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Hey PerC amigos,

I just want to open this thread to discussion for those interested in digging deeper into their experiences, in case their experiences could possibly match with me (I self-identify as Tritype 146, subtype SX-SO).

If you're interested in the resources I used to start thinking more about this, this is the main one - https://www.scribd.com/doc/239698153/Tritype-Booklet-PDF, which I used yesterday to try and nut out what Tritype and subtype I could possibly be.

I guess there're varying levels and degrees of familiarity with Enneagram theory you could be approaching this thread from, and I'm happy for anyone to bring their experiences.

Really, I think I'm just looking to bond with someone, or some others, about my new-found discovery! Also, looking for a community with specialised knowledge of these kinds of experiences, to have a discussion and talk it out somewhat.

Oh well, bring up anything you want :p

The archetype for Tritype 146 is the "philosopher" :D
 

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Okay I'll throw my hat in the ring so I'm not just unfairly asking anyone to speak on demand :p

Tritype 146, I believe, fits with me cos I've got the zeal of 1s, desire to be recognised as unique and different of 4s, and the desire for being the companion or complement to others, in what they're missing, of 6s. Mind you, these are just my understanding of the characters/points on the Enneagram.

The subtypes thing is a bit peculiar, perhaps, cos people think SX, oh yeah they're aggressive, sexual, lusty, basically like the earthen sensuality. But no that's not it, not necessarily.

The way I reason for the subtypes, is this - I'm most happy when I've bonded with at least one other person. This is where I get my zen energy from. I seriously devolve into an unsafe place when I'm not getting that kind of one-to-one engagement/interaction.

Then the second in my subtype stacking I've self-identified as SO, cos the next place I draw energy from is the social environment around me. In a group setting, I will be insecure, if I've not yet bonded with at least one other person. But in terms of family environment, I'm also sensitive to the emotional environment and making sure we're operating cohesively and whatnot.

SP I'd say comes last, cos even though I've got my issues with "self-preservation", it's not so much about providing and making sure I'm safe in a physical, material, long-term sense. And that's what I've gathered the SP subtype is more about.

I think maybe the appearance of the subtypes, from how they're identified, is sometimes off-putting, and makes us think we may be other than what we are? And yet, when I've discovered my own self-identified Tritype, and subtype, it's pretty enlightening for me, cos it's like stumbling across a light place in the dark woods of my experience :D. Haha. Then it lights up the whole forest, and I think I can see my way a little more.

So, what is your Tritype, regardless of whether you are like me, and what is your experience of finding more about yourself with these systems? Has it helped you navigate your way better? Which system do you find is most enlightening, if any? Or anything else you would like to reflect on? :p

Don't worry, if the thread stays blank, I'll probably just keep talking with myself ;)
 

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I'm also 461 tritype SX/SO. I have the 1'ish ability to be opininiated and to be zealous. I have the desire to be recognized as unique and gifted and i'm also a little bit anxious and fearful.

It is a contradictive tritype, and yes i'm sometimes contradictory. What i do not share with 1's is structure and a rigid life. I'm more laid-back and very lazy, but in environments that are less treating to me i am highly opinionated and dominant. I will always stand up for the rights of others. 461 is maybe the 4 that is most capable of being a lawyer, a politician, a teacher. Coming up for the rights for other people - who are mistreated. I will always choose the underdog, choose difficult ways and fight for the underdog, for the guy. I could be the devil's advocate. When choosing to support a sport team or social situations, i will choose the underdog. Most times even unconsciesly. I'm someone who wished the world was different, and in my views: the world should care for humans, animals & nature. I'm someone who is frustrated if someone doesn't share my values (esp. if i don't understand how someone else with an entirely different view, i become frustrated because it seems obvious for me that we need a little bit more tolerant to each other). In my perfect world view: humans shouldn't eat meat anymore. For others, this could be seen as crazy. For me: i see it as a duty and it frustrates me that i'm almost the only one that fight for it (= i always have the feeling that i'm the first one to say something/ to do something). Because of those frustrations, being a politician would be draining. I would do it good, i'm talented but emotionally i think it is a hard job. I also don't like to read newspapers, social media or watch the news on TV because you're confrontated with how the world is, and you don't want to confrontated with it anymore because you feel guelty that you can't do anything about it (or that other people do nothing about it). It is hard to see that others are for example death because someone drived behind the wheel while he drunk to much beer. Again -> frustration. Believe me: it is a tritype with one keyword: frustration. Sometimes you wished you could rest a little bit, and actually you rest because some situations are so draining that you need to recharge sometimes. Also in social situations, you like it to be with others because it gives you energy, but when you're home and alone, you can be finally again yourself and can recharge again. Sometimes i need to retract. Other professions that could be something for me are actor, director, writer (non-fiction & fiction) & rare professions. Some place where you can be yourself.

I like attention. Not in a way that i dress in a strange way, or but sometimes i say things to others in a way that they give attention. I like to say things that others would find strange, and because of this i'm often called a weird guy. My "choosing the underdog" is sometimes also drive because of the fact i want attention. I'm not entirely aware of this, and if i choose the underdog, i choose it with my heart. But it's just a fact that i like to be in the center of the attention. Also if this is negatively. Because i want attention, i also could use easily emotional manipulation (without noticing it). I remember that i said in my youth many times that i would commit suicide if others wouldn't do that or this. Or because of attention, however i was also dedicated to commit suicide and i had really some trouble. This was sometimes really sick, because i was so problem-seeking (because i want attention or want to flee for something). I remember that i wanted on a day more homework because i was angry, i wanted attention and choosing the underdog and i didn't have more work to do because i wouldn't probably make it.

I think i like it to give speeches. I liked it to stand in front of the class and give a presentation about subjects i like to talk about it.. I can talk easily about the things i love to talk about, about myself, about world problems, about my views, about some scientific interests, about many subjects. I don't like to talk about minor things things that aren't that important, or what would be wasting of my time. I am really self-aware about everything that is going on in our environment. I can easily read others thoughts and emotions, and i'm desperately trying to understand myself completely (what isn't impossible, however i know myself very well). I'm so self-aware of myself that i could easily write thousands of books of myself and another hundred thousand books about other things.

I'm also pessimistic (& idealistic), and my mood can switch easily. Sometimes it feels like my life is a wreck and i want to get rid of my body or notice the smallest tremors, sounds & visual changes. The other time i'm really happy and i can survive everything and beat everything that i would encounter. Nothing would destroy me, i'm invincible. I'm so happy and sometimes without a reason (maybe only some music). I have emotions, and I always give subtile switches about facts (exaggerating things) but in a way that others wouldn't notice it (= subjective), but i don't show my emotions. I'm sometimes really inhibited (what i hate) because of emotions of shame, envy, fear and frustration. I learned to search for positive experiences, get rid of the negative and searching for luck in the negative things.

Other people said to me that i was knowledgeable, and i'm actually "smart", however i believe everyone could be smart if she/he did was committed to it (what in most cases is not the case). I can argumentate about everything, and i can give about every thing, every word, every person an advantage and a disadvantage, what could be good and what couldn't be good. I can give a reason why the most bad person in the world isn't that bad, and why the most good person isn't that good. I can argumentate about the word argumentating. I'm the kind of person that would be the cause why a debate couldn't end fast. But like for example in the movie: 12 Angry Men, that isn't always a bad thing. I search for the good in every person, and however i judge people easily, and i really criticize others and myself all the time, i accept easily some faults made by people (because i understand the emotions what drive them to that). I'm the first to know and understand that people could make mistakes. I also don't understand why others aren't doing that and judging others without knowing the situation, or by generalizing. I'm criticized, but i wouldn't criticize the underdog but always people with high functions or people/things with success. I teach to people and i criticize people/things that i hate or where i'm envious at. I have the capability to criticize everything and to correct everything. And however i can confrontate people easily, i have more difficulties with a face-to-face confrontation with someone i don't know well, or is a completely stranger.

I'm sometimes proud of myself, at other times i criticize myself in a what that isn't healthy anymore. I'm really contradictory. And unpredictable. I can react completely different depending on the mood where i am. When it isn't the important, i'm going to retract, and i don't show easily my emotions.

Maybe this is a little bit negatively written (well -> i'm pessimistic), but i'm convinced i'm talented, and nevertheless i'm proud of my personality. I'm a genius, i'm intuitive, i'm creative. I sometimes feel that i like i'm gay or something (but i have a sexual preference for women) or that i have more feelings then the average men. That i like things that are actually more feminin. I thought i'm gender-transcendent. I can get along better with females then with males (who are sometimes dominant, insensitive and too draining). I liked it when others said i'm gay even if i'm not gay because they acknowledged via this way that i'm special and different from them. I would be bored as hell if i was a normal human. And actually i don't like being human. If i get the choice to betray human kind by joining an alien faction, i wouldn't think twice about it.. I like human individuals, but i actually hate human kind.

I also care about people, and i always say that people can count on me (however they don't need me actually because they never said that they need help). I think this is sad for them. I want to help them, i would do everything what i could to help them but everyone says that they don't need help, and i don't like being obtrusive because i already am probably. I am also kind, i am romantic, lazy sometimes.

My favourite movie is 2001: a Space Odyssey. I like quality movies. I don't like action, comedy or most classics. A great cult movie is The Guest. I also like Alien, A Man Escaped, In the mood for love, Fucking Amal, Fight Club or Last Days. I love the color pink, followed by yellow & black. I read mostly non-fiction (the best stories are the ones in my head). I like a game like cities skylines where i can be creative or europa universalis where i could be a real strategist. I'm anticipating No Man's Sky.

Feel free to ask some more things. Sorry for long post, but better something long then somethings short, and sorry if this was too negatively focused. I tried to make it so short and positive as possible, but i doubt if i succeeded in it.
 
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