and the other members are tossing around valuable ideas as to the nature and direction of this project.

- Describe your behavior in this situation as you process and think about the ideas they are presenting.

I'd write them all down, categorize them into different sections of the project and such. I would allow all the ideas to come into my mind and then filter them against the project guidelines. I have a habit of being a little bit biased and if I love an idea I'll do my best to make it fit into the project, but generally I'd want the idea that worked best.

- Describe what major influences drive this behavior.

I don't like to go off topic with work. I like exploring ideas in my own time, but with a project I like to focus on where we're going with it. I'll happily think about 'useless' things when there's not pressure, but in this case I would want to produce results that I deemed acceptable. I like to make sure the group is working smoothly, that people all get a say, but that only the very best ideas are chosen.

SCENARIO 5

FOCUS ON THE SOURCES YOU DRAW NON-PHYSICAL ENERGY FROM HERE

It has been a very long week and you feel mentally and emotionally drained, but good news! It is Saturday and you have nothing significant that needs to be done. You FINALLY have some free time to yourself to recharge your batteries and do whatever you want.


- Describe what sort of activities would help you to recharge. What would you enjoy doing after a long week and why?

I'd try and sleep in until after 8am (a lie in for me). I'd then get up and do my usual routine of lifting weights, getting washed and clean, having breakfast etc. I'd then play some games with the TV on in the background (probably on a documentary channel). After a while I'd take a break, go for a long walk outside in a natural area (I live near a nature reserve so like to go there often). I'd then come home, have lunch and read or study for a while (I find studying can be relaxing at my own pace). Later I'd probably go out again to the shops to get food for dinner, go home and make dinner and watch a documentary or a good TV show. I would then play more video games, have supper, and then read in bed before going to sleep. I usually have my laptop near me and on a lot of the time when I'm not really using it much just in case I need to look something up.

- What sort of things do you feel you draw non-physical energy from doing?

Reading really good stories, drawing, listening to music, learning things (either from books, TV or the internet etc). Sometimes I do get energy from good online conversations or with friends in real life.
SCENARIO 6

FOCUS ON THINKING VS FEELING HERE

You have a meeting with your college career counselor to discuss potential careers that interest you. He/she offers you a list of the following careers and asks you to pick your TOP 3. He/she asks you to take money out of the equation. Imagine all of these careers received equal compensation. Focus instead on where you would truly feel most happy and fulfilled.

Artist, Scientist, Actor, Engineer, Musician, Lawyer, Counselor, Entrepreneur, Teacher, Manager, Psychologist, Computer Programmer / Analyst, Clergy, Child Care, Medical Doctor

- What were your top 3 choices and what aspects of these careers appeal to you?

Scientist (what I'm aiming for at the moment), Computer programmer, Actor.

- Was it difficult or easy to pick only 3 and why?

It was fairly easy. I used to be very unsure what I wanted to do with my future, but once I decided on becoming a scientist I became very set on it and now can't think of doing anything else! I thought computer programmer because I have a deep interest in how computers work (I'd like to be able to programme and build one at some point). I think my interest in computers came from me breaking loads of them when I was younger (including blowing one up) and I like to learn how to stop making mistakes. With actor, it seems random, but I find pretending to be someone or something I'm not very satisfying. It's interesting to change everything about yourself and see reactions.


- Prioritize the aspects of your career choices that influenced your decision, what things mattered most to you, where do you imagine finding the most fulfillment and why?

I have a big interest in science because of the fact it allows me to understand the deeper meanings behind things. I like to know how everything works and WHY. (I actually had a tutor who said I would find learning hard because I have to know everything about the subject in order to be able to communicate my knowledge well). I like to see empirical evidence, but also the theory behind it, so biology is a good subject for me (I get to study philosophy of science and do physical projects).
With computers, I find them a challenge and that's something I really enjoy. I like to be tested and struggle in order to learn things (I enjoy maths because of this. I'm terrible at it, but feel very rewarded solving any of it because of that). It's also quite practical nowadays to be able to look after your own technology (I've spent hours onto technicians who know less about computers than I do, which made me want to be independent from them even more).
With acting, it's an exploration of the self and a test on my ability to change and adapt. I find change can be hard, but do enjoy it because of it. I like pushing myself most of the time.



SCENARIO 7

Click on the image below and pay close attention to the things that jump out to you, objects, thoughts, feelings, impressions, ideas etc. What do you see?




- Describe the main things that stand out to you in this picture.

I immediately thought of the third Indianna Jones film. I noticed the water, because it doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the image. The greenery also struck me as out of place.

- Why do you think/feel you focused on those things?

Probably because they didn't seem to fit well with what was there. Big dry looking cliffs with a sprig of green and a pool of water in the middle seems strange (but then I'm from the UK and we don't see stuff like that much). The Indianna Jones bit was because I know those films too well and it looked like part of one of the scenes.

- Describe the strength with which this photo did or did not appeal to you and why?

It was fairly appealing because it's something very different to what I experience daily. I'd like to visit it. It seemed like the water would be refreshing after walking in the dry conditions of the cliffs. I'd like to go and hike there, sit and watch the water and stuff.
 
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Scenario 1

- Describe how this scenario would make you feel as well as what sort of influences and motivations lie behind those feelings. Why do you feel the way you do?
I would have felt concerned initially that they had cut off contact and probably assumed something bad had happened, plus suddenly cutting all ties with me would (most likely) be out of character. As soon as I heard about it, I would try to contact them just to say I would be there - but it would depend on how they reacted to the diagnosis i.e. if they thought it would be better to suffer through it alone. If they felt they didn't want to cause me or others problems, I would go and make sure I just hung out with them so they would be distracted and could have a nice time.
I would feel devastated inside and probably feel like the world had become a dark and terrible place. I would probably cry a lot on my own, but I would make sure they didn't notice.

- In this scenario what would you honestly say the primary focus of your feelings would be?
Primary focus? It would be a combination of being destroyed internally and trying to make sure I kept going as usual.

Scenario 2

- How do you respond to your roommate’s request and why?
I would help them because why not? If I was doing very well, I wouldn't have to worry about my own grades and could spare the extra time to make sure someone else doesn't fail. Win-win. I would recommend they talked to the professor tough, so they could be prepared in the future.

- What sort of things in this scenario stand out to you as far as having a strong influence on your decision making and why?
Time. If I felt I didn't have time, I'd recommend they asked the professor.

- Describe the flow of your decision making process.
Do I have the time and energy to help them? Do they really need my help? Can I actually explain this to them? If I'd answer those with a 'yes', then I'd help them. I'd feel maybe a little anxious about helping them in case I was caught.


SCENARIO 3


- Which project appeals to you the most, as it relates to the way you prefer to logically process information? Why?
#2 because I really don't enjoy managing a group. To be honest, as soon as I saw the second had no group work, I chose it. I prefer to be able to focus and work as hard as I like on an individual project with very limited interaction, if possible. I don't mind a narrow focus either, as it means I can add more information into a specific area.

- What sort of things in this scenario, across either project, stood out to you as having a strong influence on your decision? Why?
Group work. I really can't stand it.

SCENARIO 4
- Describe your behavior in this situation as you process and think about the ideas they are presenting.I'd write ideas down that might be useful and try to contribute my own. I would also ask if anyone had any specific tasks they wanted to do, or any specific areas they had an interest in. If there was something I was very keen on doing, I'd mention it early on.

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Describe what major influences drive this behavior.
Making sure we get enough information for the project and that everyone is working well together, without any resentment building up - resentment always causes a lot of problems, as does vying for leadership/control. I'd try to make sure everyone was happy with what they were doing and could just go off and get it completed as soon as possible, so we had a maximum amount of time for revision. The mentioning my interest early on would be to secure a topic I wanted to look at.

SCENARIO 5


- Describe what sort of activities would help you to recharge. What would you enjoy doing after a long week and why?
I would read as much as I wanted in the evening, then lie-in and get up very gradually. I would then play videogames or write for a while, mess around on the internet and look up some writing information. I would probably go for a walk and maybe watch a film, or something. Basically, I'd have a day where I could go at my own pace, without being rushed or pressured.

- What sort of things do you feel you draw non-physical energy from doing?
Writing stories, especially when I get inspired by something. Reading a good book (sometimes in Japanese to work my brain)/watching a good film/listening to music. Researching things I'm interested in.

SCENARIO 6


- What were your top 3 choices and what aspects of these careers appeal to you?
Artist (if it includes author), Psychologist, Teacher (if that includes higher education).

- Was it difficult or easy to pick only 3 and why?
Difficult, because my actual plan for careers goes something like: writer on the side of publisher, maybe some translating.

- Prioritize the aspects of your career choices that influenced your decision, what things mattered most to you, where do you imagine finding the most fulfillment and why?
Creativity, interest, potential to learn more/develop skills. Hence, artist is highest as it includes all these things. I don't mind the idea of studying the mind, but wouldn't want to do a lot of the compulsory dry research I'd seen be a big part of psychology. I also wouldn't mind teaching if it was in small classes and on a subject I was interested in.


SCENARIO 7

Click on the image below and pay close attention to the things that jump out to you, objects, thoughts, feelings, impressions, ideas etc. What do you see?



- Describe the main things that stand out to you in this picture.
The trees and the water, as their vibrancy contrasts the desert-like cliffs. It's a very unusual picture in that respect.

- Why do you think/feel you focused on those things?
Because half the image looks like a lake with trees, while the other half looks like a desert. It seems like it could be a scene from a film or story.

- Describe the strength with which this photo did or did not appeal to you and why?
I found it fairly appealing, as it's quite a nice angle which makes it look almost like a fantasy setting. I also like how unusual it is.
 
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Answers 3 and 4 are new(ish).

1. Fi, strong empathy for partner because I care deeply for them

2. Fi, "Why not? I see no harm in it."

3. The first time around, I was influenced by my introversion and perfectionism. This time I'm going to factor that out and focus on the project. Although I like in-depth analysis and controlling my own work, I would ultimately have to go with the first project because it has an actual outcome. The second project is more about research for the sake of research. That can satisfy me in an academic setting, but I don't see the payoff in a work setting. (Te)

4. First of all, I would feel relieved that my group is actively participating and bouncing ideas around. It's true that I like taking control of my work, but I don't like having an entire project on my shoulders knowing other people can help. In this scenario, I would contribute my own ideas or build on what others are saying. I would like to contribute something to the project instead of sitting around quietly. If someone has a strong background in something I'm unfamiliar with, I would ask them to explain their ideas to the group. That way, we would all have a sense of what the project is going to be. It would be best to divide the work according to our strengths and agree on a research method, formatting, ways to communicate, etc. (Te...?)

5. Introverted

6. Fi (psychology, counseling) and Te (scientist, engineer)

7. You determined Ne/Si.

Your scoring key leads me to ISTJ. You said you didn't think I was primary Si; maybe I'm on my way to exploring Ne. Interpretation welcome.

Just wanted to leave feedback :)
I don't know if I would say ISTJ or not... I'm not sure the difference between N and S was that pronounced and if I remember from our discussion Fi very much was and Te was very much influenced by introversion. The inferior function typically plays a significant subconscious role in career interests too. I would still put you as primary Fi and with the Ne / Si combo... lean towards INFP over ISTJ.
 

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Looking at scenario 1-4... its hard to say conclusively due to the lack of info lol... but I'm leaning towards Te / Fi.

Scenario 5: I wouldn't necessarily say introvert or extrovert... could go either way honestly. Your social setting is a bit more intimate but it sounds like you would get energized by being around close friends and talking about things that interest you.

Scenario 6: Going with a possible T over F influence here but I'm uncertain... could be motivatied by Fi as well. Possible aux / tert combo.

Scenario 7: Definitely getting Si honing in on specific details however I am sensing an Ne influence too in generating possibilities... you may not even be aware of it. Why do you say it is possibly taken in winter... I suspect I know but do you realize why that idea dropped into your head? You are the first to mention the possibility of winter here and just before I read you message I was looking at the photo and thinking the same thing. Lots of people notice the trees behind the evergreens and assume they are dead... but I was thinking to myself, why do they assume that? It could just be winter... or winter transitioning into spring in this photo.

Anyway, getting strong Si but still with the inferior maybe even subconscious influence of Ne. ISTJ fits pretty well... I might be inclined to say ESTJ because both Si and Ne seemed pretty clear... and there is the possibility of you being an extrovert. Not sure if the difference in strength between Te and Fi is that much to warrant a primary / inferior combo however.

ISTJ or ESTJ is my guess
I like to keep em short :perc2:

Really though, I didnt have much to write about.

S5: It doesnt have to be close friends, anyone who behaves friedly and nice (and not borig) would do it. But, yeah, I did have a coversation about cars today with an white-haired fella, it was entertaning. Topic of interest matters more, I'd say.

S7: The idea was just there, after I looked at trees. The greenness of the pines were easily noticable so it caught my attention. I know that pines are the kind of trees that keep their leaves during winter but the background trees didn't have any so it must be winter or some adjacent time.
I still dont see any reason for background trees to be dead, they seem to have well grown trunks just missing their leaves.

I'm not really sure if I'm E or I, funnily. I can see why for both, maybe I can be be both ? lol :kitteh:

I feel like the order of my functions would be Si-(Te/Fe)-(Ne/Fi) so I come off as extroverted introvert or sth. I can see both of Fi and Ne's inferior descrpitions suitable for me at times but never worse as it is written. Hmm :)
 
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