INTP sp/so 9w1 6w5 4w5
Friend: What do I do if the store is out of toilet paper?
.Friend: What do I do if the store is out of toilet paper?
I was just saying something similar to a few coworkers and my supervisors, since I'm in a new workplace learning new procedures and things. I made the statement something to the effect of - I'm not really a person where you sit the thing in front of me and say "here do this, do it this way" because it doesn't make sense to me. I need to know underlying things and why and so on.. that's why I ask the questions I do. Even if I have a template or something to copy from, I am not really learning and it still doesn't make sense what or why I'm doing something, the reason for it, the piece in the big picture, etc.me: question.
him: it's irrelevant.
me: it isn't. i need to know this, or it will not make sense. therefore it is not irrelevant.
him: what do you mean, 'or it will not make sense'. it makes sense.
me: what i'm telling you, dude. not to me.
him: well, you need to keep up with the class.
me: YOU need to answer my fucking question so i can 'keep up' with the fucking class.
me: i don't understand this part of it.
him: it's obvious.
me: no, it isn't. [nuance] and [nuance] too.
me: i don't know which one is right.
him: it doesn't make any difference.
me: but . . . it does though. it does.
him: anyway, you're slowing everything down.
tl;dr: was supposed to spend the long weekend 'catching up' on my own, and did not.
It's exhausting sometimes, ime. And I'm a bit daunted by how much childish trauma-reaction is still lurking there. I have been control-freaking my own learning process for such a long time that I thought I had hold of the problem itself. But obviously I don't. Not in a 'classroom' format, anyway.was one of those "why would you even ask that, it's irrelevant" things - but to me it's not. I can't just DO THE THING without knowing like some people do.
It's exhausting sometimes, ime. And I'm a bit daunted by how much childish trauma-reaction is still lurking there. I have been control-freaking my own learning process for such a long time that I thought I had hold of the problem itself. But obviously I don't. Not in a 'classroom' format, anyway.
I think I've been bullying my way towards getting my comprehension needs met by isolating my victims and carving them out if the herd where I can get them alone. 'Yo. Peon. Explain this to me' kind of mode. 'Don't bother me with whatever you think, cough up the fact that I want and shut up. '
It doesn't work in classrooms, where the preemptive power is all at the front of the room - unless you have a genuine, enlightened teacher who doesn't want it that way. I remember years ago talking to a professional salesman socially, and he cut me off all of a sudden and said 'are you a teacher?' No, why? 'teachers. I hate 'em. They're always trying to be in control. ' he was a typical salesman so I sneered at him :tongue: but he was right that left to my own needs I'm conversationally bossier than people expect. I can do that 1:1 but I don't feel right doing it when it's 1 against the collective needs of a whole class. Sigh.
I like to apply them as I learn them. Like buying something new and wanting to play with it immediately. But I don't like doing someone else's prescribed 'exercises'. If I get it, there is no better challenge to your comprehension than making up your own 'tests' that will make you use the knowledge. That's when I get it. I wander away on my own thing g and stop paying attention . When I don't get it, repeatedly doing 'exercises' doesn't lpe, so I get sullen and uppity. I'm way more of a problem child than anyone around me ever knew.I actually learn in classes fine, it's more when we get down to nitty gritty where I have to apply things
Allegany county is so boring even the virus stays out of there:jazz:
I recall a random history teacher moment where he said that if the governor ever came over there, he wouldn't be leaving. I think it is because the residents were politically opposed to him or felt undernourished with state support. That's why the governor never goes over there.Allegany county is so boring even the virus stays out of there:jazz:
My mother could use Zoom, much easier because it allow people using it without registering and signing in albeit can only passively invited rather than actively inviting. I heard house party is also a good app.In the meantime, my mother is trying to use Skype. She might have it figured out by May. :dry: