The superfluity of tritype and yet it gets so much attention.
Even then it might not come. You need to know yourself too. :happy:The biggest problem with enneagram is that folks who are familiar with MBTI tend to think that simply taking a test can tell you your enneagram type, when it actually takes weeks (or even months) of research to figure out.
I can kind of see what you're saying here, at least with 5w6's because very few people seem to identify with the subtype and because it seems less specific than 6w5 or 5w4. But what do you actually think is the mechanism for this problem? Is it the descriptions, indicating a failure to misunderstand the wing, or is it actually an organizational problem within the theory? I'd also like to hear why you think the same of the 9w1, as I only somewhat agree with your assessment there.
My problem with Enneagram theory is the conventional understanding of instinctual subtypes. People seem to treat them as a separate base-three personality system without really connecting it to Enneagram, to the point that they describe each subtype as having extremely distinct behaviors and rigid traits. A common description for sp/so, for example, will look just like a phobic 6 description, while an so/sx description may look exactly like an 8 description. I wish people would integrate the subtypes into their understanding of Enneagram in order to better understand how they filter the instincts that manifest in each type. For example, an sp 6 should be very different from an sp 2, because the self-preservation instinct is influencing the behavior of very different types. For an sp/so 6 (such as myself), the 6's needs that are concerned with the self come first, and then the 6's needs that are concerned with larger social order and convention. An sp/so 2 by contrast will focus on the self-preserving 2 needs (which differ greatly from that of the 6), and then of the socially-oriented 2 needs. This is something I wish got a lot more attention.
How can you know? Have you met all the 9w1s and 5w6s in the world?The biggest problem with the enneagram is that the 5w6 and 9w1 aren’t true subtypes. Allow me to explain. A “true” subtype carry the characteristics of the secondary wing, just weaker and in integrated form with primary type. We see this in all subtypes except the 9w1 and 5w6.
Again, how can you know? Maybe they are just so good at suppressing their perfectionist side that you usually don't notice them. Some 9w1s can be very perfectionist. I know I can be, although I don't have the drive to follow through with it most of the time.In the 9w1 there isn’t a weaker version of the 1 lurking in the background. If it was there, 9w1′s would have a higher than average drive, and they would have perfectionist and slightly obsessive tendencies. Instead, 9w1′s are very laid back, they are true experts at “chilling out”. There is nothing “obsessive” about a 9w1. They don’t require perfection to feel good.
By the way, I think you want the word "emit." Omitting positive energy would not be so positive.I believe it is a common guru configuration, as 9w1′s have a tendency to omit very positive energy.
Do you watch 5w6s in their sleep or something? :tongue:The 5w6 isn’t a “true” subtype because there isn’t type 6 energy lurking in the background, to use the exact same sentence twice. But it’s true. The 5w6 isn’t more nervous than average, it isn’t more fearful than average, it doesn’t fear being physically hurt more than average. It doesn’t sleep with one eye open, it never gets even a little bit counter phobic and it doesn’t look towards authority for acceptance/compliance/confirmation.
How can you know? Have you met all the 9w1s and 5w6s in the world?
Again, how can you know? Maybe they are just so good at suppressing their perfectionist side that you usually don't notice them. Some 9w1s can be very perfectionist. I know I can be, although I don't have the drive to follow through with it most of the time.
By the way, I think you want the word "emit." Omitting positive energy would not be so positive.
Do you watch 5w6s in their sleep or something? :tongue:
(Not being a 5w6, I'm not so sure what to say about them, though.)