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We had some threads recently about falling in love and it got me thinking. What has been your experience with romantic relationships in terms of type? This has probably been discussed before but maybe not specifically in the INFJ forum.
Personally, all my best friends have always been N-types, so I always assumed my romantic partners would be N types as well. I thought this even before I knew anything about MBTI... I thought "whoever I end up with has to be a nerdy kind of person, the kind of person you can talk about anything with for hours." aka... N-types..
However, real life has proven me wrong. This is long, so I'll break it up to make it easy on the eyes
Story about my first relationship with an ISFP:
My first relationship of any importance (ended up being 4 years) was with an ISFP. It started in the beginning of our senior year of college. When I first met him (a couple years before we started dating), I thought he was cute, and I had a low-key crush on him. I hung out with him a few times, but conversation was not scintillating. I sensed we didn't have much in common... well, we had some things in common, but I didn't really feel we had enough common to be in a relationship. However, we just happened to start hanging out a lot.... and before we knew it, we were dating. It was a rocky start. I felt really ambiguous about it. Right at the beginning of the relationship, he came to visit me at college for a weekend. We hadn't really fully broken the ice... we had kissed, but hadn't really made out or anything more. I remember the weekend just being... ug. It was boring. I felt like I was stuck with him the whole weekend, since he was visiting me, and we just didn't have that much to talk about. I felt tense and awkward the whole time and I was so glad when he left. I thought to myself, this relationship can't possibly have any future. I need someone I can talk to. He's just not that kind of person. (It turned out he saw it all differently--he had really enjoyed the weekend, and the lack of conversation didn't bother him). I actually broke up with him, after only a few weeks. He was really upset. Then maybe a week or two later, he convinced me that we should get back together. Thank goodness he did... We just started hanging out more and more, and things changed. We broke the ice, got comfortable with each other in the bedroom, etc etc. We got to that point in relationships where you don't feel awkward with the other person if you're not talking. Our conversations were still not very enjoyable to me. A lot of times I would feel bored with him, wishing he was more intuitive, more into discussing ideas. But most of the time, it didn't matter. We reached a level of intimacy I'd never had with another person before. We told each other "I love you" after 4 months. After maybe 6 months he told he was "in love with me", which apparently was different from just saying "I love you" (I guess it's an Fi thing?). I have to admit, I never was in love with him. But I did love him a great deal, and still do, even though we've been broken up almost 2 years. Eventually, our differences caught up to us. I was bored around him because he didn't like discussing ideas, and he was bored with me because I wasn't exciting enough for his Extraverted Sensing mind. Our Fi and Fe clashed horribly at times (ug, still makes me shudder).
So, bottom line: it wasn't meant to last, but I'm beyond thankful that it happened. If I had followed my gut instinct -- and not wanted to get together with an ISFP -- I would have missed out on the most amazing relationship of my life.
Story about attempting to date N types:
So, after we broke up, I tried to date again. I went on dating websites, and specifically looked for NTs or NFs.
(Not such a hard thing, actually). I went on four or five first dates with NTs or NFs, and got rejected each time. What was their complaint? "I felt like we didn't have much to talk about." The same thing that almost ended the relationship with my ISFP, on my end. Given that I knew all these types were Ns, I began to suspect that they were all looking for the ideal partner. I felt like I was disappointing them all-- they judged me really quickly, and found me wanting. One time, I went on two dates with an INTJ guy (it said he was INTJ on his profile and it seemed to match). On each date, we sat and talked for about 2 hours straight... about books, ideas, movies, anything... the conversation just flowed. Later, after he rejected me, he said "I felt like we were just scrambling to find something to talk about." I found myself sighing and I thought back to the beginning of my relationship with my ISFP... when we spent a whole weekend not really having much conversation at all, but he didn't really care at all, because he could sense the growing intimacy between us. What is it with Ns and this pedestal we put ~conversation~ on? Why does good conversation seem like the be-all, end-all of relationships?
I thought back to how many dates I had personally rejected through out high school and college because of lack of good conversation... how easily I almost rejected my ISFP... Any of those dates I rejected could have been a good relationship, maybe.
Story about a second ISFP I sort of dated:
So anyway, dating wasn't going well. Meanwhile, I met another ISFP at work. He wanted me to be his girlfriend... we went on dates... things got intimate really fast. He was the best kisser I'd ever been with. He was absolutely terrible at making conversation. I felt so bored, awkward, and tense whenever I was around him. I sensed that we didn't match. But then we had fun together. We played pool at a bar. We watched horror movies and made out afterwards. It was actually okay. I didn't feel judged or idealized him, not one bit... his point of view seemed to be "you're cool. You're single. I'm single. Let's be together." Just like my first ISFP had been. Well, eventually I just let things drop between us. He had some sexual things that made me uncomfortable and like I said, I really just didn't enjoy being together except during certain times.
Story about an ISFJ I may be dating currently:
So, since him, I've tried to date a few more NFs... no luck. Nothing. When I met an ISFJ at work who I was kind of attracted to and I knew to be single, I thought, hmmm... So I got to know him. This was maybe four months ago. We've been going on dates since then. We've kissed a few times, but overall the relationship is moving extremely slowly. He seems to have a lot of anxiety regarding physical contact, but we're getting through that, bit by bit. It's okay. He's super sweet. We don't have a lot in common, but we do have some things in common. Our conversation isn't fantastic, but overall I enjoy being with him. We have Fe-style conversation that I was missing with my ISFPs. He has the same attitude about me... "You're cool. We're both single. Let's be together. Why not?" He doesn't judge me. Sometimes he aggravates me by how planned everything has to be... his interests are not inspiring... but. I'll just see where it goes. He's the kind of person I wouldn't have given the time of day in high school. If I had gone on a few dates with him for some reason, I likely would have INFJ-door-slammed him when I realized we weren't soulmates who would be laughing hysterically and/or having fascinating conversation every second we were together...
But I've learned a lot since then. I'm not going to do that.
I predict I'll get along better with him than I did with the ISFPs, because we both use Fe, not Fi. Maybe it's okay if we don't have ~amazing conversation~. Clearly, looking for amazing conversation has not worked out for me.
So, just something to think about. Thoughts? What are your experiences?
What types have you dated/ married and what's your opinion overall on type compatibility with INFJs?
We had some threads recently about falling in love and it got me thinking. What has been your experience with romantic relationships in terms of type? This has probably been discussed before but maybe not specifically in the INFJ forum.
Personally, all my best friends have always been N-types, so I always assumed my romantic partners would be N types as well. I thought this even before I knew anything about MBTI... I thought "whoever I end up with has to be a nerdy kind of person, the kind of person you can talk about anything with for hours." aka... N-types..
However, real life has proven me wrong. This is long, so I'll break it up to make it easy on the eyes
Story about my first relationship with an ISFP:
My first relationship of any importance (ended up being 4 years) was with an ISFP. It started in the beginning of our senior year of college. When I first met him (a couple years before we started dating), I thought he was cute, and I had a low-key crush on him. I hung out with him a few times, but conversation was not scintillating. I sensed we didn't have much in common... well, we had some things in common, but I didn't really feel we had enough common to be in a relationship. However, we just happened to start hanging out a lot.... and before we knew it, we were dating. It was a rocky start. I felt really ambiguous about it. Right at the beginning of the relationship, he came to visit me at college for a weekend. We hadn't really fully broken the ice... we had kissed, but hadn't really made out or anything more. I remember the weekend just being... ug. It was boring. I felt like I was stuck with him the whole weekend, since he was visiting me, and we just didn't have that much to talk about. I felt tense and awkward the whole time and I was so glad when he left. I thought to myself, this relationship can't possibly have any future. I need someone I can talk to. He's just not that kind of person. (It turned out he saw it all differently--he had really enjoyed the weekend, and the lack of conversation didn't bother him). I actually broke up with him, after only a few weeks. He was really upset. Then maybe a week or two later, he convinced me that we should get back together. Thank goodness he did... We just started hanging out more and more, and things changed. We broke the ice, got comfortable with each other in the bedroom, etc etc. We got to that point in relationships where you don't feel awkward with the other person if you're not talking. Our conversations were still not very enjoyable to me. A lot of times I would feel bored with him, wishing he was more intuitive, more into discussing ideas. But most of the time, it didn't matter. We reached a level of intimacy I'd never had with another person before. We told each other "I love you" after 4 months. After maybe 6 months he told he was "in love with me", which apparently was different from just saying "I love you" (I guess it's an Fi thing?). I have to admit, I never was in love with him. But I did love him a great deal, and still do, even though we've been broken up almost 2 years. Eventually, our differences caught up to us. I was bored around him because he didn't like discussing ideas, and he was bored with me because I wasn't exciting enough for his Extraverted Sensing mind. Our Fi and Fe clashed horribly at times (ug, still makes me shudder).
So, bottom line: it wasn't meant to last, but I'm beyond thankful that it happened. If I had followed my gut instinct -- and not wanted to get together with an ISFP -- I would have missed out on the most amazing relationship of my life.
Story about attempting to date N types:
So, after we broke up, I tried to date again. I went on dating websites, and specifically looked for NTs or NFs.
(Not such a hard thing, actually). I went on four or five first dates with NTs or NFs, and got rejected each time. What was their complaint? "I felt like we didn't have much to talk about." The same thing that almost ended the relationship with my ISFP, on my end. Given that I knew all these types were Ns, I began to suspect that they were all looking for the ideal partner. I felt like I was disappointing them all-- they judged me really quickly, and found me wanting. One time, I went on two dates with an INTJ guy (it said he was INTJ on his profile and it seemed to match). On each date, we sat and talked for about 2 hours straight... about books, ideas, movies, anything... the conversation just flowed. Later, after he rejected me, he said "I felt like we were just scrambling to find something to talk about." I found myself sighing and I thought back to the beginning of my relationship with my ISFP... when we spent a whole weekend not really having much conversation at all, but he didn't really care at all, because he could sense the growing intimacy between us. What is it with Ns and this pedestal we put ~conversation~ on? Why does good conversation seem like the be-all, end-all of relationships?
I thought back to how many dates I had personally rejected through out high school and college because of lack of good conversation... how easily I almost rejected my ISFP... Any of those dates I rejected could have been a good relationship, maybe.
Story about a second ISFP I sort of dated:
So anyway, dating wasn't going well. Meanwhile, I met another ISFP at work. He wanted me to be his girlfriend... we went on dates... things got intimate really fast. He was the best kisser I'd ever been with. He was absolutely terrible at making conversation. I felt so bored, awkward, and tense whenever I was around him. I sensed that we didn't match. But then we had fun together. We played pool at a bar. We watched horror movies and made out afterwards. It was actually okay. I didn't feel judged or idealized him, not one bit... his point of view seemed to be "you're cool. You're single. I'm single. Let's be together." Just like my first ISFP had been. Well, eventually I just let things drop between us. He had some sexual things that made me uncomfortable and like I said, I really just didn't enjoy being together except during certain times.
Story about an ISFJ I may be dating currently:
So, since him, I've tried to date a few more NFs... no luck. Nothing. When I met an ISFJ at work who I was kind of attracted to and I knew to be single, I thought, hmmm... So I got to know him. This was maybe four months ago. We've been going on dates since then. We've kissed a few times, but overall the relationship is moving extremely slowly. He seems to have a lot of anxiety regarding physical contact, but we're getting through that, bit by bit. It's okay. He's super sweet. We don't have a lot in common, but we do have some things in common. Our conversation isn't fantastic, but overall I enjoy being with him. We have Fe-style conversation that I was missing with my ISFPs. He has the same attitude about me... "You're cool. We're both single. Let's be together. Why not?" He doesn't judge me. Sometimes he aggravates me by how planned everything has to be... his interests are not inspiring... but. I'll just see where it goes. He's the kind of person I wouldn't have given the time of day in high school. If I had gone on a few dates with him for some reason, I likely would have INFJ-door-slammed him when I realized we weren't soulmates who would be laughing hysterically and/or having fascinating conversation every second we were together...
But I've learned a lot since then. I'm not going to do that.
I predict I'll get along better with him than I did with the ISFPs, because we both use Fe, not Fi. Maybe it's okay if we don't have ~amazing conversation~. Clearly, looking for amazing conversation has not worked out for me.
So, just something to think about. Thoughts? What are your experiences?