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I am just curious, how many INFP's like socionics?

It doesn't seem to be catching in the INFJ forum and I thought I would come over here for support or at least some kind of verification on or about how you guys feel about the other common system for typing.
 

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I don't know much about it at all, but reading what others have said over the past year it doesn't seem to positive.
 

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I haven't looked into Socionics. I've already been quite loaded with trying to reach a fuller understanding of the MBTI, the cognitive functions, and the Jungian archetypes; so to add anothersystem to my learning would probably be a bit overwhelming. However, if I were to have a good reason to research Socionics, I probably would. When I have a very desirable reason for things, I get motivated and absorbed in it. So, GreenCoyote, what do you find most appealing about Socionics, and what would be a good reason to look into it?
 

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From what I have been reading so far in the inter-type relations, I am finding some interesting things, some good points, but also a lot of very confusing points. I don't know who wrote these evaluations, but they seem rather inconsistent. I'll come across some key points that make absolute sense to me, it clicks and I recognize it, but then there are statements that just don't seem to fit. Let me give an example. The INFP and INFJ are quasi-identical relations, so I read that article. Some of it made sense, but then it said, "Books written by your Quasi-Identical are impossible to read. The creations of your Quasi-Identical look monstrous. Conversations with your Quasi-Identical, although not heavy, do not bring any satisfaction either." This makes no sense to me, because interestingly my favorite writers, artists, and musicians have often been INFJ, and some of my deepest, most appreciated conversations have been with INFJs! But then the article makes more good points, followed by confusing generalities.

I think I could find myself bemused by Socionics, but I am more drawn to things that have some consistency and rhythm.
 

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The intertype relations are somewhat interesting, the type descriptions on socionics.com are pretty meh

Apparently I'm perfectly compatible with ESTPs. I call bullshit!
According to socionics relations between EII (INFP) and SLE (ESTP) lead to conflict. Not sure about the dual relations LSE (ESTJ) - EII (INFP) though. Don't really know any ESTJ's, at least not that I know of.

"Dual relations are characterized by mutual benefit and support, and are generally viewed as optimal for friendship, intimacy, and marriage."
 
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I've checked it a bit, because I have a friend who is also INFP but didn't seem to fit with the "Healer" description and socionics makes a distiction between "Helper/Humanist" and "Romantic/Lyricist" INFP, I'm more of the first and he is more of the second.
Dunno about the relationship part though.
 

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From what I have been reading so far in the inter-type relations, I am finding some interesting things, some good points, but also a lot of very confusing points. I don't know who wrote these evaluations, but they seem rather inconsistent. I'll come across some key points that make absolute sense to me, it clicks and I recognize it, but then there are statements that just don't seem to fit. Let me give an example. The INFP and INFJ are quasi-identical relations, so I read that article. Some of it made sense, but then it said, "Books written by your Quasi-Identical are impossible to read. The creations of your Quasi-Identical look monstrous. Conversations with your Quasi-Identical, although not heavy, do not bring any satisfaction either." This makes no sense to me, because interestingly my favorite writers, artists, and musicians have often been INFJ, and some of my deepest, most appreciated conversations have been with INFJs! But then the article makes more good points, followed by confusing generalities.

I think I could find myself bemused by Socionics, but I am more drawn to things that have some consistency and rhythm.
At first it makes no sense: on the surface it looks like we have a lot in common. I love INFJ's, their art, striking up conversations with them and Carl Jung's theories (supposedly INFJ although he identified with INTP), but I have to agree with the following because of my experiences with them:

"Relations of Quasi-Identity are characterized by mutual misunderstanding. One partner's ego functions are the other partner's demonstrative and observant functions. As quasi-identicals have opposite functions, they will often have similar interests (id block and ego blocks contain the same functions) and become involved in similar activities, but they rarely understand each other's motivations or ideas.

Interestingly, Quasi-Identity partners often identify themselves as being very different from the partner. Outside observers often have trouble seeing the differences that the individual sees between himself and the partner."
 
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The intertype relations are somewhat interesting, the type descriptions on socionics.com are pretty meh



According to socionics relations between EII (INFP) and SLE (ESTP) lead to conflict. Not sure about the dual relations LSE (ESTJ) - EII (INFP) though. Don't really know any ESTJ's, at least not that I know of.

"Dual relations are characterized by mutual benefit and support, and are generally viewed as optimal for friendship, intimacy, and marriage."
I just read the duality page on the Socionics website, and INFP and ESTP are dual relations, so I'm not sure where your information about conflicting relations comes from.
 

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I am glad I posted this hear...

socionics doesn't go over so well in the INFJ forum...
sadly...
it clicks really well for me... especially the ideas about duals and when I type people in relationships with kids and stuff that have been married they are always opposite types.

try out this website

Wikisocion - Socionics Wiki - ????????? ????

thanks for reading.
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it's nice to be heard.
 

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READ MORE ABOUT IT

there are alot of discussions that are made hastily without understanding the types in either system

use the three letter system for socionics..
I think that would be better so when we discuss it we don't get confused...

I am a socionics IEI
my dual is the SLE

also... notice article about clubs. give me a sec and I will post it.
 

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the club article might explain why some people believe socionics to be valid...

if you think about the relationship compatibility in MBTI, the mistakes translate over to socion mirror relations which are somewhat successful.

but thats because each two mirror pairs are in different quadras...

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I smile cause it all probably sounds so bizarre without having read it.
honestly it isn't that hard to swallow.
take it in chunks but if you read it like me you will prolly love it <3 happy reading!
 

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read more about it though.

maybe you feel more attached to your MBTI function order... then look to the opposite type. ie. INFp switch with INFJ

or you might feel more attached to your MBTI type preference, just know the function order is different.
 

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I think each personality theory has its strengths and weaknesses. One thing I like about socionics theory is that it has a theory of interaction between types. And it was pretty accurate describing my relationship with my ex. x_X
 
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I think each personality theory has its strengths and weaknesses. One thing I like about socionics theory is that it has a theory of interaction between types. And it was pretty accurate describing my relationship with my ex. x_X
I totally love that emoticon face.

so cute and... dead but like ehh? what you say about me being crossed out. lol
 
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