Ok about the last thing you just said...because this is very important. I can sense we both have very different biases and definitions of what is what. To be honest I don't know what your talking about because your definition of things....and the way in which you have connected your dots....are not how I have connected my dots for the most part. I will try and explain my basic paradigm before talking about this sort of thing.Look I'm not talking about standard text book, eliminate incorrect answers logic. I'm talking more along the lines of reason, causal effect relationships. The emotional mind predicts things, interprets things, gives connections and meaning to things. However it has a definite lack of an ability to check if it's explanations are correct or not. That is where reason comes in, it's the part that goes no this won't work this won't work but this one might. Emotions are built around assumptions about the world, that get modified as we live by reason, or by the subconscious mind drawing a connection between two things. An example would be, a black person once pulled a gun on me that threatened my life black people are bad. From a basic standpoint this is correct in the sense that it might alert you to be conscious of a certain group of people that you have had difficulty with in the past. It also over generalizes, assumes black is connected with violence and thus fear. It's a more negative example but an example none the less. The rational mind will evaluate it's accuracy, and look for inconsistencies. You, use your emotions to understand the world, and your reason for ways in which you are wrong. Thus emotion opperates on a set of rules, and reason. It's own logic if you will, it's at times inaccurate but in general effective, that is where reason comes in, it comes up with all of the ways in which you are wrong.
Yes a poem is a use of the english language through words which you earlier stated was not very good at communicating emotion. Conveying an emotion, does not mean getting across the information that emotion was trying to convey to you. You can make someone feel sad the key to that is can you make them understand why you feel sad. That is where knowing the inns and outs of yourself through rational observation and continued questioning plays a vital role. Anyone can make a sad song, artists can make a song that says I'm sad and this is why.
I attack everything from a different paradigm because I in fact have a broken head.:laughing: But yeah most debates tend to be based on people looking at something with vastly different experience bases. As well as having vastly different definitions of what is what.
I see things like this.....(this will not be perfect obviously)
...damn this is gonna be hard
INFP= Fi Ne Si Te Fe Ni Se Ti
K. So this is me in a very simplistic form. I make judgments based on my Fi or introverted feelings. Feeling and Thinking are the two judgement functions based on the MBTI system. I tend to use feelings more...but in the past year I have explore Te and Ti in depth.
My next function is Ne. This is how I perceive the world around me...through extroverted intuition. I see things and connect dots...kind of like a web chart....or a bracket system.
Now...when you tell me that I need to understand my feelings through logic....and that feelings are based on logic....this makes no sense to me based on the dots I have connected.
Feelings or logic makes sense of your intuition or senses. N and S are perceiving functions. T and F are judging functions. So.....understand your F through your T? That makes no sense in my paradigm. Therefore I am confused.
I think what your saying is....( I could be COMPLETELY wrong but this is my guess) ....that.....in our cognitive functions.....Fi Ne Si Te Fe Ni Se.....we should use our inferior Te to make sense of our Fi. ....maybe
Hopefully that cleared at least some of the misunderstanding up.