Ehhh I don't act like your friend at all. Normally ENTJ's are the intimidating ones. Thanks for sharing but that was very specific. I was looking for more vague things.I've made a thread about the similarities and differences between me (ESTJ) and my best friend (ENTJ).
http://personalitycafe.com/myers-briggs-forum/21653-entj-estj-do-you-relate.html
I have no idea where you get your information from but please stop giving ENTJ's a bad image.Ehhh I don't act like your friend at all. Normally ENTJ's are the intimidating ones. Thanks for sharing but that was very specific. I was looking for more vague things.
First off you being a jerky know it all gives ENTJ's a worse name than I could even if I tried. I'm speaking from personal experience with ENTJ's. If you have such a problem with it then why not just ignore what I post! Okay? Great!I have no idea where you get your information from but please stop giving ENTJ's a bad image.
If anything, I really relate to WQ's friend and I am not intimidating at all. I am very diplomatic in the way I speak, and very laid back. People have described me as cool, calm and collected.
Where are you getting your information from?
What is your definition of normal? How many ENTJ that you know? What makes you sure that they are ENTJs? You don't sounds like you know MBTI well enough, because you're very typist. Typical character that only shows up on people who doesn't know much about MBTI.Ehhh I don't act like your friend at all. Normally ENTJ's are the intimidating ones. Thanks for sharing but that was very specific. I was looking for more vague things.
Hey, not everyone hates jerky.First off you being a jerky know it all gives ENTJ's a worse name than I could even if I tried. I'm speaking from personal experience with ENTJ's. If you have such a problem with it then why not just ignore what I post! Okay? Great!
Hm. You know, by the way, you might still be an ESTJ. Just putting that possibility out there.Hahah! Are you saying that I should partake in cannibalism and eat Troisi? Hummm.
2) The ESTJ uses humor to "fin in" at work; the ENTJ uses humor to "stick out"
4) The ESTJ's goal is to achieve greater responsibility/respect; the ENTJ's goal is to get more work done
Did you mean that the ENTJ uses humor to stand out or did you mean that as a result of his type of humor, the ENTJ stands out?
If it's the first, why do you think the ENTJ does so?
Also, what would you say are the differences in the style of humor of ESTJs and ENTJs?
Hummm. I agree with everything but the last two. I also use humor to stand out!! I think that both the ESTJ's and the ENTJ's both use logic in problem solving. I think that maybe the ENTJ just uses logic and a gut instinct at the same time... That's kinda hard to explane.I work with a guy who's an ENTJ and I've got to say that, even though there are some striking similarities, there are also some pretty distinct differences between the two types.
Here are some similarities and dissimilarities I've noticed at work:
SIMILARITIES
1) Both have a strong work ethic
2) Both value a hierarchical command structure
3) Both are reliable, diligent, honest, straightforward, and professional
4) Both can identify the best course of action, and can delegate effectively
DISSIMILARITIES
1) The ESTJ focuses on his/her individual work; the ENTJ is concerned with the group's progress
2) The ESTJ uses humor to "fin in" at work; the ENTJ uses humor to "stick out"
3) The ESTJ prefers logic-based solutions to problems; the ENTJ prefers to follow his/her "gut instinct"
4) The ESTJ's goal is to achieve greater responsibility/respect; the ENTJ's goal is to get more work done
Yep, I agree 100%. I do the same thing that you ENTJ friend does. We should never meet. It would be bad.To answer the first two questions, the ENTJ's style of humor is unique to the group and, to be honest, I think he understands that it's one of his strong points. When he's joking around, I can't be sure if he's milking it, or if he's just being funny. I think he uses his humor primarily because he likes the attention, but also because it gives him control of the conversation. He's not a "control freak," per se. Rather, I'd say he enjoys "guiding" the discussion.
In response to your third question, while I can't speak for every ESTJ's style of humor, I know my jokes are situational, witty, and/or stupid. (I've been told my humor is "awkward" by numerous people.) It's like a mixture of Michael Scott (from The Office) and a few of Michael Cera's characters. The ENTJ's humor, on the other hand, is direct, confrontational, and intentionally abrasive (all in a good way).
How are they able to masquerade as ENTJs? Ne and Ni are very different in both thought patterns and execution style.If you have an ESTJ with a well developed Ne, you can find yourself with a mess on your hands if they use it to further some of their xSxJ pursuits (mainly miscellaneous loyalties to society). Here is where you find your most vocal stereotypers and fanatics in the realm of ExTJs. They are also the ones who tend to unintentionally masquerade as ENTJs.
What I meant is that they are masquerading as far as labeling the mirror goes. IME, mistyped ESTJs with a strong Ne are the ones most likely to recall on a handful of events to interpret them as evidence for their ENTJ label. The issue of function analysis does not necessarily have to come in to play because once they have gathered the pieces of evidence, processed, and applied them, they can again use Ne to flesh out their already faulty logic.How are they able to masquerade as ENTJs? Ne and Ni are very different in both thought patterns and execution style.
...Unless you mean, after taking one of those simple MBTI tests, due to their intuition being rather high, they think of themselves as ENTJ and thus, label themselves as such.
Is your work ethic terrible about things you find particularly important?Well I'm an ENTJ and my work ethic is terrible. It's really bad.
