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You are all fucking idiots. Pointing fingers at this country or that one. It's this group, no its that.

It's literally capitalism. If you don't see that money rules the world. Your head is in the sand.

You can't cut the head off a snake.

Go read a fucking book.

Sorry rant done.
 

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Haha that sounds a lot like capitalism to me! Free markets is the general term, I believe.

The fact that the USA has low economic freedom is not proof that it isn't capitalist, it's proof that the diehard capitalist model doesn't work. It just produces countries like America, where money does all the talking.

Massive (and corrupt) government spending is a sign of a broken culture, usually caused by inequality or social division. Some good examples I can think of are America, India, or pre-90s China; all in situations where there is massive inequality and everyone is out to get what they can.
Well ....When U.s. was alot more capitalistic ( less government ) it was alot more richer ,it had hard money ( gold and silver ) , more productive , less inflantion ( you lost 95% of you purchaching power in 100 years ), competitive , their industrial production was the best in the world and for the best price which made small cities and towns extremely wealthy , more equals ( ( the poor had alot more comparing them to the ones in a less free countries ) , Culture , science , art , ect.

Let's not make mistakes ... Argentina started the same as U.s. and they used a similar system to U.s. and made them the richer country in the world in 189x ( Alberti capitalistic ideas ) something .
After the great depression in argetina , it was the private sector who went to help the falling ones . building hospitals , food , ect. after that , Peron nationalise "The social justice" making the state control everything around that idea.

The results are something that many lefties , communist , socialist , progresist , ect . should at least read ones in their life.
How the richer country in the world ( for a few years ) is right now , the worse debstor in all human history and going to an hyperinflation and 75% of porverty.

So the historic evidence is just extremely strong how the fiscal sector , gorvernments and central banks are the real problem in all of this .

Why blame the economical system which made rich the world .... From 95% being in extremely poverty to 5% .
I'm just steal this prhase from wikipedia xD , the cause of the great depression:
Rothbard holds the interventionist policies of the Herbert Hoover administration responsible for magnifying the duration, breadth, and intensity of the Great Depression.Rothbard explains the Austrian theory of the business cycle, which holds that government manipulation of the money supply sets the stage for the familiar "boom-bust" phases of the modern market. He then details the inflationary policies of the Federal Reserve from 1921 to 1929 as evidence that the depression was essentially caused not by speculation, but by government and central bank interference in the market.


You said :Massive (and corrupt) government spending is a sign of a broken culture . Nope... it's our fault ( the people ) for letting apes controlling the state using cheap demagogy.
 

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You are all fucking idiots. Pointing fingers at this country or that one. It's this group, no its that.

It's literally capitalism. If you don't see that money rules the world. Your head is in the sand.

You can't cut the head off a snake.

Go read a fucking book.

Sorry rant done.
Tell me .... WHAT IS CAPITALISM ? 'cause is not money and the private sector can't create money .
i think you need to read alot more books.
 

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Well ....When U.s. was alot more capitalistic ( less government ) it was alot more richer ,it had hard money ( gold and silver ) , more productive , less inflantion ( you lost 95% of you purchaching power in 100 years ), competitive , their industrial production was the best in the world and for the best price which made small cities and towns extremely wealthy , more equals ( ( the poor had alot more comparing them to the ones in a less free countries ) , Culture , science , art , ect.
Sorry but this just isn't correct. During the USA's greatest economic boom, the top tax rate was about 95%. The wealthy and the corporations were taxed hard. And the economy was booming.

Fast forward to now, where taxes are constantly reduced for the wealthy, and some corporations pay no tax at all... and just look at America today. A top heavy, unequal hell hole.

So the historic evidence is just extremely strong how the fiscal sector , gorvernments and central banks are the real problem in all of this .
Well, sort of, but I think you miss the really big part and again it's "free markets", not government meddling.

This goes straight back to your original example of America's greatest economic prosperity. Things started to fail in the 70s, when the economy hit a recession, particularly New York where the financial sector was sitting. The banking sector lent money to the government in return for more freedom. Or in other words, from that day on, banks began to undergo deregulation and taxes began to go down for the wealthy.

Deregulation of the banking sector is what happened.

The first 10 minutes of the below video are informative enough (if you have time though, watch the whole thing, it's a fascinating documentary):

Key quote: "A new committee was set up to manage the city's finances. Out of 9 members, 8 of them were bankers. It was the start of an extraordinary experiment, where the financial institutions took power away from the politicians and started to run society themselves."

And it's only been downhill from there.

Nothing to do with government meddling or high taxation.


Also consider the very early days of America, where the country was run by oil, gold and rail tycoons. They were known as the gilded elites, and were eventually broken up because they held too much power, wealth and control over the rest of the country. So again, the problem is caused by too much money and power in private hands. Nothing to do with government meddling.

You said :Massive (and corrupt) government spending is a sign of a broken culture . Nope... it's our fault ( the people ) for letting apes controlling the state using cheap demagogy.
This doesn't make sense. In democracy you vote for policy, not demagogues, and again this has nothing to do with whether a government is going to fail or not. The fact that Donald Trump (a demagogue) was elected recently is not a sign of failure in the wider concept of governance or taxation.

And seriously just think about this for a second. No matter what, society is going to have a hierarchy of power where somebody holds most of the wealth. Who would you rather had stronger control of that wealth? Faceless corporate entities whose sole motivation is profit? Or a democratically elected government whose sole purpose is to act on behalf of society at large?

P.S: Stop calling me American, I'm British :D
 

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@HAL - I more or less expected your response. You can say what you want and I'm free to say what I want and ignore you. All this means is that you have one less person in your audience, which begs the question: why write at all if fewer and fewer people want to listen. Thanks for helping make this site a crap hole like the rest of the net. I won't bother reading your reply.
 

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Religions always had some occultism background
I doubt you have proof of that. Scholars are hard to find on the net.
It's true that religions and occults are similar, and its quite possible they broke off of some common origin and thread of truth, but to say one lays the background of the other smells of false dichotomy.
 

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@HAL - I more or less expected your response. You can say what you want and I'm free to say what I want and ignore you. All this means is that you have one less person in your audience, which begs the question: why write at all if fewer and fewer people want to listen. Thanks for helping make this site a crap hole like the rest of the net. I won't bother reading your reply.
Sorry, I was in a mildly grouchy mood that day.

I really don't think it's okay to dictate my usage of the phrase "Jesus Christ", though.

We're not kids here, and plenty far worse language is used all over the English speaking world. Plus I have absolutely no interest in adhering to the specific linguistic whims of your chosen religion. Sorry.
 

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My mom said some people aren’t coming to my party tomorrow due to coronavirus concerns. So that means that the people who are coming don’t believe in the coronavirus? That sounds like a trashy party.

I already got paid in amazon gift cards by people who aren’t coming.
 

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Sorry but this just isn't correct. During the USA's greatest economic boom, the top tax rate was about 95%. The wealthy and the corporations were taxed hard. And the economy was booming.

Fast forward to now, where taxes are constantly reduced for the wealthy, and some corporations pay no tax at all... and just look at America today. A top heavy, unequal hell hole.



Well, sort of, but I think you miss the really big part and again it's "free markets", not government meddling.

This goes straight back to your original example of America's greatest economic prosperity. Things started to fail in the 70s, when the economy hit a recession, particularly New York where the financial sector was sitting. The banking sector lent money to the government in return for more freedom. Or in other words, from that day on, banks began to undergo deregulation and taxes began to go down for the wealthy.

Deregulation of the banking sector is what happened.

The first 10 minutes of the below video are informative enough (if you have time though, watch the whole thing, it's a fascinating documentary):

Key quote: "A new committee was set up to manage the city's finances. Out of 9 members, 8 of them were bankers. It was the start of an extraordinary experiment, where the financial institutions took power away from the politicians and started to run society themselves."

And it's only been downhill from there.

Nothing to do with government meddling or high taxation.


Also consider the very early days of America, where the country was run by oil, gold and rail tycoons. They were known as the gilded elites, and were eventually broken up because they held too much power, wealth and control over the rest of the country. So again, the problem is caused by too much money and power in private hands. Nothing to do with government meddling.



This doesn't make sense. In democracy you vote for policy, not demagogues, and again this has nothing to do with whether a government is going to fail or not. The fact that Donald Trump (a demagogue) was elected recently is not a sign of failure in the wider concept of governance or taxation.

And seriously just think about this for a second. No matter what, society is going to have a hierarchy of power where somebody holds most of the wealth. Who would you rather had stronger control of that wealth? Faceless corporate entities whose sole motivation is profit? Or a democratically elected government whose sole purpose is to act on behalf of society at large?

P.S: Stop calling me American, I'm British :D
That is not true , the top federal income tax rate was 95( or something ) percent but they never paid that not even close.
The higher was actually close to 45% ( the top bracket and today is around 36% so it's not that different ) and the top 1% richer in 1950 paid just about 16% of the total income , always is gonna be alot more profitable to tax the middle and poor classes ( of course , they paid alot less per individual ) than the wealthy.
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Well ... banks and corporations use tactics made by gorvenments to not pay taxes ,getting benefits, getting bail-outs , ect.

Let's not make mistakes , Capitalism is not about protecting those institutions ( show me in the real capitalist economic literature ). There is not free market when banks use other people's money and use it to speculate without any repercussion and actually there is alot of posts me saying how much bullshit they are .... but there you have it , gorvernments protects them.

Where most of the money created in this crisis was used for ( our money)? to protect banks xDDD and what can you do now ? If you don't help them you will have a mega collapse and probabily we still are going to one( that is how much fuck up all the world really is ).

Bankster are a germ in our society but we keep blaming capitalism meanwhile the real problems just hide and use whatever system they can have to control the money in our societies ( Remember J.p.morgan controlling silver prices and betting billions in their bail-outs)

Well...democracy is falling bad . Basically , you have a few choices but everyone of them are in the same
political caste ( their benefits ) . The reality is that every country in the western world is alot more poorer and it's not 'cause the riches are evil or something like that ( they give in a year alot more than you in your lifetime and produce works , production ,ect ) but 'cause there is elites which protect themself using the system (states , governments, politicians , banks , corporatitions ,ect ) and if people still keep blaming Capitalism we are just going to the worse world possible.

pd: sorry for thinking that you are american xD ... for now i can just listen the accent to make a difference.
 

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I doubt you have proof of that. Scholars are hard to find on the net.
It's true that religions and occults are similar, and its quite possible they broke off of some common origin and thread of truth, but to say one lays the background of the other smells of false dichotomy.
I didn't mean it in a exoteric way .... actually that is the worse aprooch to understand both but there is not doubt that concepts as the trinity : the father meaning the mind , the mother meaning the emotions and the child meaning the actions and balance of both is something we can find in almost every symbols and religions.

The david star or the ying yang meaning the balance between masculinity or feminity energy in ourself and others as beating the dragon ( our shadow ) , the heroe path , ect. religions are full of those philosophical and psychological concepts which were ancient knowledge ( occultism ) and misinterpreted in the greeks ( the fathers of our western culture ).

So this exoteric way of view religions is very "modern" in our world . Carl jung used alot of occultism concepts to explain our mind ( he said occultism was one of his biggest inspirations for his insighs).

Religions institutions just stole all of those concepts and made them a way to control people ... hiding , blaming and even witch hound for their benefits.
I still believe if you read the bible using the concepts of self-grow isn't that hard to see why it was the most influencial book in our history.
 

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That is not true , the top federal income tax rate was 95( or something ) percent but they never paid that not even close.
Thanks, I didn't know that. Today I learned something!

The reality is that every country in the western world is alot more poorer and it's not 'cause the riches are evil or something like that
I think another huge factor that nobody seems willing to face is technology and automation.

A really great example is manufacturing. Here in the UK we have a pretty large high tech manufacturing industry, and various other industrial process doing all kinds of complex things. In previous decades, these things required hundreds of workers, but now you can have just 10 people to run an entire production line.

So a lot of folk stand back and shout "look how great the economy is, we have so much manufacturing and so much industry!"

But that doesn't mean anything because there are barely any people employed in it.

And so everyone is left with menial jobs, or no job at all, while the small handful of factory owners continue making the same fat profit they've always done.

It's a serious problem in society and I don't think the concept of "free markets" will ever fix it. If people's jobs are being automated, then they can't even raise the wealth to compete in that market. It's a massive issue.
 

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It’s kind of funny when people say I can improve my social skills, when I basically went 15 years of my life without talking to anyone and ended up more charismatic than most people. For some reason, I’m only charismatic when I don’t think about it trying to be charismatic.
 

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Thanks, I didn't know that. Today I learned something!



I think another huge factor that nobody seems willing to face is technology and automation.

A really great example is manufacturing. Here in the UK we have a pretty large high tech manufacturing industry, and various other industrial process doing all kinds of complex things. In previous decades, these things required hundreds of workers, but now you can have just 10 people to run an entire production line.

So a lot of folk stand back and shout "look how great the economy is, we have so much manufacturing and so much industry!"

But that doesn't mean anything because there are barely any people employed in it.

And so everyone is left with menial jobs, or no job at all, while the small handful of factory owners continue making the same fat profit they've always done.

It's a serious problem in society and I don't think the concept of "free markets" will ever fix it. If people's jobs are being automated, then they can't even raise the wealth to compete in that market. It's a massive issue.
Well... that is very complex and we are just going to speculate about the future and probabily failed at that but using the past , technology are gonna move the need of workers to other places ( to maintain machines you need other sectors which specialize in differents aspect of the economy as production , sales , manufacturing ,ect ).

In theory a true capitalist ( it doesn't need the help from gorvernments or banks) is fuck too 'cause nobody is gonna buy his products if everyone is poor and unemployed .

If automatization fuck societies using governments control there is always gonna exist the black-market ( free market with risk) . people always are gonna find a way to survive one way or another ( communist russia , prisons ,cuba , venezuela , argentina , ect ) .

I like this Nietzsche quote:

Somewhere there are still peoples and herds, but not with us, my brethren: here there are states.

A state? What is that? Well! open now your ears unto me, for now will I say unto you my word concerning the death of peoples.

A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."

It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life.

Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them.

Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs.

This sign I give unto you: every people speaketh its language of good and evil: this its neighbour understandeth not. Its language hath it devised for itself in laws and customs.

But the state lieth in all languages of good and evil; and whatever it saith it lieth; and whatever it hath it hath stolen.

False is everything in it; with stolen teeth it biteth, the biting one. False are even its bowels.

Confusion of language of good and evil; this sign I give unto you as the sign of the state. Verily, the will to death, indicateth this sign! Verily, it beckoneth unto the preachers of death!

Many too many are born: for the superfluous ones was the state devised!

See just how it enticeth them to it, the many-too-many! How it swalloweth and cheweth and recheweth them!

"On earth there is nothing greater than I: it is I who am the regulating finger of God"
 

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I want a new (part-time) job so bad...

But fuck I despise the 'industry' (you know, the LinkedIn company-life-is-just-great happy faces). Just refuse to sell-out.
 

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I follow Forbes on Facebook and LinkedIn so my news feed is almost identical on both. Dozens of commenters on Forbes posts will make a disparaging remark about Forbes. Every time I see a post by Forbes someone makes a “Forbes is now run by...” joke. Just to think people follow the page and consistently come back to make that joke.
 
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