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Any ENFP trekkies here?

What's your favorite series??

Why?

Mine is Next Generation. Reminds me of childhood, watching with my Dad before he had an accident where he lost most of his memory...including most of anything we ever did together.

Don't worry about deep or personal responses. "T'pol/troi/Crusher/eetc... was hawt!!" is also acceptable:D
 

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Huge fucking trekkie here. I was born in 91 so i never got into the original. My favorite by far was TNG. First season was kinda shitty but after that got way better. Picard os the coolest man on this planet and i would marry him.(coming from an extremely heterosexual male.) That fucking voice. He could brainwash people with it. I liked worf a lot too. Geordi was ehh and troi and the crusher family should not be alive :p I might start watching the newest one (enterprise) if i read enough good reviews.
 

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OMG OMG OMG, yes yes, yes, HELL yes!!! This is really weird timing. This past few weeks, I have been working on cultivating my kids' Trekkiness.

I was raised on the original series. I would watch reruns with my dad, just the two of us. Later, I watched avidly with my hubby/best friend. I saw the motion pictures as each debuted, except for the first one. Hubby and I watched each of the newer series together as they aired new. We were very poised to hate TNG, but Gene managed to pull off the interpersonal story building again, like in the original, so we ended up huge fans.

I am still a die hard fan of the original. Much of TNG rocked too. Beyond that, I lost my enthusiasm though.

What did you all think of the prequel movie? I was ready to hate it, but, after awhile, sort of forgot and went with it.

I am a huge Spok fan, and a Data fan, too. I sort of wish they had done more plots with Troi. Also... why did they drop Wesley Crusher and the Traveler plot? That had tremendous potential, from a scientific standpoint. Sigh.

Better go and cue up an episode. :)
 

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Haha! You guys rock! Good to see Trek is alive:D Just got my INTJ wife into it and she's hooked hehe...

yeah...pretty amazing series. Cross generational, transcends race/religion/personality type/etc...

I recently watched all of Enterprise, and I really dug it:) Was mad that it was cancelled.

@ Zster I liked that it "rejuvenated the genre", but I didn't like Neru as a villian. Why go back in time and destroy Vulcan with his (for whatever reason) completely pimped out "mining vessel" full of a "mining crew" capable of understanding how to use the red matter to create a singularity at the center of a planet?? I dunno...Was far fetched. If I were nero and were thrown back in time, it would be more better to prevent the disaster in the first place. The blind rtarded revenge thing made him a really 1 dimensional character. Also. Captain Kirk is a kid and suddenly in charge of the new flagship?? Haha its better when I don't think of these things...but there they are :p
@ There is no spoon I also find myself creepily attracted to Picard. Sometimes I worry my wife...
 
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I've always been the biggest fan of TNG.. And much like the OP, it also reminds me of my childhood as that is one of the things I grew up on.. :wink: .. I also love the Character development throughout the series.. The actual characters make it quite a diverse and entertaining series to follow.. :happy:
 

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Haha! You guys rock! Good to see Trek is alive:D Just got my INTJ wife into it and she's hooked hehe...

yeah...pretty amazing series. Cross generational, transcends race/religion/personality type/etc...

I recently watched all of Enterprise, and I really dug it:) Was mad that it was cancelled.

@ Zster I liked that it "rejuvenated the genre", but I didn't like Neru as a villian. Why go back in time and destroy Vulcan with his (for whatever reason) completely pimped out "mining vessel" full of a "mining crew" capable of understanding how to use the red matter to create a singularity at the center of a planet?? I dunno...Was far fetched. If I were nero and were thrown back in time, it would be more better to prevent the disaster in the first place. The blind rtarded revenge thing made him a really 1 dimensional character. Also. Captain Kirk is a kid and suddenly in charge of the new flagship?? Haha its better when I don't think of these things...but there they are :p
@ There is no spoon I also find myself creepily attracted to Picard. Sometimes I worry my wife...
Picard is the PINNACLE of human evolution :)
 

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Picard is the PINNACLE of human evolution :)
Coming into TNG when it first aired, I was prepared to dislike ANY non-Kirk captain of the Enterprise. However, Picard won me over pretty easily. I always have been a suker for bright intellect and savvy diplomacy though. Maybe it was more of a stretch that I like James T. Kirk in the first place. :)
 

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...The blind rtarded revenge thing made him a really 1 dimensional character. Also. Captain Kirk is a kid and suddenly in charge of the new flagship?? Haha its better when I don't think of these things...but there they are :p
You know, I was not even thinking of the main plot line (gee, and ENFP distracted by character development? Go figure!). I simply enjoyed how much the actors seemed to have studied the mannerisms of the original crew, and emulated them well enough to get me over those not being the original actors. I honestly have no love for anyone who would abuse the power of time travel to enact vengeance rather than prevent disaster. On that, we can agree.

Fun topic, by the way. Thanks!
 

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Sick. I love The Original Series but everything else makes me want to vomit (Except Wrath of Khan).
Kirk as an awesome badass. Picard is a true leader. Kirk had more crew members die in one whole episode then the entire TNG series. Not counting the movies. I'd follow Picard's command over Kirk's any day. Let's be real Kirk was born to be a first officer
 

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Kirk as an awesome badass. Picard is a true leader. Kirk had more crew members die in one whole episode then the entire TNG series. Not counting the movies. I'd follow Picard's command over Kirk's any day. Let's be real Kirk was born to be a first officer
Hmm, relevance? Picard being a better leader does nothing to make the show (and movies) more compelling or less disconnected from the human experience. TOS has a heart and soul, TNG is governed by a robotic memory core. Kirk was awesome because he was flawed, Picard was a joke because he was too perfect. TOS followed television classics like The Twilight Zone as well as the science fiction literature of Wells and Asimov in showing that the greatest threat to man is never an external one, but what lies within (the contemporary literature of Heinlein and Herbert also explored this). Picard was a philosopher, a diplomat, a scientist, and a commander but never a man. This leaves you with the typical standard of modern science fiction: a product tailored to an audience that subconsciously wishes to escape their own humanity rather than transcend it.
 

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Hmm, relevance? Picard being a better leader does nothing to make the show (and movies) more compelling or less disconnected from the human experience. TOS has a heart and soul, TNG is governed by a robotic memory core. Kirk was awesome because he was flawed, Picard was a joke because he was too perfect. TOS followed television classics like The Twilight Zone as well as the science fiction literature of Wells and Asimov in showing that the greatest threat to man is never an external one, but what lies within (the contemporary literature of Heinlein and Herbert also explored this). Picard was a philosopher, a diplomat, a scientist, and a commander but never a man. This leaves you with the typical standard of modern science fiction: a product tailored to an audience that subconsciously wishes to escape their own humanity rather than transcend it.
There are many many circumstances where they show Picard's humanity. Especially his teenage escapades at Starfleet Academy. BUT TOS was definitely more human i agree with that 100 %. Maybe what makes me biased is because i grew up with TNG. I like Kirk but i just never liked the show. It was too cheesy for me. I'm also gonna be that ahole and say i didn't like the actual production quality. But to say TNG has no humanity is false. Does TOS have more? Absolutely. But there are many many instances which really show the humanity of the TNG cast. Especially Data's development over the show. There are thousands of arguments on the internet over Kirk vs Picard and TOS vs TNG. It's just a matter of opinion. But i do hate the "perfect" society that is portrayed in TNG. Utopia's will never happen and are for people that do wish to escape their humanity. very true. I just think Patrick Stewart is an UNBELIEVABLE actor. Just watching him act is entertaining
 

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There are many many circumstances where they show Picard's humanity. Especially his teenage escapades at Starfleet Academy. BUT TOS was definitely more human i agree with that 100 %. Maybe what makes me biased is because i grew up with TNG. I like Kirk but i just never liked the show. It was too cheesy for me. I'm also gonna be that ahole and say i didn't like the actual production quality. But to say TNG has no humanity is false. Does TOS have more? Absolutely. But there are many many instances which really show the humanity of the TNG cast. Especially Data's development over the show. There are thousands of arguments on the internet over Kirk vs Picard and TOS vs TNG. It's just a matter of opinion. But i do hate the "perfect" society that is portrayed in TNG. Utopia's will never happen and are for people that do wish to escape their humanity. very true. I just think Patrick Stewart is an UNBELIEVABLE actor. Just watching him act is entertaining
I agree, William Shatner was also an amazing actor.. Both of them are about the same age too.. Picard did show his humanity through TNG in many situations.. He had a robotic heart for example, and they showed how frail his life was. Picard is an interesting character before he has an Alpha-Male, NT image.. I think this may be something that Male ENFPs are actually intimidated by a little.. :p .. But I do like him.. He was a great captain.. I liked Kirk's sense of humour. He was much more chilled than Picard. Almost a bit of a rogue when it came to star Trek..

Never the less, do I really care about who is better? They were both good characters in film and great actors in real life. Both had legacies.. TNG was the most popular Star Trek series, but TOS was what started it all, and it was an amazing series on it's own.. Haha, and yes TOS is really cheesy, but so was TNG (to a lesser degree).. I think it was the cheesiness that won me over though.. I couldn't stand ENTERPRISE series because it was far too serious.. Not enough corn and cheese to make a good Star Trek series.. Probably why it was cancelled.. :tongue:
 
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@The Roving ENFP would you not recommend watching it then? I'll take your word on it
It depends on what you enjoy.. I liked it for it's historical value.. I kinda eased into it with the STAR TREK FILMS 1-6.. They were alright.. It helps fill in some gaps that TNG missed.. With that being said, I own the complete TNG series, the complete DS9 series, the complete VOYAGER series, The complete ENTERPRISE series and all the films.. TOS, I have seen parts of, but I have to be in a particular mood for it.. I wouldn't completely disregard the series, but I think if you want to get into it and you have been busily soaking up the TNG juices, just ease into slowly, and maybe, start with the films.. :p
 
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