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To ENTPs: Stop Whining about the "Demons of Our Nature" You "Can't Change."

ENTPs have an amazing personality--one of my favorites and the only one I'd ever choose for myself. However, there's one thing many of us ENTPs keep saying that's not even supposed to happen to our personality: the mindset that "we can't change." I mean, we're supposed to be the ones who look at the rules and say, "why is it that way?" We look at the pyramids of bodies of those who have failed before us and state, "but I can do it." We can take situations so tangled that others can't see out of and unravel a straight line. We dream what others don't dare to and push ourselves where others won't. So then why on earth would we think just because some personality typology says we're an ENTP that we're a slave to that assessment and to so many of the common demons that come along with the blessing?

So we have some common weaknesses -- that's all they are. They aren't irreparable damages or scars or a cross we have to bear. They're merely common ways we tend to think, common ways we're immature, and common things we have to overcome. You don't like being fickle? Make decisions. You want to do something great? Fantastic. Set a goal and get there. The excuses we make for not going somewhere and not accomplishing the things we start out on are just that--elegantly constructed excuses for failure. That's it. That's all. And I'm terribly guilty of doing this myself.

So let's just man (or woman) up, take responsibility for ourselves, and actually do something. It's not easy, but nothing worth getting ever is. If we want fulfilling lives and success in our endeavors, just do what needs to be done. There's nothing really standing between us and what we want besides ourselves. So just make the decision and go for it.
 

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I think growing up as the odd ones out and finding MBTI and others like us makes us cling to the thought of, "This is who I am! This is who I am and you can't change me." I think most people just take time to get over that. Of course, once we do we're unstoppable. :proud:
 

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ENTPs have an amazing personality--one of my favorites and the only one I'd ever choose for myself. However, there's one thing many of us ENTPs keep saying that's not even supposed to happen to our personality: the mindset that "we can't change." I mean, we're supposed to be the ones who look at the rules and say, "why is it that way?" We look at the pyramids of bodies of those who have failed before us and state, "but I can do it." We can take situations so tangled that others can't see out of and unravel a straight line. We dream what others don't dare to and push ourselves where others won't. So then why on earth would we think just because some personality typology says we're an ENTP that we're a slave to that assessment and to so many of the common demons that come along with the blessing?
So we have some common weaknesses -- that's all they are. They aren't irreparable damages or scars or a cross we have to bear. They're merely common ways we tend to think, common ways we're immature, and common things we have to overcome. You don't like being fickle? Make decisions. You want to do something great? Fantastic. Set a goal and get there. The excuses we make for not going somewhere and not accomplishing the things we start out on are just that--elegantly constructed excuses for failure. That's it. That's all. And I'm terribly guilty of doing this myself.
So let's just man (or woman) up, take responsibility for ourselves, and actually do something. It's not easy, but nothing worth getting ever is. If we want fulfilling lives and success in our endeavors, just do what needs to be done. There's nothing really standing between us and what we want besides ourselves. So just make the decision and go for it.
Good post. But may I suggest paragraphs? Makes it easier on the eyes to read.
 

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This is kinda true for all types and not just ENTPs. People need to grow up and quite playing the victim.

I think one of the more unique problems that we face as XNTPs is that XSFJs are the most common type which makes them a social norm so there's a push for people to act more like them. The problem comes in when you realize that, while it's psychologically healthy for everyone to work towards overcoming their flaws and weaknesses, it's psychologically unhealthy for people to try to be someone they're not and acting more like an XSFJ is the epitome of who we are not.

Since our strengths are their weaknesses it's not unheard of for society to see our strengths as a weakness. We have to work towards overcoming our weaknesses and not society's weaknesses.
 

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ughhhhh....more grammar guru's.... I found it easier and much more fun to read as it was like a puzzle ...

not so mundane and repeated ... I would much rather figure it out.


can there ever be a forum where someone does not point , o sorry "suggest", grammar.

That's it ! I am starting a no negative grammar comments forum !

there ya go ....I got short form like 5 half paragraphs ..... dot dot dot...for separation.... bad commas horrible capitalization implementation...spelling would be much more atrocious if I didn't hate red squiggly lines......hope ya understand me !
 

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Holy Thread Resurrection! Would replying to these guys even matter???LOL!
That's what I'm testing out. It's the equivalent of a PerC summoning.
 

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That's what I'm testing out. It's the equivalent of a PerC summoning.
*Ping*


Not sure what I can do to help you out with the summoning.

I originally posted in this forum with a knee jerk reaction to someone calling out another user on grammar.

Validity of which is insignificant at best.

But I do like macaw's not so much the martini's so I thought I would help out !
 

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It's amazing how the users for 3-4 years ago are just relics of the past. @Ashovare @cue5c @FuzzyLittleManPeach @Magnificent Bastard @affezwilling @FueledByEvil are you people even here? You're our ancestors and I'm trying to reach you for answers!!! Perhaps they took Ashovare's advice, and changed their type?
Simple way of finding out is visiting each user and looking at most resent posts. :tongue:

I don't know about the others, but Cue is still active. :happy:
 

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Simple way of finding out is visiting each user and looking at most resent posts. :tongue:

I don't know about the others, but Cue is still active. :happy:
That might not help as I go months without posting, but I do still check my notifications almost daily. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to be really active these days.
 

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That might not help as I go months without posting, but I do still check my notifications almost daily. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to be really active these days.
@FueledByEvil was the one who was messing around the Cave of the Ancients. As you can see, it was I who summoned you. Tell us your wisdom, oh Great One?
 
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