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OK, so I have been going back and forth on whether I am an INTP or an ENTP for about two weeks now. After analyzing the functions I decided I was an ENTP. Reason being is that I consider my Fe to be more highly developed than my Si. Having said that I have been spending time on both forums, and finding that I relate to both. I understand this is a very common dilemma for both INTP and ENTP.

So I'm going to list things specific to myself and let you guys pick it apart and interpret the information.

- I'm an obsessive researcher. I will spend hours trying to understand my new interest for nights on end. (I consider this fun, but also distracting because there are other more important things I should be doing.) It's also more like an itch I have to scratch, I cannot rest until I fully understand something. My interests are usually not that random, it connects with my other interests (I love philosophy, theology, psychology, science.) I also can't just buy a book on a whim for example, or just pick any movie, I research it first and based on reviews and actors I like, plus content etc I will base my decision. I mean, what a waste of time and money if I don't do this? (This often works against me though because I will have spent two hours researching and then I don't feel like it anymore or it's time for bed).

- I love my alone time, to the point I consider it "party time". Just me, my bed, my computer or a good book is my favourite! Too much of this though, can get depressing. My job involves socialising all the live long day! So I NEED to be alone for my sanity (however this makes it a little hard to tell just how much I enjoy spending time with people). But I do enjoy talking to people. I would say that I'm confident talking to people I don't know and small talk I have learned to be reasonably good at. I get nothing out of it, but it's kind of nice watching others faces light up when you are asking them questions you know they are interested in. However, if once I get to know a person and I sense they are extremely emotional creatures or that we are just no where near on a similar wave length (I don't even see their wave length lol). Or they are just annoyingly dim, I become much more awkward in conversation because I feel that I need to be more careful with my speech or change my way of thinking just to understand them on their level - I find this Exhausting and I generally just want to ignore them.

It's important to know that I am naturally very reserved. Speak when spoken to type of deal. So people are usually shocked when I am seen laughing and swinging my arms with reckless abandon. I am choosy about who I show this side of me to.

But if discover that this person gets me, and is very interesting and intellectually challenging, I can talk that persons ear off. Usually asking questions about a theory I have, or to discuss something interesting I read.
Now I don't discuss in order to improve on my theory, it's more out of curiosity and to pick their brain. I usually have already decided in my mind on the topic at hand, but hearing someone else's thoughts can help me better understand what I'm already thinking or else disprove it if I believe I could be wrong. Also I won't just go to anyone for this, If i want clarity and a succinct answer I turn to my INTJ fiance. (Poor thing suffers much of my incessant rambling and questions lol). If I want a discussion of the many possibilities, I would want an INTP (unfortunately I don't know any). :(

- I can be a grammar nazi, but I'm not too bad I don't think. I often get lazy and leave correct grammar behind if I'm just trying to get my thoughts out there, because I often think I'm just slowing myself down and I'll lose my train of thought if I'm wanting to be correct in my writing at the same time! I'm a confident writer, I am always careful to communicate the exact tone and use the right words. (Can I just say that I LOVE words?)

- I'm messy. My room is always a disaster, and I hate cleaning it because I just want to be in my bed reading and researching.

- I can be very gregarious. With people I trust (type doesn't matter), I am very sarcastic and animated. Arms flailing even when I am really excited. With my best friend (INFJ), I am always up to some kind of mischief, dragging her along for the ride. I love people watching, and I make up hypothetical conversations they are having, I make myself laugh lol. I like dancing, because I think it is OK to look silly in that context :p
I kind of enjoy being embarrassed, it's hilarious. Sometimes I will say something just for shock value.

- I'm optimistic. I don't need a plan for life, If my life is consistent with my morals I am happy. Learning, learning, learning all the time is a must for me too, I am passionate about subjects that are helpful to understanding what it means to be human.

- I have read that ENTP's love to debate, I do not. However I do constantly feel the need to bring a person to my line of thinking through a good discussion. I find people get touchy as it is with topics such as religion. I do not want to make it worse and witness their emotional out pouring. :s Firstly because it makes me uncomfortable and I feel guilty. People have often said that I am very well spoken (I have no idea what they are talking about). I often think I sound like an idiot even though my thoughts make complete sense. I'm animated when I talk too, my expression's are very visible (or so I've been told) and talking with my hands helps me speak smoothly.

- I think my Fe is rather high for an ENTP/INTP. I consider how a person might feel when I make a decision, but it annoys me that I am considering it. I feel like it gets in the way and makes the process unnecessarily painful at times. But I don't feel the need to make others comfortable, in my mind that is their responsibility.

- I don't like being told what to do and my immediate impulse is to disobey just because I don't like being bossed around. Even if what they are wanting me to do makes sense. I like change when I am in control, otherwise I Hate it.

- When someone asks me a question, I am flooded with ways to answer that question and then have trouble answering it because there are so many ways to do it. I find that I have to ask them "can you be more specific?" or "Do you mean this or that?" before I can give a good answer. Otherwise I will just be overwhelming not just them but myself. I'm a stuttering stan when I have so many thoughts at once.

- I detest math, and am quite creative. I love reading fiction, particularly Science Fiction. I plan on writing a novel one day. I write poetry from time to time as well. I love fine art. My favourite TV shows might be considered rather boyish? The Walking Dead, Fringe, Hannibal, Suits, Supernatural. Seinfeld is hands down my favourite sitcom. If you were to look at my Ipod you would find hardcore metal, classical, jazz, pop and philosophy lectures - so my taste is rather eclectic.

- In terms of Ne usage, I do get a lot of ideas and I ask a lot of questions. I think that is when I can be the most vocal at times. Randomly asking an ISFJ what the marketing strategy was behind this awful jingle for a finance company, and explaining why I thought it would not work. She didn't care for the conversation and even seemed annoyed :s I annoy my INTJ fiance with a lot "What do you think if such and such a thing happened? would you say it is connected to this thing? or that thing?." Just endless hypothetical stuff. But I don't think my ideas extend to innovation. It's more like my questions are a way of getting to a truth from a different angle.

Ok, I think I've said enough..maybe even too much. Sorry guys. I think what has kept me back from typing myself as INTP is that, well, you seem extremely intelligent (especially in a mathematical kind of way). Where as I feel quite disorganised in my thinking. I am really not sure about my Si at all. I don't think I'm very good at remembering things I read. You guys just seem like such a serious bunch, and I'm rarely serious unless it involves questions of the universe and the like ;)

I read someone say that INTP's learn for the sake of learning, that it is out of curiosity. Is this true? For me, I choose to learn something because I find the subject valuable for myself and for others.
By the way, I am an Enneagram type 5w6. I hear this is common among INTP's but not so much ENTP's. However healthy ENTP's turn into type 5!
 

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good god

talk about this:

I'm optimistic. I don't need a plan for life, If my life is consistent with my morals I am happy. Learning, learning, learning all the time is a must for me too, I am passionate about
 

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lol
 

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TL;DR Go read up on cognitive functions and figure it out for yourself.
 
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Don't matter yo.
 

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Um first off:
1) I legit only properly read the first and last bits, I did skim through bit of the middle though?
2) @qingdom I was totally going to do that and now you've gone and stolen all my thunder and pissed all over my parade. Thanks. (But kudos for getting in there first!)

I think what has kept me back from typing myself as INTP is that, well, you seem extremely intelligent (especially in a mathematical kind of way). Where as I feel quite disorganised in my thinking. I am really not sure about my Si at all. I don't think I'm very good at remembering things I read. You guys just seem like such a serious bunch, and I'm rarely serious unless it involves questions of the universe and the like ;)
Okay, I identify (as much as I can do in a "I think that Myer-Briggs is to Horoscopes as the Hunger Games is to Twilight" way) as an intp, but I am shit-all serious, nor am I amazingly intelligent. My life is pretty much me giggling at absurdities and stupidity (admittedly I believe it may be a coping strategy to attempt to hide my crippling lack of normal social abilities...) But anyway, intp does not necessarily equal serious and intelligent, unless I am not in fact an intp at all (in which case my point will be invalid). Who knows? I bet no one gives a crap anyway (except those who believe themselves part of some elitist intp club, which I never received an invite for anyway. So I don't care if I'm somehow lessening the elitist image of intp-dom. :shocked: omg eyem lyk sum kyndov rebell oar sumtin).

Moral of the story: Maybe you are an intp after all, but it really doesn't matter in the end.
 

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Almost everything you wrote sounds more INTP

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- I think my Fe is rather high for an ENTP/INTP. I consider how a person might feel when I make a decision, but it annoys me that I am considering it. I feel like it gets in the way and makes the process unnecessarily painful at times. But I don't feel the need to make others comfortable, in my mind that is their responsibility.
isn't really well developed Fe IMO, It's inferior Fe trying to play it safe so it doesn't have to clean up a mess later.
ENTPs don't seem to care about others' feelings as much when making decisions. Probably because they have more confidence in their ability to smooth it over later.
 

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Wow we are so alike! Hahah I couldn't believe it when I read all of that because it was like reading about myself. But yes dear, you're like 1000% INTP, welcome to the club :] I am also thrown off sometimes about being INTP because I loathe stereotypical INTP interests like math (especially), sciences (chemistry, physics, etc), and gaming (both online and on game systems). I think these interests are so typical among INTPs because this type is dominantly found in males, and males tend to have a natural inclination to be more interested in left brain activities like maths and sciences, regardless of what their MTBI type is. More right brained subjects like theology, arts, humanities, psychology are areas that females gravitate more towards, also regardless of type.

So don't let the suggested INTP norms throw you off like it did me; everyone is different, and there are other factors that determine who you are besides MBTI. :]
 

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You gave a lot of information and not all is relevant. ENTP and INTP are very well the same. The thing I think that makes you more ENTPish is your need to learn and enjoyable experience with people. Especially small talk. I mean the fact that you like people's reaction is pretty strong Fe. And you seem like you learn for knowledge sake. INTPs read books mainly for truth but it seems you read more for Ne and to gain perspective. And it seems you have inferior Si since you are a scatterbrain with your room and just focus on interests. INTPs can be a bit less head in the clouds and more complex. But Ne and Fe seem rather high.

The main question you must ask is if you like to speculate speculate speculate and then analyze. If so, that's Ne going to work. And Ti adding to it over time. All possibilities are explored at hand with very little thought or analysis initially. INTPs explore Ne and dissect it, so it's more of a speculate analyze rinse and repeat kind of process. Really distinguish the difference between the two because that is going to answer your question more than anything. I'm an INTP often confused for being ENTP because I can be outgoing and lively but that's just part of my persona. My Fe is less apparent than other ENTPs and my thought process is more analytical.
 

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How is she extraverted though? She said she can get by when it comes to socializing and she's become better at small talk, but she ultimately looks forward to being alone.
 
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