[HAL]

I'm about to go trekking with a mate.

Every time, without fail, he's a little bit late. I don't get it. He's messaged now to say he'll be 15 minutes late. Firstly, I don't understand WTF he's doing, he's at home less than 500m away from me, and he lives on his own, yet he's suddenly "doing something" to make it so he's late to meet me. Secondly, I just don't understand how someone can be so disrespectful of other peoples' time. I don't even really want to go trekking today, but I decided I should force myself out for some more fresh air and exercise. If he hadn't messaged me about it, I'd have just stayed at home.

After he messaged this morning, I was in an impulsive "yeah fuck it's let's go trekking!" mindset. Now that he's fucking around with my time, I don't want to go at all. I want to childishly cancel the whole thing and stay idle at home. Instead I'm going to have to spend 3+ hours with someone who thinks it's okay to toy with my free time on a whim. I bet he's doing some trivial bullshit like washing the dishes. He's probably one of those people who must get particular tasks done before allowing himself to move onto the next thing. I can't think of any other reason for him pushing the time back like this.

I hate tardiness so much.

 

[islandlight]

@HAL I agree totally. I could write a long rant, but yeah.... If he wanted to meet at 11:15, why did he say 11:00?

I was once acquainted with an ambassador. He said he wouldn't wait more than 15 minutes for anyone, "Not even the president." Then he said, "Especially the president": If the president was 15 minutes late, it meant he wasn't coming, because he was already on his way to his next appointment.

I feel insulted when people treat me like I have nothing better to do than wait for them or rearrange my schedule around their dishonesty/disrespect. I've already rearranged my schedule in order to meet with them.

 

[HAL]

I found a workaround to put myself back into the mood for trekking. This morning I had been to the supermarket and bought a mango (I don't usually do that). I decided to bring the mango with me on the trek, because it would be quite fun to experience the bizarre concept of eating a tropical fruit on top of a blustery, snowy peak in northern England.

The mango made it all worthwhile.

Actually I'm twisting things a bit. The whole trek was okay in the end, and I'm glad I did it. It was a good dose of exercise on what would have otherwise been another completely wasted Sunday at home.

@islandlight You're exactly right. I find it interesting because INTPs are said to be quite bad at time management, but I think we're only bad at personal time management. When it comes to other people, it's an absolute sin to waste their time. I'm never late for other people.

 

[impulsenine]

Correct. I was never late (unintentionally).
But I still have one thing: I don't like being earlier than I said. If I said 11:00 it's ok for me 10:55-11:02. If I'm too early or too late I'm not satisfied.

Strange.

 

[mia-me]

My cat's a burr. He follows me everywhere and tries to climb up my clothes when he has a chance and sits on my shoulder so he can supervise.

 

[Grandmaster Yoda]

I have an ESFJ dream. It is that one I will visit one of those blue homeless tents and bring them four packages of Ramen Noodles. This will supply them with 96 meals.

Then I would live amongst them for 48 hours to experience their daily strife.

It would be too difficult. But I have a couple of times to do something smaller like actually giving something to a beggar. Normally we are conditioned to ignore them on the presumption that they will abuse our generosity. But this belief seems so strong that I’ve hardly seen someone actually do anything more than once or twice.

We feed seagulls bread. But not people.

 

[impulsenine]

I have an ESFJ dream. It is that one I will visit one of those blue homeless tents and bring them four packages of Ramen Noodles. This will supply them with 96 meals.

Then I would live amongst them for 48 hours to experience their daily strife.

It would be too difficult. But I have a couple of times to do something smaller like actually giving something to a beggar. Normally we are conditioned to ignore them on the presumption that they will abuse our generosity. But this belief seems so strong that I’ve hardly seen someone actually do anything more than once or twice.

We feed seagulls bread. But not people.

Beautiful initiative. I wish you much success in fulfilling it!
It's not an ESFJ dream. It is an initiative of a kind man, not paranoid and without trust issues.

 

[Grandmaster Yoda]

Beautiful initiative. I wish you much success in fulfilling it!
It's not an ESFJ dream. It is an initiative of a kind man, not paranoid and without trust issues.

Paul Erdös was a traveling mathematician labeled an eccentric.

A similar concept came to mind. What if one were to travel from house to house, knocking on the door and asking to become a guest.

How often would the traveling guest be accepted?

I got the idea from that Mongolia video, when the Russian guy asked if he could stay with a seemingly random family.

The weary traveler is a concept one can also find the vider gamez

 

[islandlight]

I rent a room in a guesthouse. There have been problems with people not respecting Covid protocols, and other things. We've tried to work things out, without success.

So we had a house meeting today, with the landlords (both lovely and reasonable people) present. One housemate kept psychoanalyzing the meeting, saying things like "What I see happening here is...," and declaring that he was an experienced crisis negotiator, etc. He prefaced statements with things like, "Now I'm going to be totally frank here."

He called me a liar and said I was full of ____, and he insulted one of the other housemates as well. At the end of the meeting he made a long speech apologizing to both of us for being "a bit harsh."

What a dangerous person!

 

[HAL]

actually giving something to a beggar. Normally we are conditioned to ignore them on the presumption that they will abuse our generosity.

I hate giving to beggars because it doesn't achieve anything other than the perpetuation of a system in which beggars must exist.

There's also the awful assumption that beggars are only doing it out of habit, and/or to feed an addiction of some kind. And there's some sad truth to this. When I was doing my final years of uni and was woefully depressed about that girl who broke my heart, I became very cold to strangers. That resulted in me literally asking beggars why they were asking me for money. I wouldn't deliberately approach them, in fact it was the other way round. The tactic beggars used was to approach people on the street and directly ask for money. Like door-to-door sales, but without a door. In that situation, it was easy to flip the conversation and ask why they needed money. Sadly (and surprisingly) almost all of them ended up admitting that they had a drink or drugs problem.

So, these days I find it hard to give to beggars, and would prefer it if society on the whole used their democratic power to elect politicians who will put the needs of these people higher on the agenda. You don't eradicate problems by letting them continue, you eradicate them via systemic change at the government level. Food programs, homeless shelters, you name it. Leaving the public to throw loose change at the issue is never going to work.

 

[impulsenine]

Paul Erdös was a traveling mathematician labeled an eccentric.

A similar concept came to mind. What if one were to travel from house to house, knocking on the door and asking to become a guest.

How often would the traveling guest be accepted?

I got the idea from that Mongolia video, when the Russian guy asked if he could stay with a seemingly random family.

The weary traveler is a concept one can also find the vider gamez

He would be accepted often enough to survive.
You can find good and open people anywhere. You just don't have to stop trying and eventually the 24th request will be accepted.
But that's the charm when it comes to situations like this: you need success only once/day (or even more rare). And you have hundreds of trials per day.

It depends on the social skills you have, charisma etc. Those influences your success more or less.

 

[Grandmaster Yoda]

I hate giving to beggars because it doesn't achieve anything other than the perpetuation of a system in which beggars must exist.

There's also the awful assumption that beggars are only doing it out of habit, and/or to feed an addiction of some kind. And there's some sad truth to this. When I was doing my final years of uni and was woefully depressed about that girl who broke my heart, I became very cold to strangers. That resulted in me literally asking beggars why they were asking me for money. I wouldn't deliberately approach them, in fact it was the other way round. The tactic beggars used was to approach people on the street and directly ask for money. Like door-to-door sales, but without a door. In that situation, it was easy to flip the conversation and ask why they needed money. Sadly (and surprisingly) almost all of them ended up admitting that they had a drink or drugs problem.

So, these days I find it hard to give to beggars, and would prefer it if society on the whole used their democratic power to elect politicians who will put the needs of these people higher on the agenda. You don't eradicate problems by letting them continue, you eradicate them via systemic change at the government level. Food programs, homeless shelters, you name it. Leaving the public to throw loose change at the issue is never going to work.

The Soviets sought to destroy poverty.

In the 1930s, all research was abruptly stopped, with the issue then categorized as a personal one, stemming out of some very perverse choices - on par with alcoholism and prostitution. The USSR Constitution then appeared, containing the claim that the country was successful in establishing the foundation for a socialist society. Then, at the 8th All-Union Congress, Joseph Stalin declared that the root causes behind poverty and unemployment had been eliminated.

The root causes of poverty were destroyed. Then poverty was renamed, homelessness was made illegal and anyone who remained homeless was either given a lowly accommodation or exiled. Russia was great.

3/4ths of beggars have drug problems. The key is to find that 1/4th who do not and for added precaution, only feed them McDonald’s in the hopes that they don’t resell it.

In the moral high ground game, the biggest winners are the primitivists because they will argue that technology is unsustainable. They have identified a different root cause for all of this. Everybody wants to fix the world.

It’s worth adding that the communist perspective on begging is to do nothing because being charitable is simply a means of saving face for them. A type of ethical egoism, where the capitalist can feel good because they contributed. But the larger problems still exist. But anybody can argue the switcheroo on that, as the communist is just a talker in that case and gets nothing done. There are two choices, have a revolution or don’t. They always choose not to.

 

[Grandmaster Yoda]

He would be accepted often enough to survive.
You can find good and open people anywhere. You just don't have to stop trying and eventually the 24th request will be accepted.
But that's the charm when it comes to situations like this: you need success only once/day (or even more rare). And you have hundreds of trials per day.

It depends on the social skills you have, charisma etc. Those influences your success more or less.

I must give appropriate credit to the imagination for all it has done. Even imagining to be on the Hawaiian islands is nicer than actually being there. I can remember being there thanks to imagination.

Without imagination, there would be so little to reality. Just trees and grass and rocks.

 

[HAL]

There are two choices, have a revolution or don’t. They always choose not to.

I would like to revolve.

 

[Grandmaster Yoda]

I would like to revolve.

I am rotating! Hmmmmmmm

Speaking of exclamation points, it’s so easy to type them but so hard to actually yell.

I read that the mythology of an Ni user is Se. Hence, the extremely common idea of “living in the present moment” and not worrying being the highest state.

But, I don’t think an ESTP needs that advice at least in theory they are in the present according to MBTI terms.

 

[Grandmaster Yoda]

I can’t count on my fingers how many new things I have to do at work.

What’s with the nonsense about supporting software up to x version but not supporting the next minor version up.

We have an older version of the software installed on an operating system that is running a version apparently too new for the new version of the software.

 

[HAL]

lol I've just discovered that the INTJ venting thread is one of the most regularly contributed threads in the INTJ forum.

Meanwhile us INTPs mostly have random thoughts.

 

[HAL]

* Puts selfish hat on *

My twin brother has just received notification to book his covid-19 vaccination. He's going for it next week.

He's 32 years old, not in any kind of protected group, and he doesn't work in any 'frontline' service where vaccination is paramount. I do not know how or why he has been put so far forward in the queue. Most people in our age group expect to be getting vaccinated between May and September.

I AM SO JEALOUS.

This is the kind of thing that would help me achieve my aims to leave the country ASAP. Why does he get it and not me?! We're twins! I want mine!

 

[NipNip]

* Puts selfish hat on *

My twin brother has just received notification to book his covid-19 vaccination. He's going for it next week.

He's 32 years old, not in any kind of protected group, and he doesn't work in any 'frontline' service where vaccination is paramount. I do not know how or why he has been put so far forward in the queue. Most people in our age group expect to be getting vaccinated between May and September.

I AM SO JEALOUS.

This is the kind of thing that would help me achieve my aims to leave the country ASAP. Why does he get it and not me?! We're twins! I want mine!

How dafaq?

One thing I do wonder though, is the degree to which vaccinated people are relieved from the measures and such? Seems to me like it doesn't matter that much in a social/societal context. Or what is the jealousy about?

 

[HAL]

How dafaq?

One thing I do wonder though, is the degree to which vaccinated people are relieved from the measures and such? Seems to me like it doesn't matter that much in a social/societal context. Or what is the jealousy about?

See last line of my post.

While "vaccine passports" are not yet a thing, and perhaps never will be, I do think that vaccinated folk will have a much easier time moving from country to country. I still have my sights on Vietnam, and I think a vaccination would be a nice little bonus to aid with that quest. (It's a very selfish way of seeing things though, because so many people ought to have the vaccine before me, hence me donning my selfish hat for that post).