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A starry sky somewhere in the wilderness?
You can see a galaxy, the milky way. It expands like a huge arch over the sky and glows in different colors, yellow, orange, blue-ish, white, pink, violet. Stunningly beautiful. The sky seems to be sputtered with stars all over.
Pictures like this one make me realize how small I am, how insignificant my problems are in relation to the grand scheme of things. Heck, all inhabitants of earth don’t matter. We are just living on this teeny tiny dot in one out of many universes. This also makes me think about extraterrestrial life. Which, I am absolutely sure, is a thing.
I also like the contrast between the sky and the ground/the trees.


Pick a word, any word - brainstorm - whether it's just words that spring to mind, or ideas, or memories, whatever - just brainstorm for a while. No restrictions. Below is a link for a random word, if it helps.
https://randomwordgenerator.com


fox
A fox is a dog/wolf-like animal primarily living in the forest. I associate it with red fur, tales, fables. There is this German childrens’ song: “Fuchs du hast die Gans gestohlen.” In preschool I had to play this on a glockenspiel, but I never practiced and failed to succeed. In fables the fox is called “Reineke” and he’s the epitome of a clever animal. If I am not mistaken, there is even an adjective called “foxy”. Which brings me to the German phrase: “Ich bin fix und foxi”. Means that you’re totally done. Which is actually true for me. But I’ve still 1.5 hours of training tonight. Meh.




Section 2.


Describe your verbal communication skills, your written communication skills, and your body language.
Feel free to go in-depth. If possible, detail your natural communication and body language preferences in various circumstances - with friends, with strangers, at work, in one-on-one situations, in group situations, personal, impersonal, that kind of thing. If anything irritates you about how others communicate, talk about that too.
The more information, the better.

The way I speak depends on my audience/my communication partner (obviously). At uni I often talk in a very elaborate and scientifically correct way. Some of my uni friends like to use sort of stilted, specific vocabulary and I happily engage in that. I use figurative language to illustrate what I want to tell and I like to come up with proverbs and sometimes puns. In general, I take care of getting to the point in a reasonable time, especially since aimless rambling of others freaks me out. I hate it, when people are outrageously stretching there stories and won't ever come to an end. Wrong grammar irritates me as well. I have to hold back on correcting my counterpart a lot. Sometimes I come off as a bit of a smartass.
When I do creative writing I like to use figurative and interesting language, something you would enjyo to read. On formal emails/letters I make sure to preserve the appropriate expression, correct grammar, punctuation and so on. I use arguments for support come off more confident than in reality
I am not very aware of my body language, but my dad says I talk with my hands a lot. He always mimics my gestures, which is kind of funny. In conversations I incorporate non-verbal communication skills by nodding in approval, smiling, shaking my head, twisting my mouth, frowning…
I’d say I’m a good listener, but if a conversation bores me, I stop paying attention and let my thoughts wander around or observe my surroundings. Sometimes my counterpart says something that reminds me of something else I want to talk about and if I am very eager to get this off my chest, I might just change the topic (if appropriate :D) to this completely new direction. Which might come off as weird.
In group situations I am rather a listener then a speaker. I often wait for the right moment to speak up and when this never arises I keep quiet. And afterwards I want to punch myself for being such a coward. I feel like what I say in a group has to have a lot of substance and I think a lot more before I speak than in one-on-one encounters where I talk more freely.




How do you prefer to make decisions, solve problems and/or puzzles?
Run us through your entire process - use specific examples, if possible - some ideas for your answer -
what questions do you ask yourself, if any? What goes through your mind? What do you take into account? What could alter your decisions? Are you comfortable with making a decision and settling on it? Do you like being able to change your decisions, after you've made them?

I prefer to have some time to think and reflect. I hate to make decisions pressed for time. It’s important for me to think about the consequences. If, what might happen, is resonating with my values, my wellbeing. If it might affect other people. I tend to juggle possibilities until I HAVE TO make a decision and usually I haven’t really figured out what would be best, so I just go by a gut feeling. Afterwards I am usually relieved since the distress that uncertainty evokes in me, has been lifted off my shoulders.
Sometimes I contemplate my decisions and doubt that I was right. If possible, I might even change them.
Problem solving is a bit different. I gather all available and useful information and try to find out if it provides any help to solve the question. It’s more of a structured, methodical approach that I have learned to use since I’ve been taught science.
To give a specific example: One of my colleagues asks, if someone can take over her shift tomorrow morning. No-one replies. She asks again. Tomorrow is moving day for her. She forgot about her shift tomorrow and definitely can’t go to work. Should I take it over? Hmm, still no-one has replied yet. It’s already late. I wouldn’t even get 6 hours of sleep. And I am not motivated. But she needs someone to jump in. She’s nice. I like her. She is going to work for me in December, so why not. I don’t have anything enjoyable planned anyway. I can nap after work. I reply “I can do it ”. She replies “Thank you so much!!” I am pissed, I don’t want to get up at 5:30am on a Saturday. “But on a day in December she will take over one of your shifts in exchange.”, I tell myself. It’s midnight by now. Work sucks. Why did I just renew my contract? Oh I forgot, I am a poor student and I am not good with money.

Detail some things that piss you off - stress triggers - feel free to explain the reasons why these things irritate you - I don't want to hear about mild irritations - I want to hear about things that simply make your blood boil, or make you want to take action to alter the situation - things that make you want to leave an environment, things that make you dislike someone, things that truly get to you as a person and grate on every fiber of your being.


I am revolted by people that want to shove their opinions down your throat, want to alter you to their liking, make fun of you for not enjoying what they enjoy, and are incapable of the tiniest bit of empathy to understand what another person might feel.
For example, those people on parties that want to make you drink loads, especially during “drinking games”, and get on you for leaving before them. “Girl, just lose up a little and have some FUN!” I seriously want to punch those people. Basically I am someone who tolerates every opinion (as long it’s not hurting someone/is hateful/racist/xenophobic/homophobic, hmm I see I actually don’t respect every opinion, but I guess you get what I mean), I think “live and let live” describes my attitude quite well, although I do educate people around me, if I feel like they are totally wrong and misinformed on a certain issue. I accept a different opinion, if I feel like the person has as much insight on a problem as possible and still thinks differently about it than I do. And I also realize that this actually has nothing to do with the question at hand. Sorry for that. To sum it up, I expect people to treat me like I do treat them and if that’s not the case, I get angry.
I also strongly dislike people who feel superior to everyone else and wear an attitude that shows their superiority. I value humbleness.
And last but not least I am pissed off by people who exploit the weak. This can be applied to lower levels such as the lazy student who will always copy the nerd’s homework without ever paying back or thanking. Or to dictators exploiting the population whilst entrenching themselves in huge mansions with their servants.

Detail a time (or times) in your life when you felt at your absolute best - when you didn't feel any kind of anxiety, when you didn't feel judged, when you felt appreciated for who you are, when you felt at your most creative, when you felt like "you".. you get the gist. You at your best, tell us about it.


That has to be the time 4.5 years ago, when I had finished my A-levels with very good results. I had just applied to medical school, I had just quit figure skating and I simply felt free. It was July. There were still 3 months before university would start. I felt like I could do anything I wanted. All I saw were possibilities. New experiences. A new life! I felt like I was about to break free of the corset of school, training and my parental home. That daily grind was soon to be forgotten. (How wrong I was…)


What are the strongest parts of your personality? The best traits about yourself.

I am strong-willed and hard working. I don’t give up easily. If I see a point in working towards a certain goal, I am very committed and don’t mind dedicating a good amount of time on this specific issue.
I am very composed and calm on the outside. I can trick people easily into believing that I am self-confident (even if I’m not) and sure of what I am doing simply by radiating that certain sense of calm. I’ve been told by patients that I make them feel like they are in good hands, because of my calm, distinct and friendly way of talking and acting.


What is one specific trait that you value in others, yet simply do not possess yourself - though, if you were to work on it, it would really balance out your personality?


Worrying less about the future, living more in the moment.
And stopping that evil thing called procrastination. I’ve got a lot stuff to accomplish that doesn’t interest me and doesn’t really contribute to a future I am longing for. To be specific, I hate to study medicine, I don’t really want to be a medical doctor in the sense of prescribing pills or doing surgery without really getting to know the person behind the problem. Many doctors forget that there is a human being right in front of them that is more than a sum of diagnoses. The only specialties I like are psychiatry, to some extent neurology and general medicine. But I am still in med school, because it took me 3 years to come to terms with this and then I simply didn’t have the guts to quit. So here I am, still studying something that I don’t like. And that’s really hard for me. So I procrastinate. A lot. And if I would just suck it up and get things done, I would have much more free time to do things I actually enjoy and work out a way I can be happy in the future.
Basically I have to start acting and stop being afraid of possibly unsuccessful outcomes. Dreaming is fine as long as you try to turn them into reality.


What are the differences between how others see you, and how you see yourself?
Feel free to elaborate and explain the reasoning.


I’ve already mentioned above that people perceive me as the quiet, calm, self-confident. Though I am often the opposite. I can get very anxious and self-conscious. I am afraid of making mistakes that could harm others and not living up to expectations. But I don’t show it.
Sometimes people think I am rather arrogant as I can come off as pretty aloof, but I am in all honesty not arrogant. It’s just that sometimes I am shy and don’t really participate in a group conversation, especially with strangers. I’d rather sit and listen to get a grasp of what the others are like.


Section 3.



What is a perfect day to you?
What is a perfect night to you?


To me there is no such a thing like a perfect day or night. To me “perfect” means that I would be content to live this day over and over again, but boy would this be boring. I need variety in my life. What I enjoy might change from day to day as well, it depends on my mood. One day I might feel rather adventurous and go out to explore, attend some sort of a performance, meet someone. And the day after I might want to stay home cuddled up in a blanket with a good book to escape from reality.
I guess in general one can say that on a “perfect” day I would take a break from my current life, because it’s so unfulfilling and constraining. I hope that the day will come where my life is so good that I don’t need these days where I completely block out reality in order to function.


What is your idea of a perfect world?

Humanity and all other earthly inhabitants such as animals and plants are living in harmony. There is no war. Food is distributed equally, no one has to die from starvation. Men and women, black and white, gay and straight, everyone is treated equally. Nationality, sexuality, skin color, none of it matters.
This is never going to happen.


What is your idea of hell on earth?

When you don’t know, if you’ll live through the night due to the bombing of your hometown.
When you don’t know how you are going to feed your children, let alone yourself.
When you have to be afraid to raise your voice or to be your true self, because it might get you shot.
Hatred, violence, torture.


Section 4.


Are you, most of the time, acutely aware of the people, things and events occurring in your immediate surroundings?

Yes, most of the time. Sometimes it gets too much and I retreat back into my brain. For example, if I am in a very busy environment, I feel overstimulated and stop paying attention and then I almost cross the street at a red light or don’t notice people I know (“Wow, that stuck up b****. She feels so superior, she doesn’t even greet.”). I function on autopilot most of the time until a special detail catches my attention.

Do you find yourself engaging in the sounds, colours, textures, scents and tastes of your environment - i.e, enjoying what you are currently experiencing, most of the time?


I can be completely unaware of these sensory inputs, but I try to pay more attention and enjoy the little pleasures that come with appreciating them. The smell of freshly brewed coffee, the colorful leaves in autumn, the warmth on your face created by the last rays of sunlight. The feel of fresh bedclothes. You get it. I have to remind myself of actively engaging in these things, but if I do, it’s quite enjoyable.

Do you seek common ground, when faced with new situations - thoughts like "this is like _____" or "this is similar to _____" - something that will stabilise the current situation and turn it into something more comfortable for you?

Yes, usually I can detect something that reminds me of a past situation and helps to work my way into or through the new one.

Do you find you have a strong sense for how things 'should be', even when faced with something unfamiliar?


Hmm, I don’t think so.

Do you actively engage in promoting a harmonious atmosphere - be honest with yourself, this includes being a conflict-averse introvert.

Yes. I see myself as a mediator. I am a person who gets along well with basically everyone and therefore I often have to mediate arguments between different fractions of a group. Be it a friend cycle or a seminar group. I cannot function in a hostile atmosphere, so I try to make sure to sustain harmony whenever possible. I usually seek out middle ground where the fighting parties can meet.

Do you actively seek to connect with other people, and do you make use of social niceties in order to interact with people more smoothly - to make them feel validated, accepted, comfortable? - this includes regular use of "please", "thank you", etc.. general social niceties.

Sometimes yes. In general no. Let’s say I am going to a party and I know no-one but the host. Then I’ll probably initiate conversation. And yes I definitely make use of social niceties, especially if I am talking to strangers or people not very close to me. If I am with family or friends, I don’t pay as much attention to it. But I basically always say please and thank you.

Do you find yourself not being dependent on agreement and harmony around you, as long as the current situation doesn't impact on your own personal inner balance?
An example of this might be if you are doing something, and people are arguing in the same room - are you able to remain yourself, or will it affect your inner balance in a noticeable way?


A disharmonious atmosphere makes me uncomfortable, but I have learned to move on from it, if it has nothing to do with my life.

Do you try to win others over to your point of view, in debates, arguments or just chit-chat in general?
I.e seeking agreement from the other person. Have a real think about this question, and be honest with yourself.


Yes, I do. I want people to understand me and my reasoning and therefore I crave agreement. I reckon that there will always be people who won’t agree and I accept that, but ultimately, yes, I would like to persuade my counterpart. It’s of importance to me that my arguments are crucial and encourage to think about the issue.


You just read that a local vacuum company just went bankrupt.
What your thoughts - feel free to expand and explore your thoughts and ideas as much as you like here. Please don't say "who cares?". Just do it.


I feel sorry for the employees that now probably need to find a new job. I wonder, if there might be a program for the now unemployed to find them a new job and I wonder how the company got to the point of bankruptcy and if something could have been done to prevent this unfortunate outcome. Maybe the principal had an incapable financial consultant? Or he is incapable himself? Or the demand for vacuum cleaners is simply not high enough? Maybe they only sell these rather old-fashioned models, but people nowadays want vacuum robots (you know what I mean? :D)? Or they have been lacking quality in their products. Who knows. The bankruptcy might also affect the local economy. The local politicians will have to discuss how to prevent harm.

Do you comfortably juggle multiple possible options in your mind, when problem solving? Do you find yourself exploring each of them - entertaining any possibilities that may arise from them, and enjoy envisioning scenarios where these might play out?


Yes. I can come up with different scenarios (many of them quite catastrophic oops) easily, though I don’t explore all of them to their whole extent. Sometimes I jump from idea to idea and find it difficult to concentrate on one and follow “a path”.


Do you have a tendency to organise the world around you? Is it important for you to be in an orderly environment?
This might manifest as a preference for predictability - consider these questions on a smaller scale than what might be in your mind - i.e. is it important that the knifes go in the knifes slot, that the Nintendo games go where the Nintendo games go, etc..


Yes. I prefer a neat environment. I detest chaos, at least the obvious kind. My flat is usually clean, I do the dishes every day and most things have a certain space where they go. But sometimes I’m lazy and just put stuff in cupboards to have it out of my eyesight even though it should go somewhere else.

Do you find you are impatient with regards to efficiency?
Again, consider this also at a smaller scale - for example, do you prefer to rush through whatever chores that need to be done, so they're out the way?


No, not necessarily. If I have to get stuff like chores done, I tend to make them more enjoyable by, for example, listening to an audiobook whilst doing them, even if it takes longer. But sometimes I can get very impatient. For example, if I am running errands and people in front of me are walking super slowly, I get really impatient and annoyed. I am one fast walker :D

Do you find yourself taking over certain tasks because you know you can do it quicker?
This might be as mundane as telling your partner or friend, that you'll do the dishes - because you know they'll take forever and it's just 'better' for you to do it, and smash 'em out ASAP so they're done.


Sometimes yes. Depends on the task, if I like doing it and if it affects me.

Is it important for you to define things in your head?
This might manifest as googling words you've unfamiliar with so you actually know for sure what you're reading, or it might manifest as a preference to completely understand something to the point you can explain it to others in a simplified manner - born out of the precise definitions you've crafted in your mind.


Absolutely. Let’s say I need to give a presentation. I will make sure that I know the answer to all questions I can imagine. Therefore it is vital to understand the topic in depths. I like to explain the topic to people who aren’t experts and I also like to give the presentation to fellow students just for practice.

Is it of high importance to you, to understand all of the pieces of a puzzle.. or all of the information you're given, before coming to a decision or a conclusion about anything?
This might manifest as a tendency to hesitate when coming to conclusions or decisions as you don't feel you fully defined, or understood, all relevant information yet.

Yes (see answer above). If a decision/a valuation is involved, I want to know the details and understand. And yes, I can be very hesitant, weighing possibilities and not coming to a conclusion. In the end I usually go just by gut feeling.

I think I am either an ISFP or INFP from the standpoint of cognitive functions. Most probably Fi-dom, but not so sure, Se would follow? I see alot of Ne in myself.
When thinking about the dichotomies I would not type myself as a P type though, I am more of planner. Though I can also be pretty passive :/
What do you think? :)
 

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A starry sky somewhere in the wilderness?
You can see a galaxy, the milky way. It expands like a huge arch over the sky and glows in different colors, yellow, orange, blue-ish, white, pink, violet. Stunningly beautiful. The sky seems to be sputtered with stars all over.
Pictures like this one make me realize how small I am, how insignificant my problems are in relation to the grand scheme of things. Heck, all inhabitants of earth don’t matter. We are just living on this teeny tiny dot in one out of many universes. This also makes me think about extraterrestrial life. Which, I am absolutely sure, is a thing.
I also like the contrast between the sky and the ground/the trees.
I am seeing a few processes here.


fox
A fox is a dog/wolf-like animal primarily living in the forest. I associate it with red fur, tales, fables. There is this German childrens’ song: “Fuchs du hast die Gans gestohlen.” In preschool I had to play this on a glockenspiel, but I never practiced and failed to succeed. In fables the fox is called “Reineke” and he’s the epitome of a clever animal. If I am not mistaken, there is even an adjective called “foxy”. Which brings me to the German phrase: “Ich bin fix und foxi”. Means that you’re totally done. Which is actually true for me. But I’ve still 1.5 hours of training tonight. Meh.
That seemed very Si, to me.



The way I speak depends on my audience/my communication partner (obviously). At uni I often talk in a very elaborate and scientifically correct way. Some of my uni friends like to use sort of stilted, specific vocabulary and I happily engage in that. I use figurative language to illustrate what I want to tell and I like to come up with proverbs and sometimes puns. In general, I take care of getting to the point in a reasonable time, especially since aimless rambling of others freaks me out. I hate it, when people are outrageously stretching there stories and won't ever come to an end. Wrong grammar irritates me as well. I have to hold back on correcting my counterpart a lot. Sometimes I come off as a bit of a smartass.
When I do creative writing I like to use figurative and interesting language, something you would enjyo to read. On formal emails/letters I make sure to preserve the appropriate expression, correct grammar, punctuation and so on. I use arguments for support come off more confident than in reality
I am not very aware of my body language, but my dad says I talk with my hands a lot. He always mimics my gestures, which is kind of funny. In conversations I incorporate non-verbal communication skills by nodding in approval, smiling, shaking my head, twisting my mouth, frowning…
I’d say I’m a good listener, but if a conversation bores me, I stop paying attention and let my thoughts wander around or observe my surroundings. Sometimes my counterpart says something that reminds me of something else I want to talk about and if I am very eager to get this off my chest, I might just change the topic (if appropriate :D) to this completely new direction. Which might come off as weird.
In group situations I am rather a listener then a speaker. I often wait for the right moment to speak up and when this never arises I keep quiet. And afterwards I want to punch myself for being such a coward. I feel like what I say in a group has to have a lot of substance and I think a lot more before I speak than in one-on-one encounters where I talk more freely.
Possibly Si/Ne axis?


I prefer to have some time to think and reflect. I hate to make decisions pressed for time. It’s important for me to think about the consequences. If, what might happen, is resonating with my values, my wellbeing. If it might affect other people. I tend to juggle possibilities until I HAVE TO make a decision and usually I haven’t really figured out what would be best, so I just go by a gut feeling. Afterwards I am usually relieved since the distress that uncertainty evokes in me, has been lifted off my shoulders.
Sometimes I contemplate my decisions and doubt that I was right. If possible, I might even change them.
Problem solving is a bit different. I gather all available and useful information and try to find out if it provides any help to solve the question. It’s more of a structured, methodical approach that I have learned to use since I’ve been taught science.
To give a specific example: One of my colleagues asks, if someone can take over her shift tomorrow morning. No-one replies. She asks again. Tomorrow is moving day for her. She forgot about her shift tomorrow and definitely can’t go to work. Should I take it over? Hmm, still no-one has replied yet. It’s already late. I wouldn’t even get 6 hours of sleep. And I am not motivated. But she needs someone to jump in. She’s nice. I like her. She is going to work for me in December, so why not. I don’t have anything enjoyable planned anyway. I can nap after work. I reply “I can do it ”. She replies “Thank you so much!!” I am pissed, I don’t want to get up at 5:30am on a Saturday. “But on a day in December she will take over one of your shifts in exchange.”, I tell myself. It’s midnight by now. Work sucks. Why did I just renew my contract? Oh I forgot, I am a poor student and I am not good with money.
VERY Si. You prefer time to think, based on extrapolating from the past and thinking about the future, but in a more consequences type of way, which is more Si than Ni. You are also very linear and trial/error. I am also getting Fi from this, as Fe wouldn't consider it based upon their own compass, but from the perspective of the other person more.


I am revolted by people that want to shove their opinions down your throat, want to alter you to their liking, make fun of you for not enjoying what they enjoy, and are incapable of the tiniest bit of empathy to understand what another person might feel.
For example, those people on parties that want to make you drink loads, especially during “drinking games”, and get on you for leaving before them. “Girl, just lose up a little and have some FUN!” I seriously want to punch those people. Basically I am someone who tolerates every opinion (as long it’s not hurting someone/is hateful/racist/xenophobic/homophobic, hmm I see I actually don’t respect every opinion, but I guess you get what I mean), I think “live and let live” describes my attitude quite well, although I do educate people around me, if I feel like they are totally wrong and misinformed on a certain issue. I accept a different opinion, if I feel like the person has as much insight on a problem as possible and still thinks differently about it than I do. And I also realize that this actually has nothing to do with the question at hand. Sorry for that. To sum it up, I expect people to treat me like I do treat them and if that’s not the case, I get angry.
I also strongly dislike people who feel superior to everyone else and wear an attitude that shows their superiority. I value humbleness.
And last but not least I am pissed off by people who exploit the weak. This can be applied to lower levels such as the lazy student who will always copy the nerd’s homework without ever paying back or thanking. Or to dictators exploiting the population whilst entrenching themselves in huge mansions with their servants.
Fi, very Fi.


That has to be the time 4.5 years ago, when I had finished my A-levels with very good results. I had just applied to medical school, I had just quit figure skating and I simply felt free. It was July. There were still 3 months before university would start. I felt like I could do anything I wanted. All I saw were possibilities. New experiences. A new life! I felt like I was about to break free of the corset of school, training and my parental home. That daily grind was soon to be forgotten. (How wrong I was…)
Again, getting a bit of Si from this, though this question will have a tendency to evoke that, I would imagine.


I am strong-willed and hard working. I don’t give up easily. If I see a point in working towards a certain goal, I am very committed and don’t mind dedicating a good amount of time on this specific issue.
I am very composed and calm on the outside. I can trick people easily into believing that I am self-confident (even if I’m not) and sure of what I am doing simply by radiating that certain sense of calm. I’ve been told by patients that I make them feel like they are in good hands, because of my calm, distinct and friendly way of talking and acting.
Yes, I am not sure why you are a P; you're coming across very J with this paragraph. Though I will reserve my judgement until I can see the cognitive stack, perhaps.

Worrying less about the future, living more in the moment.
And stopping that evil thing called procrastination. I’ve got a lot stuff to accomplish that doesn’t interest me and doesn’t really contribute to a future I am longing for. To be specific, I hate to study medicine, I don’t really want to be a medical doctor in the sense of prescribing pills or doing surgery without really getting to know the person behind the problem. Many doctors forget that there is a human being right in front of them that is more than a sum of diagnoses. The only specialties I like are psychiatry, to some extent neurology and general medicine. But I am still in med school, because it took me 3 years to come to terms with this and then I simply didn’t have the guts to quit. So here I am, still studying something that I don’t like. And that’s really hard for me. So I procrastinate. A lot. And if I would just suck it up and get things done, I would have much more free time to do things I actually enjoy and work out a way I can be happy in the future.
Basically I have to start acting and stop being afraid of possibly unsuccessful outcomes. Dreaming is fine as long as you try to turn them into reality.
This would either fall into Si or Ni, but the fact you seem to focus on many, worrying possibilities indicates Si rather than Ni. Si/Te seems to be coming through again.


I’ve already mentioned above that people perceive me as the quiet, calm, self-confident. Though I am often the opposite. I can get very anxious and self-conscious. I am afraid of making mistakes that could harm others and not living up to expectations. But I don’t show it.
Sometimes people think I am rather arrogant as I can come off as pretty aloof, but I am in all honesty not arrogant. It’s just that sometimes I am shy and don’t really participate in a group conversation, especially with strangers. I’d rather sit and listen to get a grasp of what the others are like.
Is a very IxTJ/ExTJ response; they're mostly the ones who will come across as arrogant or aloof. Also points towards introversion.


To me there is no such a thing like a perfect day or night. To me “perfect” means that I would be content to live this day over and over again, but boy would this be boring. I need variety in my life. What I enjoy might change from day to day as well, it depends on my mood. One day I might feel rather adventurous and go out to explore, attend some sort of a performance, meet someone. And the day after I might want to stay home cuddled up in a blanket with a good book to escape from reality.
I guess in general one can say that on a “perfect” day I would take a break from my current life, because it’s so unfulfilling and constraining. I hope that the day will come where my life is so good that I don’t need these days where I completely block out reality in order to function.
Could be inferior Se, or just a general distaste for not enjoying your current life plan. So far, you seem to be leaning towards Si-dom, but this is not a very Si-dom answer at all. That, again, might be because your routine is simply not enjoyable right now.


Humanity and all other earthly inhabitants such as animals and plants are living in harmony. There is no war. Food is distributed equally, no one has to die from starvation. Men and women, black and white, gay and straight, everyone is treated equally. Nationality, sexuality, skin color, none of it matters.
This is never going to happen.
Possibly leaning more F now.


When you don’t know, if you’ll live through the night due to the bombing of your hometown.
When you don’t know how you are going to feed your children, let alone yourself.
When you have to be afraid to raise your voice or to be your true self, because it might get you shot.
Hatred, violence, torture.
Section 3 has evoked more of your feeling capacities, it seems.


Yes, most of the time. Sometimes it gets too much and I retreat back into my brain. For example, if I am in a very busy environment, I feel overstimulated and stop paying attention and then I almost cross the street at a red light or don’t notice people I know (“Wow, that stuck up b****. She feels so superior, she doesn’t even greet.”). I function on autopilot most of the time until a special detail catches my attention.
Either Si or inferior Se.


I can be completely unaware of these sensory inputs, but I try to pay more attention and enjoy the little pleasures that come with appreciating them. The smell of freshly brewed coffee, the colorful leaves in autumn, the warmth on your face created by the last rays of sunlight. The feel of fresh bedclothes. You get it. I have to remind myself of actively engaging in these things, but if I do, it’s quite enjoyable.
Same as above.


Yes, usually I can detect something that reminds me of a past situation and helps to work my way into or through the new one.
More Si, but possibly Ni.


Yes. I see myself as a mediator. I am a person who gets along well with basically everyone and therefore I often have to mediate arguments between different fractions of a group. Be it a friend cycle or a seminar group. I cannot function in a hostile atmosphere, so I try to make sure to sustain harmony whenever possible. I usually seek out middle ground where the fighting parties can meet.
Fe in isolation, but I think it's more indicative of needing order rather than a strict feeling function.


Sometimes yes. In general no. Let’s say I am going to a party and I know no-one but the host. Then I’ll probably initiate conversation. And yes I definitely make use of social niceties, especially if I am talking to strangers or people not very close to me. If I am with family or friends, I don’t pay as much attention to it. But I basically always say please and thank you.
Would indicate F lower in the stack.


A disharmonious atmosphere makes me uncomfortable, but I have learned to move on from it, if it has nothing to do with my life.
Same as above; possibly leans towards tertiary feeling.


I feel sorry for the employees that now probably need to find a new job. I wonder, if there might be a program for the now unemployed to find them a new job and I wonder how the company got to the point of bankruptcy and if something could have been done to prevent this unfortunate outcome. Maybe the principal had an incapable financial consultant? Or he is incapable himself? Or the demand for vacuum cleaners is simply not high enough? Maybe they only sell these rather old-fashioned models, but people nowadays want vacuum robots (you know what I mean? :D)? Or they have been lacking quality in their products. Who knows. The bankruptcy might also affect the local economy. The local politicians will have to discuss how to prevent harm.
Te/Fi axis somewhere in the stack, most likely.


Yes. I can come up with different scenarios (many of them quite catastrophic oops) easily, though I don’t explore all of them to their whole extent. Sometimes I jump from idea to idea and find it difficult to concentrate on one and follow “a path”.
Again, Si springs to mind.


Yes. I prefer a neat environment. I detest chaos, at least the obvious kind. My flat is usually clean, I do the dishes every day and most things have a certain space where they go. But sometimes I’m lazy and just put stuff in cupboards to have it out of my eyesight even though it should go somewhere else.
Leaning towards J preference, again.


No, not necessarily. If I have to get stuff like chores done, I tend to make them more enjoyable by, for example, listening to an audiobook whilst doing them, even if it takes longer. But sometimes I can get very impatient. For example, if I am running errands and people in front of me are walking super slowly, I get really impatient and annoyed. I am one fast walker :D
Again, J leanings. Also, I completely get that impatience when needing to do errands and people are slow. I hate errands, and if people are holding me up? God damn...heh.


Sometimes yes. Depends on the task, if I like doing it and if it affects me.
Possible, but relaxed, Te. Definitely not dom Te, however.


Absolutely. Let’s say I need to give a presentation. I will make sure that I know the answer to all questions I can imagine. Therefore it is vital to understand the topic in depths. I like to explain the topic to people who aren’t experts and I also like to give the presentation to fellow students just for practice.
Could be Ni/Te or Si/Te. But considering above, I'd lean towards Si/Te. Possible Ne having an influence.


Yes (see answer above). If a decision/a valuation is involved, I want to know the details and understand. And yes, I can be very hesitant, weighing possibilities and not coming to a conclusion. In the end I usually go just by gut feeling.
Si is showing itself again.


I think I am either an ISFP or INFP from the standpoint of cognitive functions. Most probably Fi-dom, but not so sure, Se would follow? I see alot of Ne in myself.
When thinking about the dichotomies I would not type myself as a P type though, I am more of planner. Though I can also be pretty passive :/
What do you think? :)
Actually, from what I have observed, I would suggest IxTJ, with tentative ISTJ. I am definitely getting Fi, but some answers suggest lower on the stack, and I am getting heavy Si with support from Te. It's possible you are a very grounded and prepared INTJ, as I find Ni can be very hard to type over questionnaires and can resemble Si in grounded types, but the writing and general direction didn't convince me of Ni enough to override my ISTJ leanings. But those would be my two leanings, regardless.

Not getting much Se, apart from that one answer about spontaneity (which, I agree, made me question ISTJ slightly) and - I see slight shadows of Ne - but very low, if it is.

Feel free to completely disagree, but that is my gut. It was my initial gut when I read this yesterday (without going through it with a fine-toothed comb), and I can see why I thought that now.
 

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I am seeing a few processes here.




That seemed very Si, to me.





Possibly Si/Ne axis?




VERY Si. You prefer time to think, based on extrapolating from the past and thinking about the future, but in a more consequences type of way, which is more Si than Ni. You are also very linear and trial/error. I am also getting Fi from this, as Fe wouldn't consider it based upon their own compass, but from the perspective of the other person more.




Fi, very Fi.




Again, getting a bit of Si from this, though this question will have a tendency to evoke that, I would imagine.




Yes, I am not sure why you are a P; you're coming across very J with this paragraph. Though I will reserve my judgement until I can see the cognitive stack, perhaps.



This would either fall into Si or Ni, but the fact you seem to focus on many, worrying possibilities indicates Si rather than Ni. Si/Te seems to be coming through again.




Is a very IxTJ/ExTJ response; they're mostly the ones who will come across as arrogant or aloof. Also points towards introversion.




Could be inferior Se, or just a general distaste for not enjoying your current life plan. So far, you seem to be leaning towards Si-dom, but this is not a very Si-dom answer at all. That, again, might be because your routine is simply not enjoyable right now.




Possibly leaning more F now.




Section 3 has evoked more of your feeling capacities, it seems.




Either Si or inferior Se.




Same as above.




More Si, but possibly Ni.




Fe in isolation, but I think it's more indicative of needing order rather than a strict feeling function.




Would indicate F lower in the stack.




Same as above; possibly leans towards tertiary feeling.




Te/Fi axis somewhere in the stack, most likely.




Again, Si springs to mind.




Leaning towards J preference, again.




Again, J leanings. Also, I completely get that impatience when needing to do errands and people are slow. I hate errands, and if people are holding me up? God damn...heh.




Possible, but relaxed, Te. Definitely not dom Te, however.




Could be Ni/Te or Si/Te. But considering above, I'd lean towards Si/Te. Possible Ne having an influence.




Si is showing itself again.




Actually, from what I have observed, I would suggest IxTJ, with tentative ISTJ. I am definitely getting Fi, but some answers suggest lower on the stack, and I am getting heavy Si with support from Te. It's possible you are a very grounded and prepared INTJ, as I find Ni can be very hard to type over questionnaires and can resemble Si in grounded types, but the writing and general direction didn't convince me of Ni enough to override my ISTJ leanings. But those would be my two leanings, regardless.

Not getting much Se, apart from that one answer about spontaneity (which, I agree, made me question ISTJ slightly) and - I see slight shadows of Ne - but very low, if it is.

Feel free to completely disagree, but that is my gut. It was my initial gut when I read this yesterday (without going through it with a fine-toothed comb), and I can see why I thought that now.
Thank you for taking your time! :) Never ever have I gotten the T anywhere. Interesting. I don't see myself as a T-type as I consider how I feel about something in every decision making process. If I've finally come to a conclusion that doesn't resonate with my values, I feel extremely uncomfortable, but I guess sometimes it's just what you've got to do. In addition, I've been accused of being illogical (especially by my very T-like dad) and told to leave my feelings out multiple times. That being said I am a very private person and protective of my motives and values, which is probably making me appear more illogical than I actually am.

As for Se/Si: I have very stereotypical Se-hobbies. Dancing, playing the piano, going for walks/runs in nature. I have a past of competitive figure skating. I value aesthetics and art. I like to write, create things and show my affection through small, thoughtful gestures. That probably led to the suggestion of ISFP. But then I also fail to really live in the moment and truly be aware and enjoy what I am taking in. Plus, like you pointed out above, I probably use a good deal of Si as well. Oh nostalgia my old friend :D I am also aware of my bodily state most of the time, I am not someone to skip meals, I am easily bothered by very strong flavors and spicy food.
I wonder, if this is simply caused by my current situation and the unhappiness and uncertainty it brings.

I must also admit that I am quite uneducated when it comes to the Thinking-function as I have always suspected it to be somewhere on the lower end in my case. I am going to do some further research this weekend. Thanks again!
@Soul Kitchen, @Birbsofafeather and @Turi, you three were so helpful on my first thread. I hope it's not too brash to ask for your opinion again. After all you can just ignore this, if you prefer to. :)
 

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A few questions for you, @undsietanzt .

1) How well did you do in school as a child? As an adult? How did you learn and study to get good grades if you did as both a child and adult.
2) What is a hierarchy to you? What is the importance of one?
3) Do you act differently around different groups? How would you feel if you were in a group of contrasting individuals, such as some being formal and others being casual.
4) What is the purpose of socialization? What is the purpose of friends?
5) How long does it take for you to respond to a text? To write an email? Why?

Lastly, can you expand upon this?
Oh I forgot, I am a poor student and I am not good with money.
This will hopefully help with a few key questions on my mind.
 

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@Birbsofafeather Thank you! There you go :)

1) How well did you do in school as a child? As an adult? How did you learn and study to get good grades if you did as both a child and adult.
I did well as a child and as an adult. I learned reading and writing easily, I was good at essays in grammar school, but sometimes my stories lacked a logic that everyone could grasp (I remember that my teacher once read one of my stories to the whole class simply to state an example for lacking structure and logic. I cried for the rest of the class ...) Maths took me a bit longer to get into. But I was always an "above average" student in grammar school. In high school I graduated with straight As in all my classes. School has always been easy. I didn't put much effort into studying, because I simply didn't need to. Most things came naturally to me. Especially German, English, biology, geography. I don't remember that I spent much time trying to remember facts. I just read tasks and wrote down my answers without thinking much. In German class we analyzed lots of poems and prose and our teacher always wanted us to outline a concept before we actually started to write our essays. I never did that and just started to write, going with the flow and my train of thoughts. It always worked. I had to put most effort into maths, chemistry and physics, but I still got very good grades.
Now at university I still get good grades. Many of the things we have to learn in med school are facts. You simply have to remember them by heart. I dislike this type of studying. I'd rather understand an underlying concept and see how new information fits into it, but most of the time this isn't possible (there are some exceptions though). Due to my tendency to procrastinate, I stumble upon questions I've never really heard of from time to time, but since many of our tests are based on multiple choice questions, I still answer them right as I am good at chosing the most probable answer. I just listen to my gut instinct and usually I succeed this way.

2) What is a hierarchy to you? What is the importance of one?
My definition of hierarchy is the structuring of a certain population with regards to responsibility, power and reputation with few people at the top and many at the bottom of the ladder (please excuse me, if this sounds very awkward, but it's harder than I thought to write about topics like this in English). I believe that to some extent hierarchy is necessary as some people have natural leading abilities and others are better at following instructions or don't want to occupy a position that requires above mentioned attributes. Hierarchy creates order in an otherwise chaotic world. The majority of humans needs at least some guidance. As long as the intentions of leaders are good and honest, the concept of hierarchy is very helpful.

3) Do you act differently around different groups? How would you feel if you were in a group of contrasting individuals, such as some being formal and others being casual.
Yes, I do. I refer to myself as a social chamaeleon. I know what a group expects me to be like and I act accordingly to that. During my whole life I've been accepted by all different kinds of groups. In school, for example, I was accepted by the cool kids, the nerds, the "normalos". Not sure where I actually fitted in. In a group consisting of contrasting individuals I would base my behavior on the whole setting of the given situation. On what kind of occasion did the group come together? How should one usually behave on this certain occasion?

4) What is the purpose of socialization? What is the purpose of friends?
I'd say we socialize to share experiences, feelings, new understandings, values. What we give to each other sums up to something greater than the small fractions everyone of us has to offer. By sharing our thoughts we understand each other and ourselves better, we can dminish sorrows, increase happiness, refine theories and finetune processes to maximum efficiency. Going through the same sensual experiences (such as a meetup in a cafe, a walk, visiting a concert...) also helps to create strong bonds.
The purpose of friendship is linked to what I just wrote above. Friends are people who care about each other, go with you through thick and thin. People you can turn to for advice and emotional support and in advance you offer the same to them. People who will help you grow and still be accepting of your weaknesses.

5) How long does it take for you to respond to a text? To write an email? Why?
It can take me a while, because I want to make sure I've expressed what I've been wanting to get across in an understandable way. Ofc it depends on the context. If we are talking about a simple text from a friend, I am usually replying quickly, but sometimes I can be completely negligent of my phone and simply ignore texts (it can be annoying to live in a world where you should be available 24/7). Replying to emails usually takes me a bit as they require a more formal outline most of the time. I like to double check for mistakes and the content should be well chosen.

And lastly my relationship to money :D I tend to spend more than I should, because I don't really pay attention to prices when going shopping for my daily needs. I have a thing for cute organic stores offering overprized weird products, I like to buy high quality food in general. I am not someone to watch every penny, because money is simply not very important to me. I deliberately spend it on food, books, drug store products, presents, netflix, clothes, doctors without borders. And then in the end of the month there is nothing left to put aside :S :D
 

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@Birbsofafeather Thank you! There you go :)

1) How well did you do in school as a child? As an adult? How did you learn and study to get good grades if you did as both a child and adult.
I did well as a child and as an adult. I learned reading and writing easily, I was good at essays in grammar school, but sometimes my stories lacked a logic that everyone could grasp (I remember that my teacher once read one of my stories to the whole class simply to state an example for lacking structure and logic. I cried for the rest of the class ...) Maths took me a bit longer to get into... Many of the things we have to learn in med school are facts. You simply have to remember them by heart. I dislike this type of studying. I'd rather understand an underlying concept and see how new information fits into it, but most of the time this isn't possible (there are some exceptions though).
Perfect! The response you wrote was just what I needed! I'm feeling more confident that you are a feeler who also uses Ti, and in turn Fe.

2) What is a hierarchy to you? What is the importance of one?
My definition of hierarchy is the structuring of a certain population with regards to responsibility, power and reputation with few people at the top and many at the bottom of the ladder (please excuse me, if this sounds very awkward, but it's harder than I thought to write about topics like this in English). I believe that to some extent hierarchy is necessary as some people have natural leading abilities and others are better at following instructions or don't want to occupy a position that requires above mentioned attributes. Hierarchy creates order in an otherwise chaotic world. The majority of humans needs at least some guidance. As long as the intentions of leaders are good and honest, the concept of hierarchy is very helpful.
An immediate human-orientation. This strikes me as Ji, due to the distaste of chaos. Could easily be Si-Fe.

3) Do you act differently around different groups? How would you feel if you were in a group of contrasting individuals, such as some being formal and others being casual.
Yes, I do. I refer to myself as a social chamaeleon. I know what a group expects me to be like and I act accordingly to that. During my whole life I've been accepted by all different kinds of groups. In school, for example, I was accepted by the cool kids, the nerds, the "normalos". Not sure where I actually fitted in. In a group consisting of contrasting individuals I would base my behavior on the whole setting of the given situation. On what kind of occasion did the group come together? How should one usually behave on this certain occasion?
Fe.

4) What is the purpose of socialization? What is the purpose of friends?
I'd say we socialize to share experiences, feelings, new understandings, values. What we give to each other sums up to something greater than the small fractions everyone of us has to offer. By sharing our thoughts we understand each other and ourselves better, we can dminish sorrows, increase happiness, refine theories and finetune processes to maximum efficiency. Going through the same sensual experiences (such as a meetup in a cafe, a walk, visiting a concert...) also helps to create strong bonds.
The purpose of friendship is linked to what I just wrote above. Friends are people who care about each other, go with you through thick and thin. People you can turn to for advice and emotional support and in advance you offer the same to them. People who will help you grow and still be accepting of your weaknesses.
Fe-Se with some underlying Ni.

5) How long does it take for you to respond to a text? To write an email? Why?
It can take me a while, because I want to make sure I've expressed what I've been wanting to get across in an understandable way. Ofc it depends on the context. If we are talking about a simple text from a friend, I am usually replying quickly, but sometimes I can be completely negligent of my phone and simply ignore texts (it can be annoying to live in a world where you should be available 24/7). Replying to emails usually takes me a bit as they require a more formal outline most of the time. I like to double check for mistakes and the content should be well chosen.
Seems very picky, suggesting a more thorough function, like Ni, Ti, Si along with hints of Fe.

And lastly my relationship to money :D I tend to spend more than I should, because I don't really pay attention to prices when going shopping for my daily needs. I have a thing for cute organic stores offering overprized weird products, I like to buy high quality food in general. I am not someone to watch every penny, because money is simply not very important to me. I deliberately spend it on food, books, drug store products, presents, netflix, clothes, doctors without borders. And then in the end of the month there is nothing left to put aside :S :D
This strikes me as being inferior Pe.

I believe that you are on the Ni-Se axis, but now probably the Ti-Ne axis as well. (I'm not what the plural of axis is, and I'm in too much in a rush to look it up.)
 

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@Birbsofafeather How can you be on two axes (I googled the plural :D)? Could you please explain it? Do you mean it's an axis one uses that is further down in the stack of cognitive functions?
 

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@Birbsofafeather How can you be on two axes (I googled the plural :D)? Could you please explain it? Do you mean it's an axis one uses that is further down in the stack of cognitive functions?
Why of course I can explain it :). By the way, I made a preeeetty big typo. I think you are on the Ti-Fe and Ni-Se axes.

I am not an expert on this and have recently learned it, so I strongly encourage you to look this up for yourself. There is a chance my understanding is flawed.

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Examine this image. These are all of the cognitive stacks of the 16 types. You will notice something. If someone has Fi, they also have Te. If someone has Fe, they also have Ti. If someone has Si, they also have Ne. If someone has Se, they also have Ni. The reason we refer to these as axes is because they are intrinsically connected to one another. So if someone is on the Ne-Si and Fi-Te axis, they could be an ESTJ, an ISTJ, an INFP or an ENFP. All four of those use Ne, Si, Fi, and Te in their main stack, just in different orders.

Hopefully that answers your question :). I typed up some information explaining why this is below but spoilered it because it is extraneous information.

 
There is another trend that you may notice. There are never two introverted or two extroverted functions next to one another. After I realized this my immediate reaction was "but why?" Why theoretically, could someone not be Ni Ti Se Fe? I came to conclusions myself and there is thankfully theory to support it.

Alright, so Jungian functions are split into two parts, judging functions and percieving functions. The judging functions are all of the thinking and feeling functions and the percieving functions are intuiting and sensing functions.

Or perhaps if this is easier to visually process:

Judging: Fi, Fe, Ti, Te
Perceiving: Ni, Ne, Si, Se

A perceiving function is what we use to take in (or perceive information about our world. It is the lens through which we take in and process information. There is a reason that Ni and Se are always paired and Ne and Si are always paired. In order to extrapolate a branching set of patterns, Ni needs raw, unfiltered information, which is why Se is needed. On the flip side, Se needs Ni because being in the present effectively relies on the subconscious knowledge of the framework of the world. In order to create possibilities and connect ideas, Ne must have a library of information and past experiences, or Si. On the flip side, in order to detect differences between the past and present, Si must be able to use Ne in order to link things together.

A judging function is what we use to assess or judge information and make decisions. The extroverted and introverted functions in this instance balance one another out. If we made decisions purely on how it would effect us on an internal-- in other words, introverted-- basis, then that would be unhealthy. If we didn't consider ourselves at all, that would also be unhealthy. In order to understand things and make decisions, we have to understand them from a personal basis and an environmental basis.

As for why stacks alternate between introverted functions and extroverted functions, that is because functions like to work together! An INTJ and an INFJ use their Ni in different ways because their second function is different. An INTJ is using Ni to take in the information and Te to assess it. An INFJ is using Ni to take in information and Fe to assess it.
 

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@Birbsofafeather thank you! Now, after the correction of your typo, it makes sense. I've already stumbled across this overview a few days ago. :)
So if I use these two axes, I could be an ISTP, INFJ, ESFP or ENFJ. The extraverted types are out of question for me though. Two or three weeks ago, I was convinced I was an ISFP, and now I am as unsure as I've always been. I can't really come to terms with Si being somewhere deep down in the stack since I have a very detailed memory of some past experiences and at times I can be extremely nostalgic. But I wonder how much of this reoccurent nostalgia can be accounted for my current situation of unhappiness and an uncertain future. I mean it's pretty logical one starts to dwell on the "good old past", if the prospect of the future isn't exactly encouraging.
 

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I was thinking INFJ or ENFJ through some parts I read. I apologize, I am nit the best when it comes to typing (life is a learning curve). During times of stress it's usually hard to read yourself. Sometimes figuring out your inferior function helps. For me even that can be tricky at times. There were a few moments I got the sense of ISTJ or ISFJ, but that could be me trying to avoid bias towards intuitives which seems to be a lot of people on this forum sometimes.
 

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I was thinking INFJ or ENFJ through some parts I read. I apologize, I am nit the best when it comes to typing (life is a learning curve). During times of stress it's usually hard to read yourself. Sometimes figuring out your inferior function helps. For me even that can be tricky at times. There were a few moments I got the sense of ISTJ or ISFJ, but that could be me trying to avoid bias towards intuitives which seems to be a lot of people on this forum sometimes.
Thanks for taking your time even when you are new to typing (I am as well)! I took a few different "MBTI" tests for fun 2-3 years ago when I didn't know anything about it and I've always scored either INFJ or INFP. These tests are usually biased towards intuition, so I am not entirely sure that the results are accurate. I think I possess some ISFJ traits (probably due to Fe?), but this doesn't fit at all: "Si gives the sense of the SiFe being grounded and having a linear, black and white way of thinking about things." (source: typeinmind.com/sife ). I believe that almost everything is relative and can be interpreted in multiple way. What is right and wrong depends on the context of a situation and often these two categories can't even be applied at all.
 

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Is it possible that I am actually an Fi user, but the fact that I'm such a people pleaser and have trouble to stand up for my believes makes me appear more of an Fe user?
 

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Hallo wieder, @undsietanzt :)

I only skimmed through your questionnaire, but between what I read, my recollections of our previous exchange, and your interactions in this thread, I'm inclined towards typing you as an INFJ.

As I said before, you're most definitely an IF. I just don't see the T preference at all. On that note, I don't think you're just an IF, but also an INF. You consistently type as N in MBTI tests, have a preference for openness using the OCEAN model, and abstract and ruminate endlessly on observations - particularly in your musings on those pictures you looked at, and in reply to my question about the sea from our last exchange.

More importantly, INFs are not only much more likely to get seriously stuck into MBTI than ISFs - as an abstract personality theory system with relatively few immediate solutions - but INFs are the most likely type to see themselves as an endless puzzle and mystery waiting to be solved. I think this comes from an inner idealisation or search for an mould of some sorts... maybe needing to feel acknowledged (trying to find the word for it), but finding themselves more complicated than the dichotomies themselves could ever say?

As for the J vs. P front, I was thinking about how your answers to those questions you were asked, and they showed a distinct FJ leaning to them. I guess one could think of FJ and FP as Fe and Fi insofar as the Harold Grantian model piggybacks off of the dichotomy combinations, but I don't put much weight on that model. Anyway, I was thinking INFP for you, but thought otherwise. You put a lot of weight on your interactions within the context of an external group or standard, as shown by your "social chameleon" remark.

Various experts have suggested those stuck on J/P to choose P, as well as I for E/I, N for S/N (contrary to what forumites say about "sensor bias"), and F for T/F.
 

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Hello again @Soul Kitchen, nice to hear from you :)
I think I am slowly settling on INFJ/INFP with ISFP in the back, definitely an IF type like you suggested and probably INF :) As for "sensor bias": if I remember correctly, 20% of the population fall on the intuitive side of the spectrum and roughly 80% on the sensor side, but I don't think this can be applied to the online population as well as sensors are less likely to find themselves on these kind of forums. Afterall I've become pretty annoyed by the whole "sensor are less intelligent, cannot engage in abstract thinking..." bs. Being able to fully live in the moment and cherish all the different sensation must be wonderful. I love the idea of it, but came to realize that I am not gifted with this ability. Yes, I try, and this is what probably makes me appear more of an S-type in some of my posts on here, but it doesn't come naturally to me. Instead I have to force it and in the long run it can be exhausting and overwhelming.
Like you suggested, I don't see T in myself at all. IF for sure :)


Various experts have suggested those stuck on J/P to choose P, as well as I for E/I, N for S/N (contrary to what forumites say about "sensor bias"), and F for T/F.
That's interesting!

Btw, What's the story behind your name? Soul Kitchen sounds super interesting. Does it really have to do something with cooking or is it more of a reference to you nourishing your soul in whatever kind of way? Or something completely different? :)
 

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As for "sensor bias": if I remember correctly, 20% of the population fall on the intuitive side of the spectrum and roughly 80% on the sensor side, but I don't think this can be applied to the online population as well as sensors are less likely to find themselves on these kind of forums. Afterall I've become pretty annoyed by the whole "sensor are less intelligent, cannot engage in abstract thinking..." bs. Being able to fully live in the moment and cherish all the different sensation must be wonderful. I love the idea of it, but came to realize that I am not gifted with this ability. Yes, I try, and this is what probably makes me appear more of an S-type in some of my posts on here, but it doesn't come naturally to me. Instead I have to force it and in the long run it can be exhausting and overwhelming.
I think the ratio is closer to 70/30 as far as S/N goes, with N as a distinct minority. Nevertheless, we can expect N types to cluster around internet forums a lot more - particularly ones which discuss an abstract personality system - for a number of reasons.

Firstly, Intuitives in general - INs in particular - tend to live on the internet more than Sensors do. The internet is basically an enormous library you can access from any corner of the world, and is a source of culture and knowledge that Intuitives can tap into in order to sate their insatiable desires to know more. Asides from that, you don't have to beat around the bush to find someone with which to discuss abstract theories on the internet. If you want to launch straight into literary analysis or quantum physics or what have you, you can just jump straight onto a relevant internet forum and get to it.

Although I agree that people tend not to give Sensors enough credit as far as intelligence and creativity go, I'm of the opinion that Intuitives still have an advantage in these areas. Intuitives have a higher IQ score on average than Sensors, and the majority of scientists and artists are Intuitives. Being an Intuitive makes it easier to grasp the underlying principles behind a thing or phenomenom, which makes it easier to see the bigger picture or see how things connect to each other. This is why Intuitives tend to have a greater aptitude towards academia, while Sensors who slowly piece together one tree after another to make a forest have a steeper learning curve. On top of that, Intuition correlates with Openness, which is a quality that makes a person more willing to question their own assumptions and broaden their horizons, so Intuitives are more likely to take a deep interest in the arts. That's what art does at its best; it challenges and provokes our perceptions.

Of course the smartest Sensor will be much smarter than the dumbest Intuitive, and since there are many more Sensors in this world, this would partly offset that imbalance. Sensors are also capable of abstraction and discussing theory or philosophy, too, as each dichotomy is a spectrum instead of truly being binary. It just so happens that Sensors generally prefer to engage in tangible things in life. When my father shares his big ideas, he focuses on how society could operate more efficiently and better uphold justice, being the ESTJ he is. When people on public transport make small talk, they tend to gossip about their friends or tell funny stories. Even as an Intuitive, I can discuss these things too, but they just aren't of as much interest to me most of the time. Yet there can be distinct advantages to being a Sensor, such as practicality, being better at hands on learning, more attention to detail, having an easier time living in the moment, and desiring tangible results and successes.

It's funny you mentioned wanting to better connect in the moment and appearing to be a Sensor for doing so. On another forum, I was typed as an Se because I kept talking about wanting to do things, even though I had also displayed a lot of preference for abstraction. As someone who had typed a lot of Intuitives as Sensors (because, you know, "functions"), I found myself at the receiving end of that Sensor bias despite being certain I am Intuitive. Fortunately, I actually knew the function theory better than the person typing me as an Se, but it made me see just what the real sensor bias was in the typology community; less a belief that Sensors are dumb, and more a belief you have to be super special to be an Intuitive.

What's the story behind your name? Soul Kitchen sounds super interesting. Does it really have to do something with cooking or is it more of a reference to you nourishing your soul in whatever kind of way? Or something completely different? :)
It's the name of a Doors song - The Doors are one of my favourite bands. I was thinking about how Personality Cafe is essentially a soul kitchen because of all these different flavours (people with colourful personalities) intermixing, and as you say, it can potentially be a place to nourish your soul. Or my soul could be a dish I were preparing through mixing ingredients and giving them time to cook.
 
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