So you say you're an Ni dom or Aux

Sensational said:

Agree

But I am asking them to explain it because of so many mistypes.

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Not trying to be rude or anything, but theres literally no point to this post. How do you know youre an Se Dom? How does an Fi dom know theyre an Fi Dom? You read about the functions, take a few tests maybe, study and try to understand typology in general and the types, and it all eventually just "clicks". I don't think you should be "discriminating" (this is definitely not the word I'm looking for but my mind's gone blank lol) against Ni doms, because the reasoning behind figuring out their type is the same process as every other person trying to figure out their type. Ni isn't more "special" than any other function, it's just the least common ego function in Americans (as far as I know). Who knows? Ni doms/auxs might be the most common in Asian culture.

As far as mistyping goes, there's no proof (to my knowledge) to show xNxJ is the most common mistype, so I think the reasoning behind why people mistype is for another thread

MusiCago said:

Not trying to be rude or anything, but theres literally no point to this post. How do you know youre an Se Dom? How does an Fi dom know theyre an Fi Dom? You read about the functions, take a few tests maybe, study and try to understand typology in general and the types, and it all eventually just "clicks". I don't think you should be "discriminating" against Ni doms, because the reasoning behind figuring out their type is the same process as every other person trying to figure out their type. Ni isn't more "special" than any other function, it's just the least common preferred ego function in Americans (as far as I know). Who knows? Ni doms/auxs might be the most common in Asian culture.

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Yes the point is though I am willing to consider I could not be an Se dom. By gathering various descriptions of people types in various spectrums though I do think can be beneficial to drawing conclusions. Whether I am an Se dom or not is more irrelevant. As to having a bunch of people who self type of the same type actually observe interpretation directly next to each other. I do believe the relevance is in comparison and contrast and similarities to help gain insight. (This right here could also be used as an example of how I view Ti use as far as categorizing for analysis). But exactly who am I alone to say it right hence looking for other interpretations of functions to compare and contrast. Maybe I am not Se or Ti but actually being willing to throw my interpretations of their use out there and put it up for debate to examine was more the point.

If for example 4/10 people typed as Ni dom/aux are wrong and using circular reasoning to draw their conclusions wouldn't it make sense for them to at least see 6/10 people explaining

Of course it's all hypothetical.

I think you misunderstood my entire point I don't actually believe Ni to be more special. Some of my post was sarcasm jabbing at many people self typing often in favor of Ni.

None of you owe explanations for your self typing but if you lack providing reason thru your interpretations of why you type yourself why are you even commenting on the thread.

MusiCago said:

I don't think you should be "discriminating" (this is definitely not the word I'm looking for but my mind's gone blank lol) against Ni doms, because the reasoning behind figuring out their type is the same process as every other person trying to figure out their type.

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In defence of @Sensational this isn't the only function related thread Sensational has posted recently. Not just targeting you guys.

Reila Nimu said:

I think the idea of your thread is interesting, by the way.

For further understanding on what is Introverted Intuition and how it works, I recommend the following links:

NiFe (INFJ) — Type in Mind
How Functions Work: Dominant Ni (INTJ/INFJ) - Type Theory
How Functions Work: Auxiliary Ni (ENTJ/ENFJ) - Type Theory

Last but not least, this user's perspective on Ni is very interesting.

http://personalitycafe.com/cognitive-functions/673802-introverted-intuition-explained-ni-dom.html

P.S.: I don't palm read on Wednesdays.

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Sorry but maybe it's my supposed (but possibly not too) higher Ti still saying I am not asking for copied and pasted links to support descriptions I am asking Ni doms to explain it. Because I think the authentic Ni doms are going to bring insight if they could offer it direct it would be useful to help gain understanding.

MusiCago said:

As far as mistyping goes, there's no proof (to my knowledge) to show xNxJ is the most common mistype, so I think the reasoning behind why people mistype is for another thread

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I suppose the statistics you find regarding MBTI types (whether valid or invalid) have some say in this, along with the large influx of self-proclaimed Ni-users on the web. Of course, this concerns N types in general.

And you're right, since according to your logic no one can know anything. But that doesn't sound like a fair way to dismiss questioning, though.

Reila Nimu's inference might relate to heavy Ni, where you mention authentic Ni doms, and in turn she interprets beyond the literal interpretation and sees it as a jab towards her own "mistyping." She looks behind the veil.

Or it could be Ne, I don't know, because I thought the same thing as Reila Nimu when I read your post, a subtle shot that she isn't an "authentic Ni dom."

rpmcmurphy47 said:

Reila Nimu's inference might relate to heavy Ni, where you mention authentic Ni doms, and in turn she interprets beyond the literal interpretation and sees it as a jab towards her own "mistyping." She looks behind the veil. Or it could be Ne, I don't know, because I thought the same thing as Reila Nimu when I read your post.

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Just for the record I grasp that. My intention was probably lost in delivery.

So far the only thing I have been able to conclude is that people typed as Ni users evade questions :laughing: because no one will explain anything else

Sensational said:

Can you please enlighten us. I was hoping you would do a palm reading on me.

On a serious note: Ni users how do you know you're an Ni user?

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1. I know because I value Te (my first function) and Si is my weakest (my polr function).

2. It's a process of elimination. According to Socionics, gammas and betas value Ni; so, it's possible to differentiate by comparing the two.

3. To be clear, although there's an element of predictability, Ni isn't always right. There's always room for error.

4. IMO, there's nothing mystical or magical about Ni. It is simply pattern recognition and synthesis of data applicable to the future. For example, it's taking the accumulated data to calculate the probability and likelihood of something to occur - with room for error.

*This is from the perspective of Te-Ni and will vary taking into account the order of the placement.

There were a lot of threads explaining Ni recently.
The problem is, that if you go too far you will just sound ridiculous.
Especially that Ni is subjective - everyone lives it differently.
But if I have to sum it up, I would say that it's like watching TV. It's like the whole world is a TV that you're lookin at, and you may even interact with it, but you're never gonna live it - fully.

On a serious note: Ni users how do you know you're an Ni user?

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Maybe it just came out, you know in a test?

You are aware that a thread comes up probably about once or twice a month asking this exact same question, right? Something along the lines of "please explain Ni", "how do you know you're Ni", etc.

The short answer, for me, is the same as it is for everyone: I studied all the functions, and Ni fit my behavior the best, by far. I've learned about all the functions and considered how I use all of them, but never found had any reason to think I wasn't Ni-dom.
I suspect this is the exact same process most people go through.

I wonder if the reason these threads pop up so often about Ni is that it's not well-explained, it's hard to understand, maybe more divergent from other functions, etc. That's understandable, so maybe it would be helpful to step back and remember that Ni is nothing special. It's just one of the 8 functions, one of the 8 specific things that everyone has the ability to do at certain times in their lives. From that perspective, is it necessary to challenge Ni-users and be like "please explain yourself" while seeming to imply that they're bullshitting everyone?
Ni is nothing special, you can do it, everyone can do it, it's just something some people do more than others. That's all. For the record, Se seems like the most amazing function to me, I can't begin to fathom how you guys do it, but I know you're different from me and I know you've been practicing it your entire life.

Sensational said:

Just for the record I grasp that. My intention was probably lost in delivery.

So far the only thing I have been able to conclude is that people typed as Ni users evade questions :laughing: because no one will explain anything else

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What on earth is it that you want people to explain? Read a description of Ni; that descriptions roughly fits my behavior in many cases, more so than other functions do. What else is there to explain?

Maybe it would help if you asked specific questions about how the functions work... although, that is what this entire forum is for, so...

@Turi good lord why get so butthurt about it? What difference does it make to you? Why do you need to interrogate people to get them to prove their type to you? If people are mistyped, they will figure it out eventually. You will figure out your type eventually. Funny how its always INFJs who get questioned-- why not ask the ISFJs "how do you KNOW you're ISFJ and not INFJ-- PROVE it!"

(this was in response to your above post that you deleted most of)