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Though I have the ability to create labels I'm talking about a tendency rathan ability and I'm wondering if anyone can relate.

All my life I've felt the need to search out labels that can fit and explain my personality. I am a :

- type A
- pisces
-zodiac horse
- middle child
- fire element ( this one was way out there )
- son of an overbearing mother
- ennegram 2
- " all or nothing " personality
- the healer king ( what my name means)
- of coarse INFJ
- IINFJ male ( its a category all its own)
- the artist
- the world conquerer
- the ennabler
- the writer
- the scholar
- the agnostic
- weird ( yea I labeled myself that )
- and the list goes on...

My quest for self discovery has somewhat gone out of control. Perhaps labeling ourselves is wrong. But at the same time our labels are how we navigate through and express our "self". What are your "labels" and do you have any thoughts on discovering self ?
 

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My brother is INFJ and most definitely a "human label maker". Could not really think of a better way to describe him! He instinctively labels/categorizes people without even trying.
 

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I've been really into that sort of thing lately as well. I see the labels more [now] as a different film to put over your view of the world, it's a different angle of perspective. I try to limit myself when I see myself starting to slip into taking labels as being more concrete than they should. Don't put yourself in a box. I read something about introverted intuition being more about looking at "the box" rather than being in or out of "the box". This could be reason why we might be attracted to personality theories and the labelling. Looking at these boxes really interests me. I just have to remind myself not to take it too far. Too many people fall back on excuses. They don't try because "that's just how I am". Weaknesses can AT LEAST be something to TRY to make better.
 

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This may come off insensitive but I've always thought people who try to label themselves are no where close to self-discovery. The confines of each label only positions the individual to look for another label. I can make the same list you have and I've used it for small talk. But the route to self-discovery is never in the labels but in what one holds important to them in their life.
 

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I label myself and others. But my labels are not boxes that I stuff others into, they are blueprints from which I build upward, or sometimes a framework to give a larger concept structure.

I'm largely a visual thinker, so my concepts of people already exist -- not limited by words or communicable concepts. Labels give these ideas structure. If I decide that someone is probably an INFP, my mind automatically cross-refrences with the other INFPs I know, and the general knowlege that I have about the type. And then from there on, it's a game of finding how much they actually fit that.

It both provides details and limits details in one shot. And it's always in probabilities, never certainties. That's what I work from. It helps me understand people better.

A question for everyone else, though. Do people ever get offended by your labelling? I have a friend who was somewhat bugged by my almost-obsessive interest in personality typing and the like, and explained that she felt it was limiting people (very much like what Monkey King said). This same friend later expressed that I always seemed to understand her so well, something that not many people could do. This is my way of understanding people <shrugs>
 

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I have a friend who was somewhat bugged by my almost-obsessive interest in personality typing and the like, and explained that she felt it was limiting people (very much like what Monkey King said). This same friend later expressed that I always seemed to understand her so well, something that not many people could do. This is my way of understanding people <shrugs>
I think perhaps many people might approach personality typing in a way they might approach a horoscope; searching for an answer to who they are or are not, and what they should or should not do. Like you, I see it as an attempt to empirically categorise people by shared features and tendencies that might reveal something useful. But I tend to keep it to myself. And to a great degree, I am not interested in truly knowing other people's personality metrics, as I do not want to mentally put them in a box. Also, I believe that today's psychometric personality tests are only capturing a small, but important piece of personality. But moreso, I do not want others to know that I innately categorise them, because I think many people would feel limited by this categorisation, when in reality, they are not.
 

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The only labels I accept are the ones that describe my views on humanity and how I perceive myself as a wishful bringer of change to people's lives.

No I'm not saying that I have some sort of "I'm a hero and I want to change the world" fixation. But .. no matter what happens, I'm passionate about life.

Labelling can never help with a positive view of the self because with each label there is both good and bad. Until you seek out yourself under your own label [the word you choose for yourself that is unique to you], you'll never be able to discover who you really are.
 

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I don't like to label others since I don't like to be label myself. At the same time, how we view the word label is completely up to us. For example, in high school you have all the different groups with different labels. The jocks, the nerds, the preps, and so forth. Or like @SilentScream said, people tend to use the word label for the views on humanity. Our perception of the word label is different to many people.

If you were to label someone without getting to fully know them, I can see why people can be upset toward that because you can't judge the book by its cover.
 

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Labels restrict

People shouldn't be restricted or even can be restricted.

Labels draw imaginary lines in the sand that you, yourself will begin to unconsciously fulfill. Your own cognitive constructions will hold you back and tie you into being those labels. It creates more needless shackles on your psyche. Beyond what we all struggle with, self esteem, confidence, worth, identity, social acceptance, the list goes on.

Why create more? Why not free yourself?

When a bird is bogged and weighed down it cannot soar alongside the clouds.

“Any fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius-and a lot of courage-to move in the opposite direction.” - Albert Einstein
 

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It's so easy to lose hold of my sense of self, when I'm out in the world, as I think so intensely about others, and it does help, to have some sense of self to walk around with, just in case I forget. It's not lack of self-knowledge, not really -- it's more like a momentary lapse of contact with the self, like I've lost communication with the mother ship and am floating around in space. It is unsettling.

The word label has all sorts of connotations having to do with stereotypes and hasty generalizations and that sort of thing, though. So maybe they're not labels but more like little symbols that represent aspects of the self. It's not a label that limits because there's a world inside each one. To think about them all at once (to think about the self all at once), we'd have to sew together all those worlds and try to swallow them all at once, which would choke us, I'm pretty sure -- so we have these little symbols, words, phrases, like buttons that we can sew on a coat, then walk around in, all toasty-like.

... or it could be that's just me.
 

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The thing I don't like about labels, is that it tries to define you.

The only label I am comfortable holding is my name. I have given up trying to make labels for my religious and political ideologies for years. If I chose Anarco-socialism, for example (an ideology which I find quite interesting), I'd be lending my voice to the community of anarcho socialists, whose opinions I do not agree with in all cases.

No label can fit me 100%, and no political/religious/ethical ideology will I ever agree with 100%. So screw all those labels. And screw everyone who tries to label you too.

None of them will ever do you justice.
 

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I don't have a problem with labels themselves, it's the negative connotations that people attach to them that I don't like. For instance, I am perfectly fine with labeling myself as "female" because that is what I am. It only becomes limiting when people place limits on that label and in doing so, on me. I own the labels I give myself, they don't own me.
 

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I find that I usually label people when I'm feeling down or angry. I may think that a person is an introvert/extratvert, etc, but it doesn't mean that that is what that person will always be. It's just something I've noticed about said person. Overall though, I think people are constantly flowing. We may have natural inclinations, but it doesn't mean we'll always be "that way". There are so many different sides to a person. For Example: INFJs may have different layers to them that aren't seen by many people. Only a select few get to the core. We may be labled introverted, or quiet, but that doesn't mean we will never do something extraverted around people. The world is full of different tints and shades of gray.

Personally, I don't think an INFJ would label people just because it's easier(unless he/she is upset). It would be used in the hopes of better understanding someone and their behavior.
 

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Though I have the ability to create labels I'm talking about a tendency rathan ability and I'm wondering if anyone can relate.

All my life I've felt the need to search out labels that can fit and explain my personality. I am a :

- type A
- pisces
-zodiac horse
- middle child
- fire element ( this one was way out there )
- son of an overbearing mother
- ennegram 2
- " all or nothing " personality
- the healer king ( what my name means)
- of coarse INFJ
- IINFJ male ( its a category all its own)
- the artist
- the world conquerer
- the ennabler
- the writer
- the scholar
- the agnostic
- weird ( yea I labeled myself that )
- and the list goes on...

My quest for self discovery has somewhat gone out of control. Perhaps labeling ourselves is wrong. But at the same time our labels are how we navigate through and express our "self". What are your "labels" and do you have any thoughts on discovering self ?
I had a phase like that in my late teens as I was trying to make sense of who I was. I think the most amusing label that I ever stuck to myself was "Druid". Haha. "Yeah, if I do it just right, I'm pretty sure I can make that guys head over there explode". I did a lot of pot in those days, too :)

Totally blaming that now.

Having gone through that phase I see a real danger now in lables, in the power of labels, in the inaccuracy and containing nature of labels. Mostly it's because we have a need to belong, I believe, that I see labels as potentially very dangerous. People do create labels, you know, for their own purposes, knowing the power of it, and the need that it feeds.

Not all labels are benign, or merely eccentric, but can be very self destructive, to the point where ones own happiness is seen as an enemy on the path to "ones own true self" which fills the belonging need.

I'm gonna kick my own ass so hard if it turns out one day that my fascination with the MBTI stems from a similar place. I don't think it does. I hope that I have been rational and observant enough to see myself for who I am truthfully without trying to be something, following a description, without me noticing it.
 

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lol non-INFJ's opinions...

as for not labeling... Everyone labels. Even the certain someones talking about not labeling ppl is labeling those that do label in a round-about fashion.

we judge. Everyone does. We just accept it and are glad to be able to pick our own labels.

we are very accurate with our labels for others, usually, and so it is natural that we try our best to label ourselves also. It can be a liberating experience for someone such as an INFJ who is so vastly different then everyone else in the world it seems. If your not an INFJ, i rly dont think you have a clue about it.

for what its worth, i like to label myself often. But for others, i'm not sure if i assign names or types. They are rly "ppl i like" "ppl i dont mind being around from time to time" "ppl i don't like all that much" "ppl i don't rly know nor have any reason to get to know" "ppl i just dont like and cant be convinced otherwise" "ppl that get under my skin" and then the final category of "ppl i rly rly rly dont like and will do my utmost to avoid."

those seem to me the best way to judge ppl. And i can care less about more labels for them cuz none of them are worth my time in detail. I have labels for myself i want to start making true or continuing to be. Lol
 

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Labels are always going to be around. I believe the trick is to know this and understand what they can do as @Sheppard says. We aren't infallible. We can become a label. They can be used as an indentifier and are. As long as, we don't box ourself in; throw negative conntations on them as @Vivid Melody says; or use them in a harmful way then what is the harm to use them to express an understanding or idea. I believe if you can't do this then leave them alone, but I don't see that as possible. We all are human...we are wired to do so, whether we choose to use labels/catergorizing/stereotyping or not. A very interesting article: We're Only Human...: The Neurology of Stereotypes
 

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I label myself and others. But my labels are not boxes that I stuff others into, they are blueprints from which I build upward, or sometimes a framework to give a larger concept structure.

I'm largely a visual thinker, so my concepts of people already exist -- not limited by words or communicable concepts. Labels give these ideas structure. If I decide that someone is probably an INFP, my mind automatically cross-refrences with the other INFPs I know, and the general knowlege that I have about the type. And then from there on, it's a game of finding how much they actually fit that.

It both provides details and limits details in one shot. And it's always in probabilities, never certainties. That's what I work from. It helps me understand people better.

A question for everyone else, though. Do people ever get offended by your labelling? I have a friend who was somewhat bugged by my almost-obsessive interest in personality typing and the like, and explained that she felt it was limiting people (very much like what Monkey King said). This same friend later expressed that I always seemed to understand her so well, something that not many people could do. This is my way of understanding people <shrugs>
I LOVE THIS - beautifully put! I think this recognizes a more sophisticated frame of thought and personally, gives me greater insight into how to more positively use labels, stereotypes, and the like (useful but not perfect, and not without its flaws). :wink:
 

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I always feel like I have to label myself. without labeling, I'd feel like I'm lost or I don't know myself or something like that. but labeling can create boundaries, it's like races and nationalities. however, this does not stop me from identify/categorize things.

I understand some people don't like labeling as they feel like they don't need it (I suppose these people are Perceivers). I, on the other hand, feel the need to label all the time, it helps me to sort things out somehow.
 
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