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It's so rare that I come across women like myself so I'd like to take this opportunity to see what we have in common as ISTP women. Clearly this is the innerweb so if other types and/or men would like to chime in, I have no problem with that.

I have a non-traditional job...I'm a truck driver. I drive a 5 speed mustang with two car seats in the back to drive around the kiddies. I make my husband drive what I call "the bus". Growing up I was definitely a tomboy, no question about it. I built a lot of tree and club houses. I really liked to put together model cars and model airplanes. Then adolescence hit...oops, can't be a tomboy anymore. Tried like hell to fit in with the rest of the girls but it never really happened. Struggled with the "not really fitting in anywhere" through most of my teens and into my early 20's then I stopped caring and things got much easier. Woman are supposed to be nurturing and caring...I am, but not in the way society dictates. I care and nurture by doing not by feeling so people consider me to be a bit icy. I would never consider myself to be a bitch because I'm not. I never understood why a woman would consider herself that...but anyway my coolness can been mistaken for that. I'm blunt but not to the point of being tactless and crude. I have learned to finesse the truth. Over the years I've softened up a bit because it really used to be bad. I'm very laid back, accepting of everyone and I'm good to have around in a bar fight. :wink:

In terms of dating never really had a problem. I never had the "does he really like me?" or "why is he doing this to me" conversations with my friends but boy do they come to me with it. I never dated someone twice, once it's over it's over. I've always been the stronger one in the relationship and I'm often accused of not loving someone enough. I can be hurt just like anyone else. I don't have a black piece of coal for a heart like people tend to think. I just process hurtful situations differently. I guess if I had to sum myself up in one sentence it would be "still water runs deep."

How do you fit in with other women? I would think that was probably the hardest thing for me to deal with before I did a little self acceptance.
 

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It's so rare that I come across women like myself so I'd like to take this opportunity to see what we have in common as ISTP women. Clearly this is the innerweb so if other types and/or men would like to chime in, I have no problem with that.

I have a non-traditional job...I'm a truck driver. I drive a 5 speed mustang with two car seats in the back to drive around the kiddies. I make my husband drive what I call "the bus". Growing up I was definitely a tomboy, no question about it. I built a lot of tree and club houses. I really liked to put together model cars and model airplanes. Then adolescence hit...oops, can't be a tomboy anymore. Tried like hell to fit in with the rest of the girls but it never really happened. Struggled with the "not really fitting in anywhere" through most of my teens and into my early 20's then I stopped caring and things got much easier. Woman are supposed to be nurturing and caring...I am, but not in the way society dictates. I care and nurture by doing not by feeling so people consider me to be a bit icy. I would never consider myself to be a bitch because I'm not. I never understood why a woman would consider herself that...but anyway my coolness can been mistaken for that. I'm blunt but not to the point of being tactless and crude. I have learned to finesse the truth. Over the years I've softened up a bit because it really used to be bad. I'm very laid back, accepting of everyone and I'm good to have around in a bar fight. :wink:

In terms of dating never really had a problem. I never had the "does he really like me?" or "why is he doing this to me" conversations with my friends but boy do they come to me with it. I never dated someone twice, once it's over it's over. I've always been the stronger one in the relationship and I'm often accused of not loving someone enough. I can be hurt just like anyone else. I don't have a black piece of coal for a heart like people tend to think. I just process hurtful situations differently. I guess if I had to sum myself up in one sentence it would be "still water runs deep."

How do you fit in with other women? I would think that was probably the hardest thing for me to deal with before I did a little self acceptance.
LOL that reads like a description of myself. I'm not a truck driver though. My childhood ambitions were: astronaut, firefighter, explosive ordnance specialist. But I ended up in healthcare!

Growing up I never fit in with the girls - hated playing dolls and doing that 'groupie' thing. I tried to be accepted by the girls but eventually gave up and just went spider hunting with the guys. I don't look like a guy or even a tomboy now - but inside, I am one. I never wear skirts or dresses because I can't be bothered to sit ladylike or take tiny steps in high heels. I'd be the first to trip over high heels - and how am I supposed to run in those?!?! I walk faster than most guys I know (and in my long distance running days could certainly run faster and longer than most!)

I don't wear any makeup and my instructions to my hairdresser has always been 'No combing, wash and wear'.

I do not verbalise emotions - it's all in the action or 'doing'. If people miss it or don't recognise it, so be it. I do get hurt but I tune out and move on. When I make an 'internal decision' to walk out, I will not return.

I call a spade a spade. I don't dress things up. At work, I do not make a big deal out of my successes - my achievements will speak for themselves. If they go unrecognise and unappreciated, then I will take my skills somewhere else. I'm thankful though that so far my bosses have been great and I've been well-rewarded for my efforts and achievements. But if someone tries to steal credit just because they think I am a quiet achiever (the emphasis being 'quiet') then oh boy, they've picked the wrong person to 'victimise'. Because when I feel that I have a cause to speak up, then I will make sure I am heard. And people usually stop talking when I speak because it's a rare occasion! LOL
 

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I never got the groupie bathroom thing. I always want to say, "what? do you want me to hold your hand?"

Still haven't learned how to fit in with the girls. I can count on my one hand the number of times I've consented to wear a dress. I don't wear make-up. I don't style my hair. The other day, a co-worker complimented me on my hair. To which I said, "I don't even think I combed it this morning." She got a good laugh out of that.
 
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Meeting other ISTP women on this forum has been a very interesting experience for me, to say the least.

And no, there will be no group hug.
 

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How it been an interesting experience Rousse?

I've always worn my hair very short so that I can just wash it and go. Now it's a bit longer but I still don't do much with it. I got married by the mayor in a dress I got from H&M and I believe that was the last time I even wore one. I watch shows like Bridezillas and I can't seem to wrap my head around the idea of making that big of a deal out of wedding.

I remember a friend of a friend invited me to a Mary Kay pamper night...complete with Sex in the City the movie and Cosmos for the cocktails. I almost felt offended lol.

What do you like most about your personality? I love, love my independence and my self-reliance.
 

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How it been an interesting experience Rousse?
Well, it's interesting to know that ISTP women exist. I don't think I ever met any in real life. My prior experience with female friends was always annoying as hell, and left me with an unfavorable impression of women in general. It's nice to know they're not all like that.

Besides, it's fun to meet people who have even a little bit in common with me. I have enjoyed it.

What do you like most about your personality? I love, love my independence and my self-reliance.
A case in point: most women spend all their time focusing on what they hate about themselves. The fact that I don't do that, has been enough to set me apart from a lot of the women I've known.
 

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I know another ISTP woman in real life who is tom-boyish.

I am totally not a tomboy. I build treehouses and decks, sure, and I don't enjoy female "drama" -- but when it comes to makeup, hair, shoes, whatever -- I like being a woman for sure. Although I don't dress up for my engineering job because it's a manufacturing environment and that would be ridiculous...but if I'm going somewhere else? LOVE LOVE LOVE high heels, sexy anything (but not in the trashy sense, please excuse my pin-up avatar), I like beauty in the vein of Marilyn Monroe or old film stars, not Pamela Anderson.

This might have to do with my love of anything colorful. I paint everything in my house, so nail polish and fire engine red heels probably have something to do with it...

and NO. I am not an ISFP. :laughing:
 

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First description fits me completely. I got bought the dolls and stuff when I was young but I was happier running around outside getting into play fights and climbing trees. (Still play fight with my old school friends!) Have slight scars on my lip where I decided to experiment riding my bike down the stairs in my block and ended up putting my tooth through my lip.Bet my mum was so pleased when she found out she had a girl! I can hold my own and I like that.On showing people how I feel they just know that I like them. I've been very lucky with my friends :happy: I hope to join the police when I finish college. On relationships all the guys that like me are so clingy so I'm giving up for now. People are annoying! :wink:
 

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This might have to do with my love of anything colorful. I paint everything in my house, so nail polish and fire engine red heels probably have something to do with it...

and NO. I am not an ISFP.
LOL, let's not drag all that up again. :) I love color too, and getting dressed up if I have a reason to. That doesn't make us ISFPs. :crazy:
 

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I know another ISTP woman in real life who is tom-boyish.

I am totally not a tomboy. I build treehouses and decks, sure, and I don't enjoy female "drama" -- but when it comes to makeup, hair, shoes, whatever -- I like being a woman for sure. Although I don't dress up for my engineering job because it's a manufacturing environment and that would be ridiculous...but if I'm going somewhere else? LOVE LOVE LOVE high heels, sexy anything (but not in the trashy sense, please excuse my pin-up avatar), I like beauty in the vein of Marilyn Monroe or old film stars, not Pamela Anderson.

This might have to do with my love of anything colorful. I paint everything in my house, so nail polish and fire engine red heels probably have something to do with it...

and NO. I am not an ISFP. :laughing:
The female drama is the most annoying and aggravating thing in the world. An old friend from my past has recently re-appeared in my life (thanks so much Facebook :bored:) and she brought along the drama. If it continues she will be out of my life on the first thing smokin.

I have absolutely no creativity. There is no interior decoration going on in my house. My husband is an ESTJ so our house is really lame. But now I must admit, I am a snappy dresser. I haven't worn heels in a long time because I have little ones. Teetering around in heels with a preschooler and a toddler is a recipe for disaster. But I do like to look neat and well put together.
 

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A case in point: most women spend all their time focusing on what they hate about themselves. The fact that I don't do that, has been enough to set me apart from a lot of the women I've known.
I didn't want to sound big headed so I left it out but I love my self confidence. Earlier today I was rambling on about how some women allow themselves to be victimized over and over by certain men and how I just couldn't allow that to happen to me. I can see it coming a mile away and my time is too precious to put up with the bullshit. My friend told me that was because I have always felt good about myself and the women I was talking about usually don''t. I wish women in these positions would allow themselves to be great.
 

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I dress for comfort, but I don't like looking like a slob. Alas, I'm poor! so I can't always buy the nicer clothes I want.

Yeah, my ISTP dad's house is pretty spartan, but my room has a little more character to it, a few artistic touches. No, I'm not ISFP either. :)

I feel your pain, ClarifiedMind; anyone who ever pulled that drama crap with me has been cut loose and left high and dry.

P.S. Group hugs are abominations that must be eradicated at all costs. :crazy:
 
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I didn't want to sound big headed so I left it out but I love my self confidence. Earlier today I was rambling on about how some women allow themselves to be victimized over and over by certain men and how I just couldn't allow that to happen to me. I can see it coming a mile away and my time is too precious to put up with the bullshit. My friend told me that was because I have always felt good about myself and the women I was talking about usually don''t. I wish women in these positions would allow themselves to be great.
My INTJ brother always laments how women don't want to be with a nice guy; they want a guy to treat them like crap, the bad boys. This always seemed completely stupid to me; one time, I said so, and added that if any guy even tried to treat me like crap, I'd deck him then walk away from that relationship without looking back. My brother said that I'm a rarity.

I think you're right. I've always been happy and confident with who I am; comfortable in my own skin. A lot of the girls that I know always want to change something about themselves. I could never understand this. I wish those women could have this contentment as well.
 
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People who try to friend me on facebook get denied more and more often lately. And then I went through and purged anyone who posted stupid drama on my news feed. lol

I must be a freak. I LOVE remodeling. I spent the last 8 years working on house after house after... well anyway.

I think i just love aesthetics...everything must be beautiful. Why on earth would I sit in a drab colorless world when I can change it? That utilitarian beige is for the SJs. :wink: And then if you run out of paint, you can always just go outside and look at nature.
 

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Do you think we can get a DIY ISTP sub-forum around here??

We're about to close on a house that is a fixer upper and I can't wait to start remodeling. It's like a treasure trove of projects! I'll never be bored again. I would like to refinish the floors since the previous owners covered it up with vinyl tiles but Nervous Ned (my husband) wants to do laminate...boring. I also want to get rid of the horrible popcorn ceilings but again, I don't know if the taskmaster is going to hassle me about it. I'll just do it while he's at work :wink:

But as far as color is concerned...yikes it's the blind leading the blind. I like color, but I just don't know what's right for which room and what colors compliment each other.
 

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How do you fit in with other women? I would think that was probably the hardest thing for me to deal with before I did a little self acceptance.
agreed. most of my friends are extroverts. it's good sometimes when they asked me out, but they usually understand my need of space & let me spend my time alone. it's great 'cause i can spend my time alone while they went out socializing. i also will approach people first if i sense that person can get along well with me. i mean, get along really well.
 

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I LOVE remodeling. I spent the last 8 years working on house after house after... well anyway.
Me too, I renovated houses for about 8 years. I made a good amount of profit, and I learned a lot of skills. I eventually got tired of it, but I enjoyed it at the time. Painting was always my favorite part of the job, in fact I even worked at a paint store so I got a lot of cheap or free paint. Those were the days.

Do you think we can get a DIY ISTP sub-forum around here??
You can talk DIY here. If you just bought a fixer-upper, you're in good company. :) Actually I'm doing some electrical work at the moment, so I'm in a DIY kind of mood.

I know it's irrelevant, and none of you really care, but ISTP women are pretty awesome. Alright, carry on.
All ISTPs are awesome. It's a well-documented fact.
 

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I also want to get rid of the horrible popcorn ceilings but again, I don't know if the taskmaster is going to hassle me about it. I'll just do it while he's at work :wink:
This is the only way to get anything done when you're married to a stick. :)

The things that can happen to a house while the man is away.... :laughing:
 
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