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So masks are now mandatory in my area in interior public places. This is extremely controversial and people across the board have reacted very strongly to it one way or another. I was wondering what is you guys' opinions?


My personal take (so don't get triggered) on ranking types according to being pro-mask and enforcing it vs. being anti-mask and defying it.



You're selfish and socially irresponsible if you don't do it

1. ESFJ
2. ISFJ
3. ENFJ
4. INFJ
5. ISTJ
6. ESTJ

Mixed feelings but will comply for civility or getting this under control

7. ENTJ
8. INTJ
9. ENFP
10. ESFP
11. INFP

Fascist government trying to control us with a fake virus

12. ISFP
13. ESTP
14. ENTP
15. INTP
16. ISTP
 

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wow... your personal take has me like...!!!

literally 12-16 are my least favorite types. (please don't take offense, i just have a really hard time with those MBTIs)...

mind blown.o_O
 

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I’m an enfp - I strongly believe that everyone should wear a mask . My partner is an istp - he feels the same way , don’t really think this chart is accurate


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I'm INFP. I wear my mask in public. At home I do not. Husband is ISFJ. He wears his mask but grumbles about it more than me. I think the chart was funny. Made me laugh.
 

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So masks are now mandatory in my area in interior public places. This is extremely controversial and people across the board have reacted very strongly to it one way or another. I was wondering what is you guys' opinions?


My personal take (so don't get triggered) on ranking types according to being pro-mask and enforcing it vs. being anti-mask and defying it.



You're selfish and socially irresponsible if you don't do it

1. ESFJ
2. ISFJ
3. ENFJ
4. INFJ
5. ISTJ
6. ESTJ

Mixed feelings but will comply for civility or getting this under control

7. ENTJ
8. INTJ
9. ENFP
10. ESFP
11. INFP

Fascist government trying to control us with a fake virus

12. ISFP
13. ESTP
14. ENTP
15. INTP
16. ISTP
Well, this ENTP sees the point and would rather get this over with. The sooner we get the numbers down, the better so best to put up with the masks.
 

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dumb thread. don't get triggered
 

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Well, this ENTP sees the point and would rather get this over with. The sooner we get the numbers down, the better so best to put up with the masks.
My ENTP friend complained a lot about it but is ultimately doing it, which to be fair, seems like the typical reaction from the populace. But I guess there's the stereotype of ENTPs being natural contrarians. It's usually true but it's often in words and exchange of ideas. ISxP types are probably the ones most likely to straight up defy the order IMO.

Also, the US comes with some form of asterisk here because I suspect many of the anti-mask people, like those infamous Karens, are actually SJs who are rebelling because of political affiliation and sudden change that they won't accept. They'll often throw in the constitution in there for good measure which is a typical SJ move.
 

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My ENTP friend complained a lot about it but is ultimately doing it, which to be fair, seems like the typical reaction from the populace. But I guess there's the stereotype of ENTPs being natural contrarians. It's usually true but it's often in words and exchange of ideas. ISxP types are probably the ones most likely to straight up defy the order IMO.

Also, the US comes with some form of asterisk here because I suspect many of the anti-mask people, like those infamous Karens, are actually SJs who are rebelling because of political affiliation and sudden change that they won't accept. They'll often throw in the constitution in there for good measure which is a typical SJ move.
Older ENTPs are more strategic about their contrariness. I suppose it is the addition of tertiary Fe.
 

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Although it could go the other way if the conspiracy theory were something like - the virus is actually a weapon to get rid of the poor and weak. Then they'd probably be for more than just wearing masks... I wear a mask when going somewhere else indoors and think others should too until this goes away. INTP husband is the same.
 

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INTP. Mixed feelings I guess. If you don't wear a mask, maybe you have your reasons.

Social distancing, however:

I live in a hostel/guesthouse. I understand that it isn't practical to wear a mask all day in your temporary lodging. All the more reason to practice social distancing. Most people seem to have completely forgotten all about Covid and social distancing, e.g., they squeeze past someone instead of waiting for them to move, or they sit at a table with strangers and talk (breathe/spit) at each other. STAY AWAY FROM ME PEOPLE.
 

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ISTP.. I'd throw myself into this one.

You're selfish and socially irresponsible if you don't do it

I think people need to think beyond themselves. The mask isn't about you, its about everybody but you.
 

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ISTP. I wear a mask because it'll help slow the spread of the virus. If everyone wears it it'll just be that much easier to contain it. Seems like common sense to me.

Also, the mask can be a fashion item. I paid a bit extra for reusable cloth masks with designs.
 

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ENFP - no mixed feelings at all, and I wish people would wear masks in general when they're sick
I think it's the Js who complain the most and make public scenes as they're the most likely to deny reality and try to enforce theirs, especially the S who don't experience anyone being sick around them and whatnot. Maybe some SPs but less so. Fortunately the majority here are complying anyways.
 

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ESTP - I wear a mask. I am not trying to be locked in a hospital for weeks on end racking up medical bills or feeling like shit.
 

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My personal take (so don't get triggered) on ranking types according to being pro-mask and enforcing it vs. being anti-mask and defying it.
That's being introvert vs being introvert. J vs J. The most likely to enforce it on others are also the most likely to be irrationally paranoid about some conspiracy.

Because both reactions stem from trying to control the situation. Tyrannies and revolts are both the theatre of introversion.

Extraverts, so-called perceivers by the MBTI community... are more likely to adapt to the tyran, yet also to the reality that the tyran is wrong.

And wearing a mask or not because everyone they know does it or nobody they know is sick, are both S-based logic.
 

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I’m really both.

But I think I truly have a reason to think both on this given my occupation but also my views with the how this is all happening.

My biggest problem with most of the ‘precautions’ for Covid. Is how absolutely fucken counter productive half of the logic is. From health stand point the masks in theory have always been worn in my field in certain settings to prevent others from getting sick if I for example had a cough. Way before Covid. It also wasn’t news to me your supposed to wash hands and sanitize.

Anyways frankly my larger issue is I find it counter productive from a health precaution stand point. I think most people wearing masks to comply have no clue how to wear them proper, to wash them daily if there cloth, that the masks prevent them spreading germs but can trap germs in, etc etc. In healthcare when those masks are worn AND gloves they are changed EVERY transfer and transaction. I.e. proper glove wear in healthcare consists of changing gloves several times in steps even in care of same person. There are idiotic cashiers and delivery people wearing the same fucking gloves not just in the same interaction not even realizing when to change, but also wearing through multiple surface transaction and people or product.

My other view is the masks being imposed on people like my daughter who has Asthma and can get low blood sugar at times. She is 13 so I asked her if she wants to go to school and wear the mask or do home learning. She wants to go back to school. I’m going to be acting like a mother fucken Karen to her teachers about monitoring she can breath because her being INFP hates to impose and tell anyone when she is weak and faint.

But I think most of my opposition comes from a logical stand point on seeing the holes more so in the process. Most of these businesses and population have very little environmental health safety training and understanding of how to do procedures effective. I’m absolutely saying that as someone who was once an operator and internal auditor and tester and was also sent to sites being audited by my state to pass environmental safety tests.

So I’m not so much hating on the mind set of safety precautions and people’s health. As arguing the how it’s being done in most instances is not even the effective way.

The liberty part of the debate I’m sorta half and half. Under principle I do think some of this is a clue as to the control that can be enforced on people. My personal view is it would be ideal if more people just came from the mindset of wanting to do their part. But I don’t really agree with government enforcement. And as you know my biggest reason is because I’m about rolling eyes to the back of my head observing %80 of procedure interactions. So because I view it as counter productive in so many instances and in some ways worse. Because I think people are cross contaminating more or think they are safe in Walmart suddenly but not safe in a chlorine pool (WTF).

Anyways people should be kind and consider people around them. Stay 6 ft apart. Wear and change a clean mask out of civic duty not because government forces, don’t wear fucken gloves just wash your fucken hands. Stay home if you have symptoms. Don’t put on gloves or mask then sit on phone at store, then touch cart, produce, then another item and think that is safe 🤦🏻‍♀️. That is fucken stupid.

I wear a mask where I’m forced. My reason is not because I don’t wanna do my part. It’s because I don’t want to suffocate all the bacteria of the cross contamination inside my breathing space. If I’m showing symptoms I stay the fuck home. I stay 6ft away. And use a shit ton of hand soap and sanitizer. I don’t exhale near others when I can avoid.

I don’t believe the virus is fake. I believe it exists. I just think most of the precautions serve more as Placebo for people to feel better. And that the precautions can cause more cross contamination due to that blind faith. Like morons wearing the same gloves for hours. Thinking they are doing their part. But I think data is being distorted. And Covid is being used as a scare tactic too. I absolutely believe it exists and do not want to undermine the actual cases where it applies however. I stay away from elderly people. And limit my public interactions. Especially in supermarkets which are WAY more contaminated than many restaurants or hospitals.
 

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That's being introvert vs being introvert. J vs J. The most likely to enforce it on others are also the most likely to be irrationally paranoid about some conspiracy.

Because both reactions stem from trying to control the situation. Tyrannies and revolts are both the theatre of introversion.

Extraverts, so-called perceivers by the MBTI community... are more likely to adapt to the tyran, yet also to the reality that the tyran is wrong.

And wearing a mask or not because everyone they know does it or nobody they know is sick, are both S-based logic.
This don't make no sense!!!
 

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I wear a mask and keep distance around other people but I do think the media is spreading fear porn on the masses.

I know a certain ESTJ who said "everybody is gonna die" which is complete hysterical bs, then tried to convince me of this, he said I was not taking it seriously enough. This ESTJ ended up having a severe stroke 2 days later because he was not paying attention to what he was eating and in a state of constant anxiety/stress over covid 19.
 
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