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(This was a comment of mine on another site, but I decided to post it here for discussion.)


Note: These are relative comparisons and they are exaggerated for comparative clarity.



1. Freedom
Sx/Sp's believe in freedom. And they don't just believe in it as an abstract concept, but in reality. They don't want to be held down, confined, restricted, or contained. But then there's the problem of their siren, their drug, their love...an Sx/Sp would sell their soul to merge with their object of desire (be it a person, idea, or whatever). They will tirelessly fight off all other chains placed on them, but they will willingly don the handcuffs binding them to their love. The Sx/Sp ideal is to run away with their love and leave all the world behind.

Sx/So's will not do this. Freedom is too precious to surrender, even to the object of their deepest affection. The Sx/So ideal is not to run away but to stand and fight, tearing down the walls and breaking all chains. Their siren, their drug, their love...this is the greatest chain of them all. They have a strong desire to merge and yet are compelled to at least put up a token resistance.



2. Means to an End
The Sx/Sp places their hopes for fulfillment of their primary instinct (and ultimately, their survival) in their personal qualities and attributes: attractiveness, charisma, skills, abilities, success, wealth, status, etc. When things don't work out, this can leave an Sx/Sp feeling self-conscious. This gives Sx/Sp's an aire of self absorption and, in some cases, fatalism.

The Sx/So places these hopes in their cunning, cleverness, and ability to make the right choices and decisions. When things don't work out, an Sx/So may wonder what they could have done differently to have more success. This makes Sx/So's come off as enterprising masters of their own destiny.

Let's take seduction as an example: an Sx/Sp focuses on seeming desirable and attractive, an Sx/So focuses on saying the right things and acting the right way.



3. Romantic Relationships
Both Sexual types exhibit a push-and-pull dynamic. The Sx/Sp's version of this is the classic iteration: intense, passionate desire suddenly becomes too intense and Sx/Sp pulls away to protect themselves, only to have the desire return again.

The Sx/So push-and-pull is an internal one: drawn in with some hesitation, drawn closer, maybe pull back a little, still drawn in. It doesn't look as extreme as the Sx/Sp dynamic because the Sx/So doesn't completely surrender to their desire.

As a result, an Sx/Sp is going to be more all-or-none in relationships, either on out on the sand or drowning in the depths...possibly bouncing back-and-forth between the two with the tides. An Sx/So will be more balanced and stable in their relationships, preferring to wade in the shallows.

Additionally, an Sx/So has a much greater problem with partners that seem clingy or smothering. This is encroaches too greatly on their freedom. An Sx/Sp won't have a problem with this in itself (and may even like it); their greater concern is the desirability of their partner. Extreme closeness with a confident and secure partner is Sx/Sp heaven, with an insecure partner it's hell.
 

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I'll be honest I felt a lot of kinship with the descriptions of the Sx/Sp variant, I am not sure if this is just because I am a 4 or not though. This could simply be 4 likeness crossing over. 4's may experience things differently then some of the other types.

Sx/So's will not do this. Freedom is too precious to surrender, even to the object of their deepest affection. The Sx/So ideal is not to run away but to stand and fight, tearing down the walls and breaking all chains. Their siren, their drug, their love...this is the greatest chain of them all. They have a strong desire to merge and yet are compelled to at least put up a token resistance.
I don't know if I necessarily agree with this. I think in terms of my sexual variant I want complete immersion at all times into my other or my creation and I am willing to become one with it because then it will inadvertently become me. I think that's the reason why I need the immersion and the merging because I need control of the experience and I need to feel that I can have access to the power and bond from the experience I am apart of. I don't want to feel separate from it because then I am not truly apart of it and cannot effect things with it. I need for it to become me and for me to become it.

I think the subject of individuality or more accurately autonomy is an important one though. I actually do think I would give myself up to merge with my sexual desire, but I also believe that I would become resentful as well because it would eventually stop me from experiencing other things. If it was a person I would wonder if it was true unconditional love if they forced me to give up something simply to be with them and that resentment would build because I am not a possession and I cannot be owned. We can be together as one, as a unit but at that same time I never want limitations in my experiences and I would never dream of limiting my other from having those same experiences. That's not love.

Let's take seduction as an example: an Sx/Sp focuses on seeming desirable and attractive, an Sx/So focuses on saying the right things and acting the right way.
I disagree. I think the bolded comes across all sexual variants regardless of the second energy. Sexual types need to be attractive (or believe they are) in order to attract a mate. I imagine So types too would want to be attractive as their attractiveness would make their rank in the community more important.


The Sx/So push-and-pull is an internal one: drawn in with some hesitation, drawn closer, maybe pull back a little, still drawn in. It doesn't look as extreme as the Sx/Sp dynamic because the Sx/So doesn't completely surrender to their desire.
I agree with this to an extent. I think by the time I was in a relationship I wanted to be in I was already emotionally there. Then the person did something I didn't like, I pulled away just to see if it would matter to them and if they would notice. The token expression was that I was really angry or asserting some kind of independence. When in reality I was already made vulnerable and was already tied in and committed. I would also say that all or nothing tendencies could probably be applicable to all sexual sub types regardless.

Additionally, an Sx/So has a much greater problem with partners that seem clingy or smothering. This is encroaches too greatly on their freedom.
Yes. Although I am not sure how 2's might see this. But this is a huge deal for me. I would much rather be wanted, desired and longed for rather then be needed. That sends the impression that I owe something, have a responsibility or am in some way indebted to the person because they feel they can't be without me and I don't like having to deal with those expectations, feelings or emotions.
 

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I need the immersion and the merging because I need control of the experience and I need to feel that I can have access to the power and bond from the experience I am apart of.
This is the difference I am talking about here: Sx/So does not want to relinquish control but instead wants to channel and ride the energy. Sx/Sp wants to let go and be consumed by it.



I think the subject of individuality or more accurately autonomy is an important one though. I actually do think I would give myself up to merge with my sexual desire, but I also believe that I would become resentful as well because it would eventually stop me from experiencing other things. If it was a person I would wonder if it was true unconditional love if they forced me to give up something simply to be with them and that resentment would build because I am not a possession and I cannot be owned. We can be together as one, as a unit but at that same time I never want limitations in my experiences and I would never dream of limiting my other from having those same experiences. That's not love.
Love does place limitations on experiences. It doesn't do so directly, but it absolutely does so in an opportunity cost sort of way because there are many things you'll miss out on. Also, their love for you may not directly limit you, but your love for them will. If you really love someone, you will be conscious of and concerned about their needs. Attending to these needs places great limits on your experiences (ex. time, resources, fidelity, loyalty, energy, etc.). How do you feel about these limitations?



I disagree. I think the bolded comes across all sexual variants regardless of the second energy. Sexual types need to be attractive (or believe they are) in order to attract a mate.
Both types will want to be seductive through both image and behavior when trying to attract a mate, but I'm talking about which they ultimately see as the biggest difference-maker in whether or not it turns out well. Why did that girl reject me, was it because of my clothes and hair or because of what I said to her? (And relatedly, should I focus on dressing better or picking more charming topics of conversation?) Does that other girl like me because I'm friendly, interesting, and a good listener or because of my raw charisma, looks, and sense of humor?



I agree with this to an extent. I think by the time I was in a relationship I wanted to be in I was already emotionally there. Then the person did something I didn't like, I pulled away just to see if it would matter to them and if they would notice. The token expression was that I was really angry or asserting some kind of independence. When in reality I was already made vulnerable and was already tied in and committed. I would also say that all or nothing tendencies could probably be applicable to all sexual sub types regardless.
This is more of that Sx/So offering of a token resistance in order to seem like you are in control. Sx/Sp tends to give in more and then pull away more...and sometimes rinse, repeat ad infinitum.



Yes. Although I am not sure how 2's might see this. But this is a huge deal for me. I would much rather be wanted, desired and longed for rather then be needed. That sends the impression that I owe something, have a responsibility or am in some way indebted to the person because they feel they can't be without me and I don't like having to deal with those expectations, feelings or emotions.
I get an entirely different feeling from someone needing me. I don't feel a greater burden or greater stress. Their feelings and expectations don't trouble me either. I just find a partner with major insecurities very unattractive and unexciting. They just don't seem vibrant and full of the intense, exhilarating energy of an excited, optimistic, enthusiastic, and confident partner. I want to soar in the clouds; consequently, I'm attracted to a spirit like a hot air balloon, not a lead anchor.
 

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I'm not sure what I think about this. Keep in mind that different enneagram types in and of themselves have different motivations in life. A sx/so type 3 like myself will not necessarily act or treat relationships the exact same way as say a sx/so type 9 would. How someone with a variant stacking will act does depend on his type in my opinion. There will be some broad similarities between people of different types that share the same variant stacking, yes, but I don't believe you mentioned those broad similarities. It's not easy to simplify it in the manner in which you tried to simplify it. I personally do not really identify with sx/so description you provided. In some ways, it could pass, but for the most part... meh.

Issue 1: I give my partner everything I've got. I do immerse myself in the relationship fully, and I'm not afraid of missing out on anything. What could be greater than having one loyal, binding friendship to last the test of time? And, I hate to break it to you, but sx/sp people also have walls and can be quite resistant.


Issue 2: I don't like every close person in my life to be a clinger, but I have no problem with being around a partner who wants to give me most of his/her time. I enjoy that time and crave it. Who better to share most of your time with than your partner in crime? :p


Issue 3: I very much so have an all-or-nothing attitude, but that has nothing to do with lack of stability in the relationship. I think it actually makes the bond stronger. I need intensity, I need communication, I need honesty, and I need trust. Give me your everything because I will give you my everything. It is only fair that my partner gives me his all since I give my all. I give exactly what I want to get in this aspect. Giving it your all is the epitomy of dedication.
 

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Issue 1: I give my partner everything I've got. I do immerse myself in the relationship fully, and I'm not afraid of missing out on anything. What could be greater than having one loyal, binding friendship to last the test of time?
Issue 3: I very much so have an all-or-nothing attitude, but that has nothing to do with lack of stability in the relationship. I think it actually makes the bond stronger. I need intensity, I need communication, I need honesty, and I need trust. Give me your everything because I will give you my everything. It is only fair that my partner gives me his all since I give my all. I give exactly what I want to get in this aspect. Giving it your all is the epitomy of dedication.
I'm talking about losing yourself so much in the merging that you lose your sense of self, even your convictions. Tell me you'd ever lose your convictions in a relationship or in a cause.



And, I hate to break it to you, but sx/sp people also have walls and can be quite resistant.
I explicitly discussed the push-and-pull behavior of Sx/Sp's. This is so pronounced because of how alarming it can be to experience losing oneself to such an extent so suddenly.
 

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I recall Clapton's (a 9w1 sx/sp) anguished declaration of love:

Eric Clapton said:
Dear Layla,

For nothing more than the pleasures past, I would sacrifice my family, my god, and my own existence, and still you will not move. I am at the end of my mind, I cannot go back and there is nothing in tomorrow (save you) that can attract me beyond today. I have listened to the wind, I have watched the dark brooding clouds, I have felt the earth beneath me for a sign, a gesture, but there is only silence. Why do you hesitate, am I a poor lover, am I ugly, am I too weak, too strong, do you know why? If you want me, take me, I am yours...If you don't want me, please break the spell that binds me. "To cage a wild animal is a sin, to tame him is divine." My love is yours.
I'm talking about losing yourself so much in the merging that you lose your sense of self, even your convictions. Tell me you'd ever lose your convictions in a relationship or in a cause.
Suppose if your conviction is basically following your instinct, to merge with someone or something, and maybe what they offer can take you places? ('Merging' may be more suited for 9 sexuals.) I don't believe that merging may make you lose your sense of self-- like those sheep who don't know anything other than their group creed. Perhaps it actually enhances yourself; who is the one who feels the euphoria of being with another? Where do your boundaries touch? You are you, and I am I, and that is fine with me.
 

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Love does place limitations on experiences. It doesn't do so directly, but it absolutely does so in an opportunity cost sort of way because there are many things you'll miss out on. Also, their love for you may not directly limit you, but your love for them will.
I don't agree with this, although I do know others who agree with this belief I don't believe I would completely change who I am fundamentally simply for a relationship, even if it was important to me I would need to feel that I had the ability to make choices and I hope that someone would want that same thing for me. I don't believe love without freedom is truly love.

If you really love someone, you will be conscious of and concerned about their needs. Attending to these needs places great limits on your experiences (ex. time, resources, fidelity, loyalty, energy, etc.). How do you feel about these limitations?
I again just don't believe or agree with such a statement. I would never ask a person to deny themselves something just to make me happy and I would expect for that same courtesy to be given back to me.

I would never ask a person to give up their job, decline a promotion, not have a friendship with someone or not do certain activities simply because I want them to.

Again I don't think that's true love. It's control. Real love comes from letting other people make their own choices and truly wanting them to be happy in all ways. I think that's the problem sometimes with the way some view love, it's not all encompassing in that way. It doesn't magically mean you will never have needs or that you cease to exist outside of the other person.

Just because you love someone doesn't mean that you are going to have all your needs met by that one person. It's simply too much to expect that one person is going to fulfill all your needs emotionally, physically, spiritually and mentally every single day for the rest of your life. You eventually will need other people to find those needs. Just because you love that person doesn't automatically mean that you stop being who you are or that you stop growing in order to be with them. I believe that love should enable you to grow and become better. Not stunt you so that you will never find anything else worthwhile outside of that person. That again isn't love. Love doesn't limit or at least I believe it shouldn't.

Does that other girl like me because I'm friendly, interesting, and a good listener or because of my raw charisma, looks, and sense of humor?
Okay, I guess I can agree with that, the commerce may be different between So an Sp. Although I personally think that can overlap. I don't think they are really that separate. I still believe that the sx variant being in control would probably look at all of their lackings to find a solution not just regulate it to one or the other. Although at this point that could just be nitpicking.
 

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I again just don't believe or agree with such a statement. I would never ask a person to deny themselves something just to make me happy and I would expect for that same courtesy to be given back to me.
I'm not talking about someone asking you to deny yourself. I don't agree with doing that either. I'm talking about you voluntarily denying yourself for someone else (i.e. it being your idea and you doing it willingly and eagerly).



I don't agree with this, although I do know others who agree with this belief I don't believe I would completely change who I am fundamentally simply for a relationship, even if it was important to me I would need to feel that I had the ability to make choices and I hope that someone would want that same thing for me. I don't believe love without freedom is truly love.
1. Of course you don't agree with this, no Sx/So would. An Sx/Sp would. That's the distinction I'm making here and what I mean about losing oneself and giving up freedom, identity, and well...everything. An Sx/So wants to merge but doesn't want and will not submit to total surrender. An Sx/Sp does and will if the allure and temptation are great enough, but they also fear doing so.

2. I would change "I would completely change who I am fundamentally simply for a relationship" to "I would completely change who I am fundamentally when I'm in a relationship". When an Sx/Sp is in a close relationship it will happen whether they want it to or not. This contributes greatly to the push-and-pull because it's very alarming to be so utterly enslaved and ensnared...and yet it's incredibly exhilarating as well.
 

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sx/so: careless, exhibitionistic, against the norm, hot and cold, interested in and likes to connect everything to extremes: rich and poor, life and death, beautiful and ugly etc, doesn't like things that are average or in balance
sx/sp(compared to sx/so): more composed, needs more security/comfort, more materialistic, more introverted, more precise

it all depends of emneagram and the strenght of the variants of course
 

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(This was a comment of mine on another site, but I decided to post it here for discussion.)


Note: These are relative comparisons and they are exaggerated for comparative clarity.



1. Freedom
Sx/Sp's believe in freedom. And they don't just believe in it as an abstract concept, but in reality. They don't want to be held down, confined, restricted, or contained. But then there's the problem of their siren, their drug, their love...an Sx/Sp would sell their soul to merge with their object of desire (be it a person, idea, or whatever). They will tirelessly fight off all other chains placed on them, but they will willingly don the handcuffs binding them to their love. The Sx/Sp ideal is to run away with their love and leave all the world behind.

Sx/So's will not do this. Freedom is too precious to surrender, even to the object of their deepest affection. The Sx/So ideal is not to run away but to stand and fight, tearing down the walls and breaking all chains. Their siren, their drug, their love...this is the greatest chain of them all. They have a strong desire to merge and yet are compelled to at least put up a token resistance.



2. Means to an End
The Sx/Sp places their hopes for fulfillment of their primary instinct (and ultimately, their survival) in their personal qualities and attributes: attractiveness, charisma, skills, abilities, success, wealth, status, etc. When things don't work out, this can leave an Sx/Sp feeling self-conscious. This gives Sx/Sp's an aire of self absorption and, in some cases, fatalism.

The Sx/So places these hopes in their cunning, cleverness, and ability to make the right choices and decisions. When things don't work out, an Sx/So may wonder what they could have done differently to have more success. This makes Sx/So's come off as enterprising masters of their own destiny.

Let's take seduction as an example: an Sx/Sp focuses on seeming desirable and attractive, an Sx/So focuses on saying the right things and acting the right way.



3. Romantic Relationships
Both Sexual types exhibit a push-and-pull dynamic. The Sx/Sp's version of this is the classic iteration: intense, passionate desire suddenly becomes too intense and Sx/Sp pulls away to protect themselves, only to have the desire return again.

The Sx/So push-and-pull is an internal one: drawn in with some hesitation, drawn closer, maybe pull back a little, still drawn in. It doesn't look as extreme as the Sx/Sp dynamic because the Sx/So doesn't completely surrender to their desire.

As a result, an Sx/Sp is going to be more all-or-none in relationships, either on out on the sand or drowning in the depths...possibly bouncing back-and-forth between the two with the tides. An Sx/So will be more balanced and stable in their relationships, preferring to wade in the shallows.

Additionally, an Sx/So has a much greater problem with partners that seem clingy or smothering. This is encroaches too greatly on their freedom. An Sx/Sp won't have a problem with this in itself (and may even like it); their greater concern is the desirability of their partner. Extreme closeness with a confident and secure partner is Sx/Sp heaven, with an insecure partner it's hell.
This is a pretty solid comparison, although I think a lot of what I relate to in this is also because I'm a core 7.
 

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Wow, did you write this yourself? This is really good! I can't speak for people of the sx/so stacking, but for me as an sx/sp it was very accurate.

A few things didn't apply to me - I still honestly don't understand the "push-pull" dynamic. I tend to just pull. :p But most of it really resonated with me, especially this:

Additionally, an Sx/So has a much greater problem with partners that seem clingy or smothering. This is encroaches too greatly on their freedom. An Sx/Sp won't have a problem with this in itself (and may even like it); their greater concern is the desirability of their partner. Extreme closeness with a confident and secure partner is Sx/Sp heaven, with an insecure partner it's hell.
Yes! Oh gosh, thank goodness for the enneagram. I feel like sx/sp isn't a very common stacking because before reading about this stuff, I had no idea why hardly anyone seemed to view relationships the same way I did. I do not mind clingy or smothering people at all. In fact, I actually prefer clingy people, and I like being smothered. An sx/sp 7 or 8 probably wouldn't feel the same way, though - my guess is that would mostly apply to 2s and some 4s.

I've had hardly any relationship experience unfortunately (I am shy and my social skills = nope), but from what little I've had this seems to ring true for me.

You know, though? I don't really mind insecure partners. I want to be the one who can lift them up and show them just how amazing they truly are. Just so long as they let me in - I don't like it when people are too guarded.

Thanks for posting this :)
 

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I disagree.. I'm an Sx/Sp 4w5 and I do mind the clinginess and smothering. It's a huge turn off for me and tends to drive me away. I like my partner to be independent, for him to have his own life/interests/friends. There's nothing worse than someone who only lives for you, has no interest or thought besides you. It makes me feel suffocated.

At the same time, I'm very driven by the need to merge with this person, to know everything about them and understand their inner workings, to figure out what makes them tick, to uncover them basically. It's like a need that I have to fulfill. Because of this constant struggle between my Sx and Sp, I'm very conflicted and I constantly oscillate between both.

I'm pretty sure I'm not an Sx/So, lol.
 

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As an ENTP 8 sx/sp, I prefer the clinginess, I can take care of my partner and myself, if my partner needs me for their own emotional support all the time it just shows me that they view me as competent enough to satisfy their needs.

All in all though I agree with everything except the push pull method also, I also just like to keep pulling, but that could be due to being an 8 and loving the intensity through lust.
 

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I don't mind what I think many would call clinginess when it's coming from someone I genuinely like. If I felt the person was using me out of some sort of compulsion rooted in insecurity or fear then that would be different. I think the motives are clear enough when they're before you. I love emotional and physical closeness when it's mutual and sincere. I haven't really experienced it, but I believe in it. I've felt smothered before, but only because I didn't genuinely like the other person and felt something was off. It's easy for me to sense when somebody is unhealthy. Still I think what I see as very normal, other variants misinterpret, discount, cheapen. That's partly why I enjoy instinctual variants. It's validating when you've been alone with your intense needs, but know you aren't unreasonable or unhealthy (well… no more so than anyone else). Anyway, I personally need more intensity, merging and focused energy than the other variants seem to have shown me they're capable of. I think sx/sp is a rare stacking. It has been hard to find others out in the world.
 

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@ImminentThunderI disagree.. I'm an Sx/Sp 4w5 and I do mind the clinginess and smothering. It's a huge turn off for me and tends to drive me away. I like my partner to be independent, for him to have his own life/interests/friends. There's nothing worse than someone who only lives for you, has no interest or thought besides you. It makes me feel suffocated.At the same time, I'm very driven by the need to merge with this person, to know everything about them and understand their inner workings, to figure out what makes them tick, to uncover them basically. It's like a need that I have to fulfill. Because of this constant struggle between my Sx and Sp, I'm very conflicted and I constantly oscillate between both. I'm pretty sure I'm not an Sx/So, lol.
Not telling you your stacking, but this seems more 4w5 sp/sx to me. I thought I was sx/sp as well, but the issues you have that you articulated so well are precisely what made me decide on sp/sx instead. All fours want merging and intensity and are romantic, especially if sx is in their stacking. But wanting your space is a clear indication that your self-pres needs come first. I need a lot of closeness and I love that my husband adores me, but I have an off switch, when I start to feel like it's 'too much'. I think you will see a lot more push/pull with the sp/sx 4w5. We love our time alone and space with dashes of intensity- that intensity can take over when you fall in love, but I think a sx/sp will revel in it more. Honestly as much of a rush as it gives me it also scares the hell out of me. I don't like feeling like I need someone that badly.
 

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Oh I have considered Sp/Sx, but this convinced me that I was an Sx-dom:

Sx/Sp's are a little more out there with their energy and the "switch" for them is when the pull back rather than move forward.
Apparently, the difference between Sx/Sp and Sp/Sx is that the former's switch is to pull back while their "default" mode is to pursue, while Sp/Sx's switch lies in when they're drawn towards someone or something, and they have to step out of their comfort zone in order to follow this "pull" they feel towards something external.

I've always considered myself an Sx-dom because of how much I'm looking outside of myself for that ideal person/situation/idea/project that will somehow "complete" me (though I'm aware that this is also a Four thing). I'm not self-sufficient, and this is why I'm restless and constantly on the look-out. So maybe my need to remain independent is due to being a midrange Sx/Sp:

sx/sp mystifier (midrange) - the range where the mystique of the sx/sp stack is at its strongest. unconsciously attracts with intense eye contact and other sx feelers, but holds back enough to give them a kind of untouchable or hard to get close to quality. depending on their true intentions this can either frustrate their sx or reward their functional sp cooling system. like midrangers of all stacks, there's a seemingly casual approach to meeting their variant needs as the secondary instinct is kept both in play and at bay, and others may wonder what they really want.
I feel this applies to me, but I also looked into Sp/Sx with a strong Sx:

sp/sx decadent (strong sx) - sp at its most saturated with sx; self-attending ways are offset by a wilder outgoing streak, reaching outside themselves then pulling back. noticable 'sx-y' quality, often enough to pass for sx first.

Anyway, I'm still open to suggestions so do let me know what you think :)
 

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@kaleidoscope, it's a tricky thing to figure out for sure. I've had moments where sx has for sure led in my life, but I think (as far as I go) it's safe to say that sp/sx is primarily how I navigate when you look at the whole scope of my life, that when I'm in a sexual leading place it gets me excited but I really want to return to something a little more mellow, a little safer. That said, my sp and sx are very close. And it is really difficult to disengage the sexual instinct from the core four because they have a lot in common...

Those two descriptions from the typewatch are the ones I related to the most as well. Interesting-
 

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@kaleidoscope, it's a tricky thing to figure out for sure. I've had moments where sx has for sure led in my life, but I think (as far as I go) it's safe to say that sp/sx is primarily how I navigate when you look at the whole scope of my life, that when I'm in a sexual leading place it gets me excited but I really want to return to something a little more mellow, a little safer. That said, my sp and sx are very close. And it is really difficult to disengage the sexual instinct from the core four because they have a lot in common...

Those two descriptions from the typewatch are the ones I related to the most as well. Interesting-
I see what you're saying, it is a pretty tricky thing for a core 4. Personally, I do feel like my main drive is Sx, and the Sp is just here to hold me back, much like emergency brakes. The way I see it, Sx just wants to raise the temperature in a room indefinitely, and Sp is here as a thermostat, alerting me when things become too much. It acts like a temporary mediator, and once things have cooled off enough, my Sx is activated yet again. There's this constant fluctuating that's just exhausting sometimes :bored:


For an Sp/Sx, I imagine Sp would be wanting to maintain the temperature in the room at comfortable, mild degrees. While it may rise in bursts sometimes due to Sx, Sp always manages to contain it and bring it back to the initial level.
 
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