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Yeah. The title speaks for itself, hopefully.
 

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Reacting with their own emotions, therefor forcing me to think for them.

Express superiority or 'acting smart' on a subject than they have obviously given little thought to.

Work forever to lead others, then lead others incorrectly.

Be indecisive, therefor forcing me to think for them.

Be intolerant to others. I have had to tolerate different people and opinions every day of my life, but expressing that to others is quite rude. I really hate when they say to 'shut up'. This almost demands a verbal response from me, and it is stepping towards psychical altercation.

If our enemies wish to use this as a how-to guild; It wont work, I see you coming :wink:
 

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Make definite judgements on things they know nothing about.

"Ho I heard on tv that a person has been arrested for licking old ladies. Don't ask how but I'm 100% sure he's guilty and should be sentenced to 1.356 months in jail; that is exactly fair. Don't ask why"

INTPs do it too, but a lot less, and that is one really soothing thing on the places they frequent.
 

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When someone is giving me instructions or training, it irriatates me when they focus on the details without the context. Without seeing the big picture, I feel blind. By analogy, when I look at the instruction manual to assemble something, I look at the pictures and pieces first and see how they fit together, then go to the sequential steps if needed. I don't like it when a trainer begins with the steps.
 

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I really dislike when you're talking to someone and they're agreeing with what you're saying... but then you get the feeling that they are just agreeing with you but don't necessarily feel or think the same way.
Oh yes. That is annoying. It also gets sad when after a point, you're able to tell they're doing this... :c

When someone is giving me instructions or training, it irriatates me when they focus on the details without the context. Without seeing the big picture, I feel blind. By analogy, when I look at the instruction manual to assemble something, I look at the pictures and pieces first and see how they fit together, then go to the sequential steps if needed. I don't like it when a trainer begins with the steps.
Agreed. Preferably, I like to learn through watching, not telling. When someone tells you something, it's easy to forget during the thought process. With watching, no one is talking and you can examine waht they're doing and ask questions when needed.

Hm, I haven't said anything yet...Uh..

Oh! Whenever someone tries to argue with you, and they just repeat the same thing over and again or blast insults and threats at you.
 

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When we're arguing about something personal, I take a logical/intellectual standpoint, they fail to correctly comprehend what I'm saying, and claim I'm "over thinking it". Thinking is just how I work through problems! It might be that I sound like I'm making things too complicated, but in truth I'm simply trying to point out a very simple, fundamental concept, and how it relates to the situation/how we can keep it in mind and avoid future conflict.

This sort of thing happens often with my ISFP dad and I. :frustrating:
 

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Reacting with their own emotions, therefor forcing me to think for them.

Express superiority or 'acting smart' on a subject than they have obviously given little thought to.

Work forever to lead others, then lead others incorrectly.

Be indecisive, therefor forcing me to think for them.

Be intolerant to others. I have to tolerate different people and opinions every day of my life, but expressing that to others is quite rude. I really hate when they say to 'shut up'. This almost demands a verbal response from me, and it is stepping towards psychical altercation.

If our enemies wish to use this as a how-to guild; It wont work, I see you coming :wink:
OMFG YES I haaaate it when people do that :angry:
 

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People coming to conclusions without putting in the hard work necessary to get it right. Then smiling and gloating. Then me punching them in the face as hard as possible. Okay last part was my imagination.

The idiots leading when they shouldn't bothers me tremendously but maybe even more so is the unbelievable mindlessness of those who follow. It's so lazy and irresponsible. Depresses me.

People who have a totally uncultivated mind though they are middle aged adults. It's sad seeing 30 and 40 year old people go through life so lost and dependent. They can hide it for a time but the outrageous intellectual incompetence shows up pretty quick anytime the standard routine is interrupted. Pathetic. I actually enjoy watching these people struggle and suffer. They deserve it.

Excessive sensuality (see above).

When I'm sitting at a table talking with people in a group and I try to take the conversation somewhere interesting and no one comes because they don't want to seriously think anything through. People talk about "oh I'm passionate about this" or "oh I believe this is true" or "you know things should really be this way" and then I actually begin to go somewhere with it thinking they actually meant what they were saying. Turns out they didn't really. People like to talk about problems and their solutions but if it requires real thinking then no thank you.

I'm pretty intolerant I'd say; dogmatic...I also do blast people when they piss me off...so sorry can't go with you on those two.

I hate J's obsessive task accomplishing. Calm down. You're not making anything better.

I hate F's when they can't understand I'm not an intimate person and get all whiney and offended when I don't want to be their "friend." I do enjoy watching how desperate they get trying to befriend me anyway against all odds. It's like they will just not give up. Is it that important to you haha? They get all insecure and go kinda crazy after enough time. I'm sorry I just don't want to be close. Accept it.

I actually don't mind extroverts as long as they aren't just aimlessly expending energy. Especially extroverted Artisans. They are terrible. Though extroverted Idealists can be bad too. I find the extroverted Guardians and Rationals to be much more bearable.

Sensors are alright as long as they have an imagination. I can respect and admire people who are more grounded in reality than I am...but if they are incapable of anything but that I get pretty tired of them because it's like, man, what do you even do?

Which reminds me: Sensors who excuse intellectual labor from their life because they are "do-ers" and not "think-ers". Well what exactly are you going to "do" seeing you cannot think?

Also Feelers who excuse intellectual labor because they like "people" and they want to just focus on "caring". What happens when that person has a problem? How are you going to care about them then seeing you've sworn off serious thought because of what a terrible distraction it was. The truth is F's like people so long as it makes them feel good interacting with them. If ever that part of the equation is taken out you see that other people's best interest wasn't quite their priority after all. It's like those people you see in third world countries who are working in sweatshops or orphans or prostitutes or whatever and you watch the feelers just go berserk with this need to go "love" them yet not realize the reason they even are there is because of those cheap, imported NIKE running shoes they just got, love, and plan on buying two more pairs. We need people who care about other people. Me? My care levels are pretty low. I'm all for someone who is more wired for that. But actually care about them and not your own hedonistic, self-serving gratification.

When any other type takes any opportunity they can to prove me wrong since I am usually the "intellectual" of the group and to trump me is to prove that apparently they are just as smart as I am.

I could go on but I'd rather sleep.
 

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Okay, I just had another one. When people completely misinterpret what you say and claim you're prejudice against something and hate any popular form of it.

Just...god.
 

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People coming to conclusions without putting in the hard work necessary to get it right. Then smiling and gloating. Then me punching them in the face as hard as possible. Okay last part was my imagination.
I find it hilarious when you continue that part with below statements:

I hate J's obsessive task accomplishing.

I hate F's when they can't understand I'm not an intimate person and get all whiney and offended when I don't want to be their "friend."

I actually don't mind extroverts as long as they aren't just aimlessly expending energy. Especially extroverted Artisans. They are terrible. Though extroverted Idealists can be bad too.

Sensors are alright as long as they have an imagination.

When any other type takes any opportunity they can to prove me wrong since I am usually the "intellectual" of the group and to trump me is to prove that apparently they are just as smart as I am.
Oh yeah I don't like INFJ's period. Sorry.
I'd say go punch yourself in the face as hard as possible. You deserve it.
 

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I have a problem when I am in a tough discussion with someone and they go all emotional or even passive-aggressive on me while all I am doing is presenting my case with the strictest logic.
I am predominantly F but I can very easily mobilise my T in situations like that. Sometimes I go so far that the discussion from my end looks more like a game of chess with moves thought out in advance.
But since I know that the response will be an irrational emotional one, I often quit the discussion long before that point because i already know exactly all the moves that have yet to be played out in advance.
 

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When people assume I'm stupid because I'm not putting myself about socially and trying to prove myslef in the group like some big idiot.

When people use abbreviations and work terms, or terms to do with a specific subject will assume because you don't know what they mean they are above you and clever, and you are not worthy of the conversation. Or you simply don't exist.

When people try to gain your attention by being overly boistrous.

When people get stressed or panic at work. <--- Really irritating.

When people don't try new food just because it looks a certain way. Just fucking eat it before you judge.

When people don't submerge themselves completely when swimming. Enjoy the water fully, or don't bother getting in.

When women flirt to gain social importance.

Telling me to shut up.

That is all for now.
 

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Wanting and being able to understand someone's point of view and in return have that person show no interest in mine or fake an understanding of it. This usually happens with SFJ's (but is visible to an extent in every other type) and then I wonder what the fuck I'm even doing talking with those people because nothing I explain is being processed AT ALL in their minds.
 

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Ok everyone out of my head, I think you've covered most of my irritations too. But my biggies:

Blind judgements - on anything, from food to current affairs, backing it up with someone else's opinionusually "My mate says this gives you the runs so I've never eaten it" or "Gordon Brown is rubbish cos the Sun says so."

Refusing to look outside the box

Refusing to learn anything - don't you think your life will be easier if you at least try to understand, rather than staying in your safe little world?

Putting feelings ahead of logical conclusion. Very anti-INTP, and something we should really learn to understand....hmmph

Saying "I know what you're saying", saying that my point of view is totally valid and they agree...but still sticking to their (usually) small minded opinion. WHY? AARGGH??!!!!
 

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When "over-achivers" only care about doing well to beat others at the game. [like students who get 99 averages but don't remember what we learned 3 months ago]

When people bore me with facts about how cute this one little girl is or this bug they found in their cereal. I don't really care to be honest.

When people silenty say that their belief is right by saying it is, instead of I belive it is.
 

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I find it hilarious when you continue that part with below statements:





I'd say go punch yourself in the face as hard as possible. You deserve it.
I find it hilarious that you are trying to be intelligent and cutting even though you are a Guardian. Maybe you should stop?
 
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