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Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe

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There is no place for God in theories on the creation of the Universe, Professor Stephen Hawking has said.

He had previously argued belief in a creator was not incompatible with science but in a new book, he concludes the Big Bang was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics.

The Grand Design, part serialised in the Times, says there is no need to invoke God to set the Universe going.

"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something," he concluded.

'Planetary conditions'

In his new book, an extract of which appears in the Times, Britain's most famous physicist sets out to contest Sir Isaac Newton's belief that the universe must have been designed by God as it could not have sprung out of chaos.

Citing the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting a star other than our Sun, he said: "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions - the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass - far less remarkable, and far less compelling as evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings."

He adds: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.

"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.

"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."

The book was co-written by US physicist Leonard Mlodinow and is published on 9 September.

In his 1988 bestseller, A Brief History of Time, Prof Hawking appeared to accept the role of God in the creation of the Universe.

"If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we should know the mind of God," he said.
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Right, so God, a complex "being" does not require creation but the universe does.

You cannot argue about God and creation with a creationist.
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*Walks out, promptly avoiding a shitstorm*
Best thing you have ever posted. :proud:
Don't think I won't stir up a shitstorm.
As long as you do it with others and not me; I'm all down for watching the lulstorm.
You've already proven on Vent that you're not fit to debate me on anything. Be gone.
What fruitful inquiry will come out of arguing about God, creation, and existence with an individual who has proven to have an inconsistent stand? When people have debated with you in past, you're opened to views until something occurs that doesn't measure up to what you agree with. Then you throw out personal insults and attacks on others in a passive- agressive manner.

If anything, WE ARE not fit to debate on this further because of my hard logic and your wish-washy stance backed up with subjectivity. Thus, any discussion between us would be unwise to continue.

Glad we could fairly agree on this.
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I tried to make it comprehensive and accurate, but due to the equivocation on these terms, it is hard to cover everything.
Compared to Hiccups it has more details and facts. I see the direction you are going in; it certainly has potential. Good job.
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That's actually a very good choice- Considering the obvious differences.
Something that should be recognized and emphasized is that your opinion is not that of objectivity(No, I'm not saying you claimed to be objective- I'm just making an emphasis hurr). It's still based within a subjective perceptive that, I would hope, is admittedly and inherently lacking information or inconsistent in its information(Such is everyone's perspective).
It is a wise choice. Either way I never stated my personal opinion and I never will because it's of no use to the subject at hand. I'm not here to debate, just observe.
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