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I created a thread a month ago, seeking some answers about what type I would be, but it seems like I only presented thoughts that supported what I already knew; that I use introverted thinking. A lot. I'm also sure that I'm an introvert, so this leaves four possible types. INTP, ISTP, INFJ and ISFJ. I'll keep away from the 20 questions this time. I might just focus too much on giving the right answers instead of giving an idea of how I think and act, which is the actual purpose.

Well, those four types are very different, I believe. INTP seems to be described as almost robotic (or computer-like), an ISTP would be a trouble-shooter and trouble-maker, an INFJ is a idealistic and quiet leadertype and an ISFJ would be a mother-like-type, focusing on day-to-day harmony. At the same time, I've often seen famous historical persons being typed as INTP by some sources, and then INFJ by some other sources. The thinking of those types doesn't seem that similar, which puzzles me a bit. As if any INTP that acts nicely is a INFJ, or any INFJ that acts unfriendly is a INTP. Hm. This is my Ti rambling again, isn't it? Or did some Ne spring up?

Anyway, I guess my interactions with the world might help establish what extraverted function I use. Well.

When discussing with people, at least on text by e-mail, people often interpret my arguments as being very aggressive, even though I'm not angry at all. I've also been told that, when discussing IRL I either seem gentle as a lamb or angry as a bear. 50/50. The guy who said it might have been joking, but I'm never really sure with him.

Once, a girl who identified herself as an INFP fled from a discussion as I continued to demand a good reason for her opinion instead of just listening to the fearful voice in her head. I show too little patience for those kind of things, and that doesn't really make much sense. I could be more understanding.

It was a discussion about nuclear power. Now, had she given me a reason like, that she was too risk-averse to see it as a solution or that there were some practical reasons against it, I wouldn't have minded it be being used as a reason. It might be a good reason, I'm not sure. Just switching off your mind as soon as that word is mentioned didn't seem reasonable, though. It might be with other things, in other situations, where some principle is undermined.

I might do that from time to time, turn off my mind, if I know people can't be reasoned with, but I might just as likely instead say what principles are being undermined. I guess she might have thought the same thing. She seems to have some self-confidence issues, just as I have from time to time. Excusing my behaviour didn't really make a difference to her, it seemed. My thick skin and her thin skin, well, makes it difficult to have any discussion with place for both of us, if either of us have a strong opinion, I think. Perhaps it's just me.

I don't think that the rules of our society should be determined by the morals of individuals, but by how we envision our society as a whole and by what would be the reasonable ways to reach these goals. It might be what makes me react so harshly from time to time, but I'm not sure.

... anyway. I was at a party Saturday, with a group of about 15 guys who I meet up with about once every two-three months, and their partners. At one point, one of them went to me and said that they liked that I never had said a bad word about any of them. I don't think this is completely correct, but I don't think it's really untrue either. I don't really care to judge people, but my friends often seek my council or asks me to listen. As a child and as a teenager I was very good at keeping secrets. I think my friends consider me very trustworthy.

That being said, all in all, I think I'm an INTP. I'm just searching for other functions than Ti and I'm not very good at spotting functions or understanding them. I have read a lot about them, but especially the intuitive functions seem very intangible. Extraverted intuition don't even seem that extraverted. Could any of you spot any other function than Ti (and inferior Fe, that's just the other side of the same coin, isn't it)?
 
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well you can't be ISFJ lol
i don't know a lot about ISTP but i can't see Se here at all
What my guess would be is that you are probably Ti
Where i can spot auxiliary Ne is how you debate your thought about rules of a society and how you generate your attitudes
you are Ti cuz unreasonable makes you mad...for me i tend to be more agreeable then you in thous lovely moments and avoid being harsh on people and look in a way of "nothing good ill bring out of them in this way" - so yeah you could be more understandable...not all people follow your logic (i don't say your logic is any better or worse then anybody's else). Work a bit on understanding subjective data, you will get more productive with people, and keep your reason cuz many people would kill sometimes for a word of reasoning but learning how to represent that reason is also important in approaching people. (ok now im getting all smart here lol but im just saying my opinion).
Here is my thought...you are an introvert you are right...you use outside data to form you inner attitude etc. - that is very good indicator you are an introvert.
INTP would be correct :)
 

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well you can't be ISFJ lol
i don't know a lot about ISTP but i can't see Se here at all
What my guess would be is that you are probably Ti
Where i can spot auxiliary Ne is how you debate your thought about rules of a society and how you generate your attitudes
you are Ti cuz unreasonable makes you mad...for me i tend to be more agreeable then you in thous lovely moments and avoid being harsh on people and look in a way of "nothing good ill bring out of them in this way" - so yeah you could be more understandable...not all people follow your logic (i don't say your logic is any better or worse then anybody's else). Work a bit on understanding subjective data, you will get more productive with people, and keep your reason cuz many people would kill sometimes for a word of reasoning but learning how to represent that reason is also important in approaching people. (ok now im getting all smart here lol but im just saying my opinion).
Here is my thought...you are an introvert you are right...you use outside data to fo you inner attitude etc. - that is very good indicator you are an introvert.
INTP would be correct :)
Might you be a bit more specific about how Ne presents itself is in my case?

I agree that I should get better at understandind subjective data; the case I mentioned was an especially horrible example of me not listening to the other person. It does happen from time to time, still it's not really that typical for me. In the... ehm, environment we had the discussion in, we usually have these discussions without putting our whole person into them. I don't really sense myself getting angry in most cases, I'm usually very cool-headed, and didn't in this case; she probably just felt that I demanded more of her than she was able or willing to give.
 
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Might you be a bit more specific about how Ne presents itself is in my case?

I agree that I should get better at understandind subjective data; the case I mentioned was an especially horrible example of me not listening to the other person. It does happen from time to time, still it's not really that typical for me. In the... ehm, environment we had the discussion in, we usually have these discussions without putting our whole person into them. I don't really sense myself getting angry in most cases, I'm usually very cool-headed, and didn't in this case; she probably just felt that I demanded more of her than she was able or willing to give.


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I don't think that the rules of our society should be determined by the morals of individuals, but by how we envision our society as a whole and by what would be the reasonable ways to reach these goals. It might be what makes me react so harshly from time to time, but I'm not sure.
exploring various options to reach a conclusion :) considering around to make a judgment. Also your judgment is nto so firm cuz it's gathering information functions so it's obvious you are making an observation mor ethen a statement. It sounds like a statement cuz your dominant Ti is judging function :)
 
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exploring various options to reach a conclusion :) considering around to make a judgment. Also your judgment is nto so firm cuz it's gathering information functions so it's obvious you are making an observation mor ethen a statement. It sounds like a statement cuz your dominant Ti is judging function :)
So Ne shows itself by me presenting my thoughts with openness towards different possibilites, or by presenting different possibilities? That seems about right. Se would be concerned about interaction with the physical world in a practical sense, I guess? Si about the present situation compared to past situations? Ni then views it all as a whole instead of single events or experiences and uses this understanding of the whole to fit it all into and find connections? Kind of like, I don't know, a brain, where single cells lies together with similar cells, but are still connected with other cells, and groups of cells, with different functions and memories, which somehow need to interact to find some real meaningful understanding. The most interesting thoughts might come when some that don't often interact 'hit' each other. Is this completely wrong?

Now, when I do state things I don't often doubt what I'm saying. I don't doubt my analysis and conclusions, as they are usually founded on long and deep thought, and knowledge. When I do change my attitude, it mostly happens when I have overlooked a possible point of view, and someone presents it to me. My doubts are mostly about intra- and interpersonal thoughts and feelings, when I do have doubts. Somehow, I've grown more certain about my conclusions and viewpoints as I have gotten older. Some years ago I had a very hard time ever taking a decision and choosing a viewpoint.
 
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