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What do you think will be the future of the internet? (Earth moving closer to the sun, solar outbursts, moving to other plants, etc.)
 

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What do you mean? We're going to get close to the sun and everything will melt?

The Internet is going to be more widespread than ever. We already have it on our refrigerators. Communications will become more unified as we continue to switch our older technologies to the Internet.

We also might get cancer and global warming from all of the wifi and radios.
 

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Well, according to some theory at least the earth is supposed to melt after some time, then there are the solar outburst which does things with electromagnetism, and if we move to another planet I have no idea how it would work at all when it comes to the cabels and servers, etc.
 

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Well, according to some theory at least the earth is supposed to melt after some time, then there are the solar outburst which does things with electromagnetism, and if we move to another planet I have no idea how it would work at all when it comes to the cabels and servers, etc.
Electromagnetic interference is a big problem. On Earth, when it is quite severe, we ought to use Shielded Twisted Pair cables that block out the interference. Like in nuclear power plants I believe they use those. Fiber Optics, which rely on just LEDs or Lasers to operate, are virtually immune to EMI as we know it. Our computers aren't completely light operated like some our cables though. I have a feeling by the time we move to a different planet, we will have made fiber optics cheaper and more capable than ever even though they are already much better than what we normally use in local environments. To my understanding, we are at the tip of the iceberg with a lot of technologies even though they have been around for decades. There is still a lot of progress to be made.
 

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Well, according to some theory at least the earth is supposed to melt after some time, then there are the solar outburst which does things with electromagnetism, and if we move to another planet I have no idea how it would work at all when it comes to the cabels and servers, etc.
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Earth won't melt, it will be engulfed by the sun as it expands due to its ever-reducing density as its fuel burns out.

But that's so far in the future, the planet will have probably gone through several new eras of species dominance (first being dinosaurs, second being mammals, then third, fourth etc being who knows what). 5 billion years from now. Human society will be long gone.

In the even that humans actually are able to find a place and plonk themselves there instead, 'the internet' would still be the same as it is now. Do you mean people from the new colony might want to connect to get information from the old earth internet? Well that's a question of transferring data, which would need hard drives, not cables and servers.
 

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Earth won't melt, it will be engulfed by the sun as it expands due to its ever-reducing density as its fuel burns out.

But that's so far in the future, the planet will have probably gone through several new eras of species dominance (first being dinosaurs, second being mammals, then third, fourth etc being who knows what). 5 billion years from now. Human society will be long gone.

In the even that humans actually are able to find a place and plonk themselves there instead, 'the internet' would still be the same as it is now. Do you mean people from the new colony might want to connect to get information from the old earth internet? Well that's a question of transferring data, which would need hard drives, not cables and servers.
You have an interesting answer but you need think more optimistic-realistic.
I don't know so much about how transferring internet works so thanks for sharing!
I assume we will need internet for a long time and if people will live on different plants I believe we still want to communicate with each other! Much of our history and knowledge are online and internet is a powerful tool.
 

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You have an interesting answer but you need think more optimistic-realistic.
I don't know so much about how transferring internet works so thanks for sharing!
I assume we will need internet for a long time and if people will live on different plants I believe we still want to communicate with each other! Much of our history and knowledge are online and internet is a powerful tool.
I guess it would be possible to use some kind of deep space wifi system. You'd have to ask an electronic engineer about the complexities of it though!
 

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You have an interesting answer but you need think more optimistic-realistic.
I don't know so much about how transferring internet works so thanks for sharing!
I assume we will need internet for a long time and if people will live on different plants I believe we still want to communicate with each other! Much of our history and knowledge are online and internet is a powerful tool.
The issue is one of practicality. Already from Mars, the signal delay between your computer and a computer on Earth would be between 3 and 21 minutes, depending on where in their orbits the planets were located at the time. Then the response would take the same time back. Add to that the issue of bandwidth: How much data could you transfer per second across such a link?

In that sense HAL's response is extremely valid: You'd need to pack hard drives containing the information you need to have available on another planet and bring them along; creating a new, separate Internet on the other planet. Communication between the two Internets would be a trickle in comparison to what's possible between computers with mere thousands of kilometers of ground-based infrastructure between them.
 

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The issue is one of practicality. Already from Mars, the signal delay between your computer and a computer on Earth would be between 3 and 21 minutes, depending on where in their orbits the planets were located at the time. Then the response would take the same time back. Add to that the issue of bandwidth: How much data could you transfer per second across such a link?

In that sense HAL's response is extremely valid: You'd need to pack hard drives containing the information you need to have available on another planet and bring them along; creating a new, separate Internet on the other planet. Communication between the two Internets would be a trickle in comparison to what's possible between computers with mere thousands of kilometers of ground-based infrastructure between them.
Interesting. So if Aliens who were able to communicate like us were to contact us maybe they would not be that likely to primarily use the internets unless they landed on one of these planets earth first...? Idk
 

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Interesting. So if Aliens who were able to communicate like us were to contact us maybe they would not be that likely to primarily use the internets unless they landed on one of these planets earth first...? Idk
There's a difference between someone emitting signals indicating conscious intent ("There's intelligent life here at the point in time when this message is being sent") and feasible two-way communication. To give another example, Voyager 1 has barely left our Solar system, and rather than a signal requiring twentyish minutes to arrive (worst-case from Mars), the signal requires over nineteen and a half HOURS for a one-way trip. Say hello, and you'll get a reply almost two days later - and far longer if you have anything interesting to say.
And guess what: That "light year" way of calculating distance to other stars? That's also the way to calculate the fastest one-way communication time to them. So if you forgot your hard drive and want to browse Earth porn from Proxima Centauri, you'd better practice that patience...
 

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The Internet is going to be more widespread than ever.
We likely don't want it. We already have problem with NEETs, weabos, antisocials and retarded society.

We already have it on our refrigerators.
Yeah right, my 18 year old Daewoo probably has it too.

Communications will become more unified as we continue to switch our older technologies to the Internet.
Aren't they unified already?
 

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We likely don't want it. We already have problem with NEETs, weabos, antisocials and retarded society.


Yeah right, my 18 year old Daewoo probably has it too.


Aren't they unified already?
Unified Communciations refers to putting "realtime services" and "non-realtime services" onto the same network infrastructure. For example, having voice over IP phones and IP teleconferencing. We certainly are not already completely unified and I don't know if that is necessarily a giant vision for us, but is cheaper in some sense. There is also some benefit to the separation of networks. A company could have a dial-up connection going to their equipment so that if their internet access fails, they can still dial in and fix things using telephone wiring.

It's cheaper to make a phone call over the Internet than it is to make a phone call over the regular telephone system in terms of long distance. My school just recently switched to mostly use of VoIP phones. There are still regular telephone jacks in our rooms for some reason, not like anyone uses them. Obviously in a lot of houses people aren't using VoIP phones. We still have landline here. I know the US is the most corrupt and backward country when it comes to this stuff though.

A lot of people are getting video services from Netflix and such now instead of using cable. The discussion is really more relevant for businesses since people at homes don't necessarily "maintain networks" in that sense. There is still backward compatibility and conversions between Internet Phones and Regular Phones so it's not like we are completely unified.

I'm pretty sure IoT is expanding. I doubt this applies to every country in the universe because richer countries have more money to work with. But as I said before the US is pretty garbage because of a lack of investment. Imagine getting a notification that your toast is ready. That sounds kind of dumb, but we are moving in that direction it seems.
 

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Unified Communciations refers to putting "realtime services" and "non-realtime services" onto the same network infrastructure. For example, having voice over IP phones and IP teleconferencing. We certainly are not already completely unified and I don't know if that is necessarily a giant vision for us, but is cheaper in some sense. There is also some benefit to the separation of networks. A company could have a dial-up connection going to their equipment so that if their internet access fails, they can still dial in and fix things using telephone wiring.
So that's what you meant, I thought you mean all those smart devices.

It's cheaper to make a phone call over the Internet than it is to make a phone call over the regular telephone system in terms of long distance. My school just recently switched to mostly use of VoIP phones. There are still regular telephone jacks in our rooms for some reason, not like anyone uses them. Obviously in a lot of houses people aren't using VoIP phones. We still have landline here. I know the US is the most corrupt and backward country when it comes to this stuff though.
US as most corrupt and backwards? Haha XD no. Cute attempt tho.


A lot of people are getting video services from Netflix and such now instead of using cable. The discussion is really more relevant for businesses since people at homes don't necessarily "maintain networks" in that sense. There is still backward compatibility and conversions between Internet Phones and Regular Phones so it's not like we are completely unified.
ok then, you seem to me like touching irrelevant stuff for many people instead of something more relevant. i bet that more people are interested in Netflix, rather your suggested internet phones.


I'm pretty sure IoT is expanding. I doubt this applies to every country in the universe because richer countries have more money to work with. But as I said before the US is pretty garbage because of a lack of investment. Imagine getting a notification that your toast is ready. That sounds kind of dumb, but we are moving in that direction it seems.
That doesn't seems like it, but it is dumb. I have never seen tech like that in my country at all. US is likely one of the leading countries in tech and your complaining looks really meh to someone, who lives in way less advanced country. I couldn't even find RX 560 4GB model in like 8 shops.
 

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So that's what you meant, I thought you mean all those smart devices.


US as most corrupt and backwards? Haha XD no. Cute attempt tho.



ok then, you seem to me like touching irrelevant stuff for many people instead of something more relevant. i bet that more people are interested in Netflix, rather your suggested internet phones.



That doesn't seems like it, but it is dumb. I have never seen tech like that in my country at all. US is likely one of the leading countries in tech and your complaining looks really meh to someone, who lives in way less advanced country. I couldn't even find RX 560 4GB model in like 8 shops.
In terms of the network infrastructure between fiber-optics and cabling, the developing countries get newer technology while the US stills uses the same stuff we've been using for decades. There are plenty of examples in the US where we have had fiber-optics laid down, but completely unused. ISPs here are generally not considered to be the businesses to look up to here. Part of the anti-net neutrality argument was that fewer regulations would mean ISPs would invest more in infrastructure, but many people scoff at that claim due to the fact that these CEOs of those companies pocket money for themselves instead of investing and so forth with the political jargon. Not really worth getting into, but I think there is somewhat of a consensus that there is a messed up situation going on there.

GPUs, game systems and all those consumer products are likely a different story. I know that a lot of stuff costs more to buy in other countries. I should have separated those two things. Because I have heard multiple times that the US computer network infrastructure doesn't get changed and new ones get built in other countries which provide better technology. One of my professors joked that the Hurricanes represent great job opportunities for us because now that their old infrastructure is destroyed we will be able to lay down new stuff.

I mean those are just random examples. People switching from cable to Netflix is in a way unifying their communications to only internet. Internet phones also aren't limited to hard phones, but that also includes things like calling people over Facebook or Skype because those don't typically rely on using your telephone network. I've seen a few times people prefer to use Skype to make video calls to their distant families instead of regular telephone calls. But in the business world it just makes a lot more sense to use VoIP over long distance because it is cheaper.

The really irrelevant thing was the toaster thing. I don't know why anyone would want to push notification for their toast. It's possible though. I haven't really read too much about how it is progressing in the news or anything. But the term for that is IoT (Internet of Things) which brings to the table plenty of security concerns and stuff.

It seems like the wealthy get the technology first and then it comes down to the less wealthy afterward. One of my classroom topics was SCADA systems, which is basically how we network computers to monitor factory equipment. That has probably been useable by manufacturers longer than the average person has had their own personal computer measuring type devices like heartbeat sensors and Internet toasters. If you think about so was the Internet itself. Before regular people started using computer networking, it was used for very commercial purposes between businesses.

I do now confirm that SmartToasters exist for almost $200. Smart TVs and everything. I've never seen anyone with a smart toaster. I don't think most people have this type of stuff. But once you start looking at newer appliances, you might notice some form of connectivity to computers. It's there, but I haven't really seen it much either.
 

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The really irrelevant thing was the toaster thing. I don't know why anyone would want to push notification for their toast. It's possible though. I haven't really read too much about how it is progressing in the news or anything. But the term for that is IoT (Internet of Things) which brings to the table plenty of security concerns and stuff.
My grandfathers house got a new owner after he died and that guy updated his house to have lots of cameras and be super secure, but someone hired from a tv-company hacked his house in a program about the issue just to test it, and they opened his curtains from outside in a car.


I do now confirm that SmartToasters exist for almost $200. Smart TVs and everything. I've never seen anyone with a smart toaster. I don't think most people have this type of stuff. But once you start looking at newer appliances, you might notice some form of connectivity to computers. It's there, but I haven't really seen it much either.
I have ADHD and if I had that toaster I may not forget about the toast all together. Same goes for ppl with dementia, alzheimers, depression, etc who struggle with memory and consentration/distraction
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In terms of the network infrastructure between fiber-optics and cabling, the developing countries get newer technology while the US stills uses the same stuff we've been using for decades. There are plenty of examples in the US where we have had fiber-optics laid down, but completely unused. ISPs here are generally not considered to be the businesses to look up to here. Part of the anti-net neutrality argument was that fewer regulations would mean ISPs would invest more in infrastructure, but many people scoff at that claim due to the fact that these CEOs of those companies pocket money for themselves instead of investing and so forth with the political jargon. Not really worth getting into, but I think there is somewhat of a consensus that there is a messed up situation going on there.
That sucks for US. I live in states too. Mine are Baltic states. Once Lithuania had the fastest net in the whole world. I guess we are advanced in that field, but we can't solve other problems at all. Poverty is normal thing, vandals and thugs too.


GPUs, game systems and all those consumer products are likely a different story. I know that a lot of stuff costs more to buy in other countries. I should have separated those two things. Because I have heard multiple times that the US computer network infrastructure doesn't get changed and new ones get built in other countries which provide better technology. One of my professors joked that the Hurricanes represent great job opportunities for us because now that their old infrastructure is destroyed we will be able to lay down new stuff.
But on the other hand they had overpriced GTX 1050 Ti's everywhere. I only was able to find RX 560 2GB, which is already obsolete thing. So I ordered what I wanted. Now I have dual fan version of it with 4 gigs of VRAM. My point is that consumers shouldn't be treated like trash or be influenced by unfair availability of products. Even tho Nvidia and Intel have worst value, they are trying to be sold. Meanwhile AMD is something you have to search a lot in physical stores, only to find gimped variants of them. In USA you have at least some stores with great availability of products. There's some hope there, but not in the rest of the world. If your prof lived here and hurricane happened here too, then he would be funny man with wise words. Too bad I don't know usual situation in US, so I won't comment on that much, but he is a funny guy.


I mean those are just random examples. People switching from cable to Netflix is in a way unifying their communications to only internet. Internet phones also aren't limited to hard phones, but that also includes things like calling people over Facebook or Skype because those don't typically rely on using your telephone network. I've seen a few times people prefer to use Skype to make video calls to their distant families instead of regular telephone calls. But in the business world it just makes a lot more sense to use VoIP over long distance because it is cheaper.
You make sense here. That's very true, but some services are fucking evil and I want smack their CEOs in da face. You know why? Nah, you probably don't. Some of them are not available in many countries. Little did I knew after purchasing my first Xbox Live Gold that some stuff just simple won't work, because I live in bad region. I thought, that I live in Europe. The civilized place, too bad it wasn't true. Nowadays it's much less of the problem, but at rare times it happens.

The really irrelevant thing was the toaster thing. I don't know why anyone would want to push notification for their toast. It's possible though. I haven't really read too much about how it is progressing in the news or anything. But the term for that is IoT (Internet of Things) which brings to the table plenty of security concerns and stuff.
Before potato mania in computing memes, toasters were the poor victims of that. Maybe that somehow derived from that and someone thought it was a good idea lmao.


It seems like the wealthy get the technology first and then it comes down to the less wealthy afterward.
It's nothing new. My parents were using Athlon 64 system until 2017. I was suggesting them to sell it maybe 2013, so they could get some money for it. If it wasn't my knowledge about some older hardware it would have been sold for maybe 20 or 30 euros. Euro is like 1.2 dollar. Anyway I turned it into badass relic from the past, into Athlonium 64. At the 2004 Athlonium 64 before upgrades costed around 1200 euros. That's a lot, considering it didn't have decent graphics computational power and crappy 300W power supply and some other bits, that are more on the low end.

One of my classroom topics was SCADA systems, which is basically how we network computers to monitor factory equipment. That has probably been useable by manufacturers longer than the average person has had their own personal computer measuring type devices like heartbeat sensors and Internet toasters. If you think about so was the Internet itself. Before regular people started using computer networking, it was used for very commercial purposes between businesses.
And now they are like "look my new PC now has lots of RGBs!". We have honestly degraded. Benchmarks back then were measured in how well does business software work. Almost never games. Only the important things. I have read some older computer and tech magazines, like Maximum PC or Computer Bild (Lithuanian version of German magazine).


I do now confirm that SmartToasters exist for almost $200. Smart TVs and everything. I've never seen anyone with a smart toaster. I don't think most people have this type of stuff. But once you start looking at newer appliances, you might notice some form of connectivity to computers. It's there, but I haven't really seen it much either.
I would honestly ditch that Smart TV shit and would buy TV with 120Hz IPS display, that could output 100% sRGB colors and has sturdy construction. Many of those Smart TV qualities become no functional so soon that they are totally not worth it. On top of that many of them have horrible controls too. Having a keyboard for TV is a bit ridiculous, meanwhile voice controls are inaccurate. LG's smart remote was sort of nice thing for Smart functionality, but it sucked for normal TV stuff. They can't even make that stuff decently, they only want to put Smart stickers everywhere.


Another problem is people themselves. Many of them don't care about technology much and if they saw this video:

I bet that at least 20% would think it's legit in my country. Not because they are dum dum, just because they know nothing about tech at all. Effectively rendering lots of advancements in tech straight into trash can. But ya know, consumers are always right. My music teacher is right for hitting poor Samsung monitor, just because it turns off every 15 minutes. Obviously someone set turn off timer and she thinks it's malfunctioning. She likes to hit or smack other electronics too, then rant a bit lmao.
 

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That sucks for US. I live in states too. Mine are Baltic states. Once Lithuania had the fastest net in the whole world. I guess we are advanced in that field, but we can't solve other problems at all. Poverty is normal thing, vandals and thugs too.



But on the other hand they had overpriced GTX 1050 Ti's everywhere. I only was able to find RX 560 2GB, which is already obsolete thing. So I ordered what I wanted. Now I have dual fan version of it with 4 gigs of VRAM. My point is that consumers shouldn't be treated like trash or be influenced by unfair availability of products. Even tho Nvidia and Intel have worst value, they are trying to be sold. Meanwhile AMD is something you have to search a lot in physical stores, only to find gimped variants of them. In USA you have at least some stores with great availability of products. There's some hope there, but not in the rest of the world. If your prof lived here and hurricane happened here too, then he would be funny man with wise words. Too bad I don't know usual situation in US, so I won't comment on that much, but he is a funny guy.



You make sense here. That's very true, but some services are fucking evil and I want smack their CEOs in da face. You know why? Nah, you probably don't. Some of them are not available in many countries. Little did I knew after purchasing my first Xbox Live Gold that some stuff just simple won't work, because I live in bad region. I thought, that I live in Europe. The civilized place, too bad it wasn't true. Nowadays it's much less of the problem, but at rare times it happens.


Before potato mania in computing memes, toasters were the poor victims of that. Maybe that somehow derived from that and someone thought it was a good idea lmao.



It's nothing new. My parents were using Athlon 64 system until 2017. I was suggesting them to sell it maybe 2013, so they could get some money for it. If it wasn't my knowledge about some older hardware it would have been sold for maybe 20 or 30 euros. Euro is like 1.2 dollar. Anyway I turned it into badass relic from the past, into Athlonium 64. At the 2004 Athlonium 64 before upgrades costed around 1200 euros. That's a lot, considering it didn't have decent graphics computational power and crappy 300W power supply and some other bits, that are more on the low end.


And now they are like "look my new PC now has lots of RGBs!". We have honestly degraded. Benchmarks back then were measured in how well does business software work. Almost never games. Only the important things. I have read some older computer and tech magazines, like Maximum PC or Computer Bild (Lithuanian version of German magazine).



I would honestly ditch that Smart TV shit and would buy TV with 120Hz IPS display, that could output 100% sRGB colors and has sturdy construction. Many of those Smart TV qualities become no functional so soon that they are totally not worth it. On top of that many of them have horrible controls too. Having a keyboard for TV is a bit ridiculous, meanwhile voice controls are inaccurate. LG's smart remote was sort of nice thing for Smart functionality, but it sucked for normal TV stuff. They can't even make that stuff decently, they only want to put Smart stickers everywhere.


Another problem is people themselves. Many of them don't care about technology much and if they saw this video:

I bet that at least 20% would think it's legit in my country. Not because they are dum dum, just because they know nothing about tech at all. Effectively rendering lots of advancements in tech straight into trash can. But ya know, consumers are always right. My music teacher is right for hitting poor Samsung monitor, just because it turns off every 15 minutes. Obviously someone set turn off timer and she thinks it's malfunctioning. She likes to hit or smack other electronics too, then rant a bit lmao.
https://www.cnet.com/news/fcc-us-slow-internet-speed-americans-lagging/
It's a year old but kind of discusses the problem.

I'm sure that you can come to the local electronics store and pick a GTX 1060 off the shelf here and they would have more to spare. This is the wealthiest country in the world. Of course it's also full of wealth inequality as well. Go beyond electronics, the US probably has a lot of availability of products compared to poorer nations. Even clothing is cheaper here. My "stepmother" is from Ecuador, she literally buys clothes here and then gives them to her family and they can sell them. Ah, but they have cheaper medicine than we do.

I remember there was backlash during the Xbox One announcement because they said you had to connect to the Internet to activate games or something. Some countries don't even have internet so it would have been useless.

I don't know how much computers used to be. I think I looked up our family's original computer from 2000. It had an AMD Duron which turns out to be a low-end processor but it did have 8MB graphics. I think it was at least $700, but I don't remember. If you want low-end now, you can get something for maybe $300. Low-powered computers that are like mini-itx inside lightweight cases. I had one of those in my room before we gave it away. Completely non-upgradable except for HDD and RAM. We also have my cousin an all in one PC with the same incredibly low specs. It had 6GB of RAM, but not like that matters when it was dual-core 1.4GHz AMD APU. Weak. It seems like people more interested in computers will buy something more powerful. That AMD thing works for basic web browsing or giving it to grandma to use take Internet out for a spin. But not much else.

I was watching some educational or training videos by a guy on YouTube talking about networking and he recommended that you pay for business internet because companies treat businesses with respect but homes get bad service.

Kids at my school have small smart TVs or game consoles and it's perfect for them to watch Netflix or something instead of the lackluster basic cable the school gives us. A lot of people I know hate TV now. I don't watch TV is a common phrase. But in my house, we have a giant smart TV, but nobody bothers to use the smart part of it. They just watch cable. I occasionally use it to watch YouTube. If you want a big tv go for it, but unused smart functionality is a waste of money. It also is not very intuitive to use, but not the worst thing in the world.

I don't know about 120Hz. The Soap Opera Effect annoys me a lot. Makes everything look fake. Plus, the whole point of it is to overcome the inherent weaknesses of LCD. LCD has a slow response time which makes it horrid to play games on. I'm not talking about input lag either (I've never noticed input lag, I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't notice that) but low response time because that as the picture moves everything will leave a nasty trail of blurriness. On top of that, they have very poor black levels and low contrast ratios. Another crutch is given called "dynamic contrast ratio" which is just another marketing term. It is the most marketable technology, it is cheap, bright and energy efficient. Also, don't forget high resolution. I'll tell you, when your entire screen gets blurry from moving objects that high resolution doesn't a mean a thing. I guess people enjoy it for some reason. I am lucky enough to have DLP TV in my room, which generally has a tiny response time and black almost actually looks like the black instead of bluish black. Or if you have the backlight set all the way up as many people do, there is no black at all. You can only get over that but turning lights on which cancel it out a little bit. It makes perfect sense on a smartphone though. Really bright for really bright environments and it uses a steady amount of power no matter what color is on the screen. Bad black levels are remedied by bright environments like outdoors. The Internet is mostly white pages. Perfect. Yet, they made OLED phones mainstream. They use less power than LED on darker or mixed brightness images. But they consume more power when displaying white screens. Which is worse in my opinion for a phone since the Internet is white and making it black just makes it harder to see in the sun. It should be mainstream of television instead and computer monitors because it has much better picture quality in terms of color, contrast and everything. Only disadvantage is the degradation of the display is uneven and probably faster than regular LED. I think LCD is best for viewing text hands down, it has no screen burn-in potential at all. Good for computer monitors and smartphones. Not for movies or gaming.
 

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Toasters have USB-ports.
Hm, interesting, so this method might be how the guy hacked the curtains to open from outside my old (now dead) grandfathers house...(like I mentioned above somewhere).

Still, I assume he would first have to crack the password to get into the house-owner to access his network? It shouldn't be that easy. Even they did use a password-generator code I assume the computer would lock it self up after a certain amount of tries for some time at least before they could try again? So they would have to have a lot of patience and sit there for hours? It's kinda creepy to think about that someone can just connect to your network like that and have fun with your gadgets.
 
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