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I created this:
https://www.quiz-maker.com/QTBGMSJ


First 4 letters = your type.
Last 4 letters = obviously not your type.

I plan on actually doing some 'proper' ones in the future, now that I've made an account etc, but, this one's basically a sample test.

Keen to see hear some thoughts.
 

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I got ESTP, which I clearly am not.
 
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I got ESTP, which I clearly am not.
To get ESTP, you have to pick the E, S, T and P options.

Of course, it's not perfect, I just banged the whole thing out in about 10 minutes basically as a test, to see if I even liked the platform.

But, I do believe the E/I and S/N questions are solid - they're based off of information on the official MBTI website, the E/I one in particular is targeting the manner in which we gain energy, and where we prefer to spend it.
 

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@Turi for the first question there are very few people who would find the second option stimulating, even if introverts end up doing it a lot.

For the second question, I am not sure how getting a rough idea of a problem and winging it is supposed to be an N thing.

On Form M, I only answered 1 question out of 47 I/E and N/S questions as not I or N, putting me on the extreme side of both axes. Yet somehow you picked single questions that gave me the opposite of my strongest preferences.
 
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Not bad if looking for a minute quiz. Only issue is the first question. I thought it was an S or N, not E or I question. Oh and I got ESTP.
 

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@Turi for the first question there are very few people who would find the second option stimulating, even if introverts end up doing it a lot.

For the second question, I am not sure how getting a rough idea of a problem and winging it is supposed to be an N thing.

On Form M, I only answered 1 question out of 47 I/E and N/S questions as not I or N, putting me on the extreme side of both axes. Yet somehow you picked single questions that gave me the opposite of my strongest preferences.
First question is about energy i.e the heart of E/I.
Second question is about how you get the big picture, and N types are renown for thinking they just "get it", S types prefer to actually flesh it out because they don't think they just "get it" without knowing everything they need to.

Re: Form M results, eh, unlucky?

I feel like they're both solid questions and separate E/I and S/N beautifully and succinctly.

Real E/I and S/N.
Not the BS versions.
 

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Not bad if looking for a minute quiz. Only issue is the first question. I thought it was an S or N, not E or I question. Oh and I got ESTP.
The quiz doesn't care what you thought the questions were for, haha.
 

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First question is about energy i.e the heart of E/I.
You used the word "stimulation" rather than "energy", but there's really only so much time that most introverts can even examine stuff listed in the second question.
Second question is about how you get the big picture, and N types are renown for thinking they just "get it", S types prefer to actually flesh it out because they don't think they just "get it" without knowing everything they need to.
Then why is Enneagram 5 shown to correlate with N rather than S?
Re: Form M results, eh, unlucky?
Well damn, guess I am, never realized my true type was ESTP, Form M is truly garbage with how it gave me such strong I and N results.
I feel like they're both solid questions and separate E/I and S/N beautifully and succinctly.

Real E/I and S/N.
Not the BS versions.
The BS versions, as in Form M? Is this some kind of troll?
 
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You used the word "stimulation" rather than "energy", but there's really only so much time that most introverts can even examine stuff listed in the second question.
Is there, though? That's the whole deal with introversion.
They gain energy by doing that.

Then why is Enneagram 5 shown to correlate with N rather than S?
Since when? You got a link?
I notice ISTPs and ISTJs type as 5s all day, in fact, type 5 is the most common ISTP Enneagram, IIRC.

Well damn, guess I am, never realized my true type was ESTP, Form M is truly garbage with how it gave me such strong I and N results.
Nah, nothing to do with Form M - it's more aimed at tearing apart the notion that Extraversion = 'loud' 'gregarious' 'social butterfly' and should rather be seen as one gaining energy from external stimuli.

Regarding N/S - ehh.. I still feel like it's solid.
S types build up to big picture understanding by actively seeking out information.
N types think they just know it already and have a grasp on the big picture right off the bat, so they roll from there.

It's all based off of information from the official MBTIonline website.
 

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Then why is Enneagram 5 shown to correlate with N rather than S?
My experience is that "just getting it" and proceeding from there is a typically NF trait. NT-types still have that intuitive sense, but we usually see it as part of the process of asking questions and investigating the problem. This probably relates to how F-types try to see ideas in positive lights whereas T-types prefer to adopt a more critical stance.
 

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@Turi for MBTI/Enneagram correlations

Older thread, probably from before people typed by Grant stacks very much (1999): MBTI-Enneagram correlations
Newer survey from Heidi Priebe (2016): https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/01/mbti-and-the-enneagram-2/
Typology Central/Personality Cafe (2016): https://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/Enneagram_and_MBTI_Correlation

In the old one, 5 was shown to be the most intuitive type. Poor sample size for ISTP but it was INTP > ISTP > INTJ >.
In the Priebe one, 5 had the highest proportion for INTP followed by ISTP and INTJ which are essentially tied, with ISTJ lagging by a lot.
In the last one from here and Typology Central, 5 was INTP > INTJ > ISTP > ISTJ.
 

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@Turi for MBTI/Enneagram correlations

Older thread, probably from before people typed by Grant stacks very much (1999): MBTI-Enneagram correlations
Newer survey from Heidi Priebe (2016): https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2016/01/mbti-and-the-enneagram-2/
Typology Central/Personality Cafe (2016): https://www.typologycentral.com/wiki/index.php/Enneagram_and_MBTI_Correlation

In the old one, 5 was shown to be the most intuitive type. Poor sample size for ISTP but it was INTP > ISTP > INTJ >.
In the Priebe one, 5 had the highest proportion for INTP followed by ISTP and INTJ which are essentially tied, with ISTJ lagging by a lot.
In the last one from here and Typology Central, 5 was INTP > INTJ > ISTP > ISTJ.
This doesn't show a correlation between type 5 and N.
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The ISTP and ISTJ results are way too high to come to that conclusion.
 

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This test is pulling solid results in other places I've posted it.

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@Turi in all three links, INTP > ISTP, and INTJ > ISTJ. In the first link, correlation was explicitly tested for, and N correlated with 5 more than any other Enneagram type.

I don't know how the correlation can't be obvious.
 
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@Turi in all three links, INTP > ISTP, and INTJ > ISTJ. In the first link, correlation was explicitly tested for, and N correlated with 5 more than any other Enneagram type.

I don't know how the correlation can't be obvious.
First link literally says xSTP results should be treated with skeptical as should ISTJ.

They're the exact types were talking about here on the S side.

I hereby dismiss this evidence.
 

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@Turi you sure didn't have trouble linking to sketchy Facebook polls with much smaller samples. You seem to selective skepticism when it comes to data.

And even if you ignore the first one (ISTP is actually higher in the ranking in this one anyway, it's the only one out of the three where it's higher than INTJ by a decent margin), the other two tell the same story.
 
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