@SaiKick, I thought he is really a grandpa, at least in age terms. I believe he mentioned it in the "INTP built society" thread (or some other one). Or perhaps I am seeing things, and he's actually a spritely 13 year old. In fact, that could still be the case if what I read I really read, I suppose.
The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTPs
I thought that we could use a thread like this. I know there is a "confessions" thread, but that's not quite the same, and we haven't had a proper "INTP Madness" thread (which is my reading of "stream of consciousness") since the crush thread and it's ill-begotten clones were banished to the Land of Winds and Ghosts (also known as Spam World).
So (copying from the original):
Take issue with something going on in society?
Having a bad day?
Have something on your mind that wont go away?
Experience something so fabulous you just have to express it?
Accidentally sold your mother to a pimp in a back alley game of poker?
Have an idea, or discover something so amazing you must tell everyone?
Post your vent (or experience, idea, etc.) here!
Note(s):
This thread is not for venting about other members, the moderators, or the forum.
Don't over-spam the thread (I can't expect INTPs not to spam a least a little) lest it be sent screaming into the spam-abyss.
So (copying from the original):
Take issue with something going on in society?
Having a bad day?
Have something on your mind that wont go away?
Experience something so fabulous you just have to express it?
Accidentally sold your mother to a pimp in a back alley game of poker?
Have an idea, or discover something so amazing you must tell everyone?
Post your vent (or experience, idea, etc.) here!
Note(s):
This thread is not for venting about other members, the moderators, or the forum.
Don't over-spam the thread (I can't expect INTPs not to spam a least a little) lest it be sent screaming into the spam-abyss.
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Stupid Sydney traffic! I hate that it takes me an hour or more to travel what would otherwise take 15-20 minutes outside peak hour. I just want to get home damn it! I like to imagine, while stuck in traffic, not moving, that I have some kind of x-men style telekinetic power, and I can just push the cars in front of me violently aside in a wave of shrieking metal and fiery chaotic destruction. Or that I could teleport. Although, this doesn't bring as big a smile to my face (my mental face. INTPs don't have physical smiling capabilities).
oh, grandpa told me in another thread he wasn't really a "grandpa"-- it was just a term his friends use to describe his personality.@SaiKick, I thought he is really a grandpa, at least in age terms. I believe he mentioned it in the "INTP built society" thread (or some other one). Or perhaps I am seeing things, and he's actually a spritely 13 year old. In fact, that could still be the case if what I read I really read, I suppose.
you got Trolled! lol
Someone lied on the internet?! This is an OUTRAGE!!!!
Well I will not change from what I am. I have not changed in the past 21 years, another 30 will not make a difference.I am actually a little bit sad that you are not really a grandpa. You seemed "young at heart" which was refreshing, as most of the "grandpas" encountered in daily life exhibit the cliche scroogey miser attitude. Faces that have a look of disgust whenever they view whatever you're doing-- knowing that they just disapprove of you in general.
Besides, the grandfathers I know are fun. They are pretty cool.
where did I say I was a spritely 13 year old? lol. No, I am 20 (21 in October).@SaiKick, I thought he is really a grandpa, at least in age terms. I believe he mentioned it in the "INTP built society" thread (or some other one). Or perhaps I am seeing things, and he's actually a spritely 13 year old. In fact, that could still be the case if what I read I really read, I suppose.
P.S. I was not trolling. It is the only Username I could think of.
edit: you can pretend I am a grandpa if it means that much to you.Well I will not change from what I am. I have not changed in the past 21 years, another 30 will not make a difference.
"Preggers" = you blasted the womp rat, in so many wordsI'd vote for
[You > Obama > Bush] but < Clinton
haha my logic is pwnz
i had a girl say she thought she was "preggers" ... "what should I do???" in so many words
it is definitely not the issue for an INTP male to handle, especially when I'm still, months later, trying to wrap my head around the word "preggers"
I'm all for the evolution of language as long as the new developments are semi-intelligent sounding.
Like I no longer say "that's gay" to mean "that's stupid". I now say "that possesses a lively and merry disposition" and "that prefers the company of those of the same sex". That wooshing sound is this going over the heads of 95% I say it around.
This is at it's maximum humor potential when read in Professor Farnsworth's voice.Stupid Sydney traffic! I hate that it takes me an hour or more to travel what would otherwise take 15-20 minutes outside peak hour. I just want to get home damn it! I like to imagine, while stuck in traffic, not moving, that I have some kind of x-men style telekinetic power, and I can just push the cars in front of me violently aside in a wave of shrieking metal and fiery chaotic destruction. Or that I could teleport. Although, this doesn't bring as big a smile to my face (my mental face. INTPs don't have physical smiling capabilities).
I always try to see everything from every angle and not rush into conclusions. I always try to spot assumptions which have too big gaps in their reasoning (or rather, there is a lack of proper reasoning). I always try to spot when someone (or myself) is taking something as a truth too easily. And misconceptions...
Assumption alarm was also blinking for me when I was reading through this thread, but I won't go into details. After all, it is good when mind wonders, it's just that sometimes the filters are slacking on duty.
When I happen to argue with someone, my statements are usually not solid (I mean there are not many things I FIRMLY believe), although they might seem so for the person who I am arguing (more like debating, really) with. But I just simply have to take a position when arguing or debating, even if I don't firmly believe it (but there are no better alternatives at that moment).
Anyway, an example of assuming and not listening to reasoning:
I happened to chat with someone on some third webpage, he thought a person can change anything about his personality if he just tried hard enough. I disagreed. For example I've read that introversion (or extraversion) comes from birth and you can't change it about yourself, however you can overcome your shyness or low self-esteem, or whatever keeps you back from talking to people if you feel like that. I gave him the MBTI test, but before doing it, he argued, that the answer would be meaningless, because he could be another person whenever he just wanted. He seemed not to listen to my reasoning about how introversion is not something you can really change, since it just means that a person is energized by being alone and whose energy is drained by being around other people. Trying to be extraverted if you are introverted is like trying to be left handed if you are right handed. After a while he refused to talk about it.
Why do I feel like I can think more "straight" than most people? And that I can often tell the difference between bullshit and things that seem to hold more truth in them, unlike many people who just take things or ideas for granted. But it comes with a lot of analyzing and overthinking. Plus I am double-guessing even my own statements. Pretty much all of them in my post for example, but I find it rather enjoyable, to have open options.
It annoys me how assuming people can be and thus they believe a lot of crap. But I guess each of us has our own place in the world and we have to be different and all have our strenghts and weaknesses.
By the way I am not taking MBT for granted either, however it is a nice theory. I just wonder why it doesn't seem to be very popular in more scientific circles (unless I am missing something), so that there seem to be no good and thorough articles on cognitive processes (of MBT) for example. Which annoys me. I haven't searched for them much, but I get that feeling..
I wanted to say something else, but I forget..
I feel like rambling, it's 3am.
Assumption alarm was also blinking for me when I was reading through this thread, but I won't go into details. After all, it is good when mind wonders, it's just that sometimes the filters are slacking on duty.
When I happen to argue with someone, my statements are usually not solid (I mean there are not many things I FIRMLY believe), although they might seem so for the person who I am arguing (more like debating, really) with. But I just simply have to take a position when arguing or debating, even if I don't firmly believe it (but there are no better alternatives at that moment).
Anyway, an example of assuming and not listening to reasoning:
I happened to chat with someone on some third webpage, he thought a person can change anything about his personality if he just tried hard enough. I disagreed. For example I've read that introversion (or extraversion) comes from birth and you can't change it about yourself, however you can overcome your shyness or low self-esteem, or whatever keeps you back from talking to people if you feel like that. I gave him the MBTI test, but before doing it, he argued, that the answer would be meaningless, because he could be another person whenever he just wanted. He seemed not to listen to my reasoning about how introversion is not something you can really change, since it just means that a person is energized by being alone and whose energy is drained by being around other people. Trying to be extraverted if you are introverted is like trying to be left handed if you are right handed. After a while he refused to talk about it.
Why do I feel like I can think more "straight" than most people? And that I can often tell the difference between bullshit and things that seem to hold more truth in them, unlike many people who just take things or ideas for granted. But it comes with a lot of analyzing and overthinking. Plus I am double-guessing even my own statements. Pretty much all of them in my post for example, but I find it rather enjoyable, to have open options.
It annoys me how assuming people can be and thus they believe a lot of crap. But I guess each of us has our own place in the world and we have to be different and all have our strenghts and weaknesses.
By the way I am not taking MBT for granted either, however it is a nice theory. I just wonder why it doesn't seem to be very popular in more scientific circles (unless I am missing something), so that there seem to be no good and thorough articles on cognitive processes (of MBT) for example. Which annoys me. I haven't searched for them much, but I get that feeling..
I wanted to say something else, but I forget..
I feel like rambling, it's 3am.
I'm having a manic attack
it's like temporarily becoming an ESFJ and ESFP simultaneously
this is why my own type (INTP) has a hard time believing I am one of them--
the bi-polar symptoms and ADHD kick in 1/3rd of the week.
it's like temporarily becoming an ESFJ and ESFP simultaneously
this is why my own type (INTP) has a hard time believing I am one of them--
the bi-polar symptoms and ADHD kick in 1/3rd of the week.
I've been thinking about buying some cheap land in the countryside, really isolated, and building a cabin with a hidden basement stocked with provisions and what not, just in case Great Depression Part 2 happens causing (because I don't think modern society can handle this) societal collapse (at least temporarily). Am I being paranoid?
Bah, this will probably be my latest two week obsession, which I'll forget when I start trying to learn how to program a genocidal AI with a god complex, or how to make some kind of human-reptile hybrid, or whatever...
Bah, this will probably be my latest two week obsession, which I'll forget when I start trying to learn how to program a genocidal AI with a god complex, or how to make some kind of human-reptile hybrid, or whatever...
INTPs are like Windows. You may think there's nothing going on when you look at it, but if you open the processes panel, it's a mess, and half of the memory is filled with useless stuff. Then you end the useless tasks to increase productivity, but every time you reset the system, they're there again.
Thinking about transgender stuff...
It's hard to deny that it's weird. It is. I think even the most staunch activists can realize that what they're doing isn't normal and is going to raise some eyebrows, no matter how much they insist that it's natural. That's no grounds to start discriminating and denying people their rights, including that to feel like an accepted member of society. But is it really plausible?
You can't deny a man's right to be a woman if he so pleases, but you can't deny another man the right to his feelings on the matter, either.
And what with the whole aspect of it being some sort of mental disease... That's a very subjective definition indeed. Ideally, we'd all be able to do whatever we wanted so long as we were comfortable with it, but there's that stupid aspect of conformity that messes with people's individuality and even their own judgments of other people. It's not really a disease if it doesn't impair your or anybody else's functioning. Otherwise, it's just an eccentricity. Eccentricities are harmless. They're just weird. And a little weird never hurt anybody, now, did it?
It's hard to deny that it's weird. It is. I think even the most staunch activists can realize that what they're doing isn't normal and is going to raise some eyebrows, no matter how much they insist that it's natural. That's no grounds to start discriminating and denying people their rights, including that to feel like an accepted member of society. But is it really plausible?
You can't deny a man's right to be a woman if he so pleases, but you can't deny another man the right to his feelings on the matter, either.
And what with the whole aspect of it being some sort of mental disease... That's a very subjective definition indeed. Ideally, we'd all be able to do whatever we wanted so long as we were comfortable with it, but there's that stupid aspect of conformity that messes with people's individuality and even their own judgments of other people. It's not really a disease if it doesn't impair your or anybody else's functioning. Otherwise, it's just an eccentricity. Eccentricities are harmless. They're just weird. And a little weird never hurt anybody, now, did it?
I agree with you. Including the bit about rights. However, one thing I do not think they should have the right to do (especially if it is considered a mental disorder) is to raise children. We can not know exactly the effect this has on a child because all we have right now are statistics.Thinking about transgender stuff...
It's hard to deny that it's weird. It is. I think even the most staunch activists can realize that what they're doing isn't normal and is going to raise some eyebrows, no matter how much they insist that it's natural. That's no grounds to start discriminating and denying people their rights, including that to feel like an accepted member of society. But is it really plausible?
You can't deny a man's right to be a woman if he so pleases, but you can't deny another man the right to his feelings on the matter, either.
And what with the whole aspect of it being some sort of mental disease... That's a very subjective definition indeed. Ideally, we'd all be able to do whatever we wanted so long as we were comfortable with it, but there's that stupid aspect of conformity that messes with people's individuality and even their own judgments of other people. It's not really a disease if it doesn't impair your or anybody else's functioning. Otherwise, it's just an eccentricity. Eccentricities are harmless. They're just weird. And a little weird never hurt anybody, now, did it?
dayam even when it is spoken to someone else I still get an vicarious ego boost to see INTP's showing so much love and light this never happens in my real life hahahahah it is like heresy for an INTP to mutter these words so this place must have some ecstasy-like healing powerzzzzzzzzzzzzzz i'm still unable to sleepI agree with you.
how bout that for a true VENT INTJ's! bam take that.
You are being sarcastic?dayam even when it is spoken to someone else I still get an vicarious ego boost to see INTP's showing so much love and light this never happens in my real life hahahahah it is like heresy for an INTP to mutter these words so this place must have some ecstasy-like healing powerzzzzzzzzzzzzzz i'm still unable to sleep
how bout that for a true VENT INTJ's! bam take that.
lol.
wow. Grandpa-- only a few days and you're skills are improving drastically!!!!You are being sarcastic?
hmm it was like 57% sarcastic i'll tell you the true parts so you truly know how fucked up my logic is hahaha: it was a REAL vent stream of consciousness style bc I really have only had 2 hrs of sleep in the last day or two and just woke up a couple hours ago; the "vicarious" statement was like 25% to 35% true as I really AM amazed to see so much agreement with INTP's and this is my way of exaggerating my point w/o sounding like a cheese-head, I like to keep up the asshole demeanor lest anyone find out i'm actually a carebear, and I AM retorting to the INTJ's in their VENT thread who say that INTP's can't create a "real" vent bc all our vents come out as logically worded, phrased, and grammatically structured arguments;
but see if i type out my real honest thoughts it's boring and doesn't get any laughs and i'm an entertainer at heart and a child-like goofball by nature soooooooooooooooooooooo...
okay probably last time i will explain my sarcasm... but for YOU i'll do it any day probably bc you are a true student of the craft! LOL
I usually don't have any strong feelings towards politics; I love listening and talking about them, but I don't feel anything big. I also like discussing the downfalls of countries, the downfall of the US, chaos in the streets, etc.I've been thinking about buying some cheap land in the countryside, really isolated, and building a cabin with a hidden basement stocked with provisions and what not, just in case Great Depression Part 2 happens causing (because I don't think modern society can handle this) societal collapse (at least temporarily). Am I being paranoid?
Bah, this will probably be my latest two week obsession, which I'll forget when I start trying to learn how to program a genocidal AI with a god complex, or how to make some kind of human-reptile hybrid, or whatever...
When I heard that the US's credit was downgraded by one of the big Credit Companies™, I felt a pang of concern. Now that I'm going to live on my own, and I can't mooch off my parents, the prospect of total meltdown was actually scary.
It was also 100x more exciting, as the possibility of it grows.
On an unrelated note, Conway's Game Of Life. Holy shit. I love this. I love this.
If they had talked to me about cellular automation in math class, I would have been all over it.
Damn it, this is awesome.
"Howdy" is actually a short abbreviation of "How do you do?"
Strange I haven't noticed it yet.
Strange I haven't noticed it yet.
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