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For those of you who are familiar with the Polish death/black/extreme metal band Behemoth, which MBTI type do you think he is, and why?

First of all, I have come across sites labeling him as types as diverse as INTJ, ENTJ, ENFP, ESFP, ISFP, ESTP, etc.

However, it is very much obvious and apparent that he utilizes Ne as his dominant cognitive function, much, much above the look-alike functions of both Se (extroverted sensing) and Fe (extroverted feeling).

Apparently, it is difficult to tell whether he is an ENTP or ENFP at first, as he displays characteristic traits of rationalism and emotionalism equally. As much as he is an individualistic thinker at soul, he also values group dynamics in an equally similar light.

Regarding the auxiliary-tertiary function axis, he utilizes Ti-Fe (introverted thinking-extroverted feeling) much more than Fi-Te (introverted feeling-extroverted thinking).

So based on a thorough and in-depth analysis and understanding of his interviews, autobiography, artistic work, and musicianship, I strongly infer and conclude that he is an ENTP.

Whether you choose to agree or disagree with me, feel free to debate.
 

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Listening to his lyrics, I would assume he's a N type.
To make a wild guess, since I haven't seen his interviews yet (even though I listened to alot of music of them), I would say ENTJ would fit him.
 

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Since I'm pretty new to PC and I don't enough posts to contribute, I won't be allowed to post YouTube links of his interviews. But I'll keep you updated on that in the near future.
 

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Here are the links to Adam Nergal Darski's interviews for further reference!
I am very surprised at your assertion that he uses Ne and Ti. I have always thought of him as using Ni and that his lyrics and message is very much a Fi one. Self empowerment, self mastery, inward exploration, etc. He has inspired my own Fi over the years and I relate to him on this level. I will be open to further discussion on this.

I see a lot of Ni in him. I will look back on interviews to find out where I'm getting this vibe, though.

Anybody know what his Enneagram is? He has a 4 thing going on, for sure, I'd say.
 

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I am very surprised at your assertion that he uses Ne and Ti. I have always thought of him as using Ni and that his lyrics and message is very much a Fi one. Self empowerment, self mastery, inward exploration, etc. He has inspired my own Fi over the years and I relate to him on this level. I will be open to further discussion on this.

I see a lot of Ni in him. I will look back on interviews to find out where I'm getting this vibe, though.

Anybody know what his Enneagram is? He has a 4 thing going on, for sure, I'd say.
https://www.instagram.com/nergal69/

Well, I have studied the cognitive functions theory thoroughly for about two years now; however, I assume you actually might know more about the cognitive functions into greater depth more than I do. I'm still learning.

So, how do you come to prove that Nergal utilizes Ni/Te (or Te/Ni), rather than Ne/Ti? What is proof that he actually utilizes Se much more than Ne?

Since you claim that he uses Ni and Fi, do you think that he's actually an ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, or ISFP, and how so?

Regarding his Enneagram profile, his instinctual variants are sx/so (sexual-dominant/social-auxiliary) for certain (we can discuss more into this if you'd like to), and his enneatype is probably either 6w7, 7w6, 7w8, or 8w7. And yes, it's very likely he has 4 as the secondary or tertiary position of his tritype, but not dominant.

Anyway, are you an Ni-dominant or -auxiliary user, too?
 

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https://www.instagram.com/nergal69/

Well, I have studied the cognitive functions theory thoroughly for about two years now; however, I assume you actually might know more about the cognitive functions into greater depth more than I do. I'm still learning.

So, how do you come to prove that Nergal utilizes Ni/Te (or Te/Ni), rather than Ne/Ti? What is proof that he actually utilizes Se much more than Ne?

Since you claim that he uses Ni and Fi, do you think that he's actually an ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, or ISFP, and how so?

Regarding his Enneagram profile, his instinctual variants are sx/so (sexual-dominant/social-auxiliary) for certain (we can discuss more into this if you'd like to), and his enneatype is probably either 6w7, 7w6, 7w8, or 8w7. And yes, it's very likely he has 4 as the secondary or tertiary position of his tritype, but not dominant.

Anyway, are you an Ni-dominant or -auxiliary user, too?
Well, to be very thorough I would have to provide interview examples and research a lot more into this than I have time for right now. I will say, though, that he is obviously motivated by his inner world and convictions which seems, to me, to be more of a Ni and Fi thing.

What's interesting to me and what I'd like to look more into is his before and after. After he beat Leukemia, he wasn't the same person as before. He seem much more intense and righteous after. He seemed to get even more into his ideology (satanism) and use this as a pillar of strength. This seems very Fi to me. This illness has triggered something functionally in him, it seems. He has mentioned that he doesn't really analyze his writing and lyrics all that much.

''Nergal: “No Sympathy for Fools” is just a hate anthem. There's no space or room for delicacy. It's just a crazy song. It's just different songs dealing with different stuff. I just write it and I don't know how people will react to it. I came down with some ideas the other day and I'm just hoping that it's really is positive stuff that's coming up about anything really, I don't analyze it.''

Even though he's said this, it's super hard to believe because his lyrics are mostly symbolic and pull from various literary and mythological sources. He obviously studies them. He literally uses Satanic theology to sort of 'embody' a character in his lyrics and puts his emotions into telling the story. On it's face, that seems very disengaged and not personal but listening to the music, he's obviously using this as catharsis.

That interview came out in 2012. Before the 'Satanist' album. That album [The Satanist] is full of symbolism and self- empowering lyrics. He is not overly preachy about it which would seem to point to him being a Fi user but more of the NTJ variety. He has extroverted energy, in my opinion. Direct eye contact, palpable intense energy coming from him, etc. He's also very ambitious and enterprising. So if I guessed his type I'd say INTJ or ENTJ. If he's an INTJ, he's quite an intense one.

Again, he seemed to be somewhat more lighthearted before the illness happened. The ending of the 'Satanist' album is so intense that it's unbelievable, really. It's overwhelmingly intense. The energy and how he delivers the lines is super empowering. So his energy rubs off on others, it seems. That's his effect which could point to Enneagram 8, after all. Since it's kind of a good way to gauge someone's Enneagram type by noticing their effect on others and you. His effect seems to be inspiring others to be themselves, live life on their own terms, etc. Very Fi stuff.

I am unsure of my type but I am a Ni - Fi user.
 

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https://www.instagram.com/nergal69/

Well, I have studied the cognitive functions theory thoroughly for about two years now; however, I assume you actually might know more about the cognitive functions into greater depth more than I do. I'm still learning.

So, how do you come to prove that Nergal utilizes Ni/Te (or Te/Ni), rather than Ne/Ti? What is proof that he actually utilizes Se much more than Ne?

Since you claim that he uses Ni and Fi, do you think that he's actually an ENTJ, INTJ, ESFP, or ISFP, and how so?

Regarding his Enneagram profile, his instinctual variants are sx/so (sexual-dominant/social-auxiliary) for certain (we can discuss more into this if you'd like to), and his enneatype is probably either 6w7, 7w6, 7w8, or 8w7. And yes, it's very likely he has 4 as the secondary or tertiary position of his tritype, but not dominant.

Anyway, are you an Ni-dominant or -auxiliary user, too?

To give a bit of an updated analysis on this, I have been looking at interviews, reading them, looking at subjects he talks about routinely, his Instagram posts, etc. And although it is inconclusive thus far, I will say that I am altering my first analysis a bit because I am now finding some Si in him and Ne. I still see Fi and Te, however.

I have not had time to extensively research but I think I can confidently say this much, his 'ENTJ' qualities as they relate to his band Behemoth, are more of a character that he gets into. In this sense he is likely an Enneagram 3 (3w4 sx) a performer type. The way he juggles various endeavors and alters himself very well to accommodate those ventures, seems very 3-ish. Obviously we can tell he is of a 4 bent as well. Lust for art, fashion, aesthetics.. and he likes to add his own 'spice' and flavor to everything that he's involved in.

Thus far I am concluding that he is ENFP, or ESTJ.

I lean more towards ENFP due to his Instagram being mostly about being with friends, charitable pursuits he's involved with, new ventures (Ne) looking at his own past (Si) and measuring how he is doing today compared to those times and how things have changed in a very matter of fact way (Te/si use).

I also think he is using Si when he recently (?) created a barber shop and was very into getting the 'vibe' just right in the place. Little things like this would indicate use of Si. Now, not that Se users can't be barbers or whatever but it is Si territory imo. He has very routine things he does like gym, yoga, his diet, etc. This all seems very Si+Te to me.

Oh yeah, and he is obviously a very 'Polish' person. What I mean by that is he has a certain 'Polish allegiance' about him. He's active in his town and community and encouraging to fellow Polish people from Warsaw. He obviously feels comradery with his fellow townsfolk in a very ESTJ like way. He cares a whole lot about the state of affairs in Poland. Government or otherwise.
 

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To give a bit of an updated analysis on this, I have been looking at interviews, reading them, looking at subjects he talks about routinely, his Instagram posts, etc. And although it is inconclusive thus far, I will say that I am altering my first analysis a bit because I am now finding some Si in him and Ne. I still see Fi and Te, however.

I have not had time to extensively research but I think I can confidently say this much, his 'ENTJ' qualities as they relate to his band Behemoth, are more of a character that he gets into. In this sense he is likely an Enneagram 3 (3w4 sx) a performer type. The way he juggles various endeavors and alters himself very well to accommodate those ventures, seems very 3-ish. Obviously we can tell he is of a 4 bent as well. Lust for art, fashion, aesthetics.. and he likes to add his own 'spice' and flavor to everything that he's involved in.

Thus far I am concluding that he is ENFP, or ESTJ.

I lean more towards ENFP due to his Instagram being mostly about being with friends, charitable pursuits he's involved with, new ventures (Ne) looking at his own past (Si) and measuring how he is doing today compared to those times and how things have changed in a very matter of fact way (Te/si use).

I also think he is using Si when he recently (?) created a barber shop and was very into getting the 'vibe' just right in the place. Little things like this would indicate use of Si. Now, not that Se users can't be barbers or whatever but it is Si territory imo. He has very routine things he does like gym, yoga, his diet, etc. This all seems very Si+Te to me.

Oh yeah, and he is obviously a very 'Polish' person. What I mean by that is he has a certain 'Polish allegiance' about him. He's active in his town and community and encouraging to fellow Polish people from Warsaw. He obviously feels comradery with his fellow townsfolk in a very ESTJ like way. He cares a whole lot about the state of affairs in Poland. Government or otherwise.
For good reference, I found some relevant links for further comparison:
ENFP Musicians (Video) - About the Type, Music Videos & List of Celebrities
ENTP Musicians (Video) - About the Type, Music Videos & List of Celebrities

Thank you for your thorough and insightful input, and I appreciate that you went into depth and great lengths to explain this well, especially on terminology that I wouldn't have otherwise strongly considered previously.

Yes, I think I actually do notice strong Type 3w4-like qualities in him, now that I have thought about this further, and based on what you've mentioned and further analyzing the media. Well, as for being an sx-dominant, do you think he is sp- or so-secondary, and how so? Otherwise, why do you think that he is sx-dominant (like sx/so > so/sx), rather than anything else?

It can be quite difficult to distinguish ENFPs and ENTPs at times, depending on Enneatypes, instinctual variants, anecdotes, and life experiences. For example, if I were to compare a Type 3 or 8 ENFP with a Type 1 or 6 ENTP, then together, they would resemble each other more than if both the ENFPs and ENTPs were either both Types 7 or 9.

Other than that, I still have some trouble really distinguishing between how Fi-Te and Ti-Fe manifests in Ne-dominant users, yet I'm not quite sure why. They do seem to operate in a similarly apparent fashion to me.

Well then, if Nergal really happens to display more Si than Se (as well as Fi rather than Ti), then together, my Si is something like 3-4x higher in my conscience than his.

Now that you're confirming my whereabouts further, I'll probably revise my stance on Nergal being a definite but rather atypical ENFP, rather than ENTP, ENTJ, or even ESTJ. :)

Although Nergal may not be the stereo-typically 'sensitive' textbook ENFP, I do believe his unconditional "support" and "heart" for his fellow countrymen is likely more attributed to his auxiliary-Fi, rather than inferior-Si.

Also, I bet if Nergal were to take all the free 'typology' tests online, I'm pretty sure he'd probably come out as ENTP and ENTJ (definitely "E" and "T") about equally, like more than 90% of the time.

I also vaguely speculate that the Type 3w4 ENFPs, and even ESFPs, have the highest potential to be mistyped as the "NT's" (primarily ENTJ's) more than any other temperament or type.

What do you think about all this?
 

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Everyone's going to get typed as INFJ by someone, or so it seems. Nergal seems clearly ENTx at least.
 
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Everyone's going to get typed as INFJ by someone, or so it seems. Nergal seems clearly ENTx at least.
What makes you think that Nergal is ENTx more than anything else? What do you think his dominant, auxiliary, tertiary, and/or inferior functions are, and how do they come to play? I think it's the most common assumption here. And I actually used to think of him as ENTP in the first place.

In a way, I do think that a certain characterized set of ENFPs can very well be easily mistaken for ENTx's more than any other type, especially if their tertiary (Te) and/or inferior function (Si) is highly developed at a younger age.
 

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He always seemed ENTPish to me. I can't really justify it with examples. I don't know him that well, mostly his public persona. He's not a sensor, he's an extrovert, he's not... "stupid", he lovvvves to provoke for sake of provoking itself, I don't think it has anything to do with his values. He's a big poseur too(I wouldn't take too seriously what he says). I think ENFP would strive more for authenticity and idealism.
 

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What makes you think that Nergal is ENTx more than anything else? What do you think his dominant, auxiliary, tertiary, and/or inferior functions are, and how do they come to play? I think it's the most common assumption here. And I actually used to think of him as ENTP in the first place.

In a way, I do think that a certain characterized set of ENFPs can very well be easily mistaken for ENTx's more than any other type, especially if their tertiary (Te) and/or inferior function (Si) is highly developed at a younger age.
In terms of functions I guess it'd be more between Ne and Te but not in the sense where it implies Fi or Si are taking precedence over either one of them. And the letters N and T fit him very well.
 
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Well, I'm curious to know; what is your reasoning behind why you think Nergal is an INFJ? How do the role of cognitive functions come into play?
Ni - obvious in his fascination with occultism. Also, has strong vision of different world where people aren't shackled neither by Catholic religion nor by materialism.

He's clearly interested into shepherding people towards freedom with his Fe. He even writes explanations for meaning of all his songs to make sure people understand what he means ^^ .

Everyone's going to get typed as INFJ by someone, or so it seems. Nergal seems clearly ENTx at least.
WTF? How can someone CLEARLY be EITHER a Te Ni Se Fi or Ne Ti Fe Si?
 

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WTF? How can someone CLEARLY be EITHER a Te Ni Se Fi or Ne Ti Fe Si?
I don't think he fits either Grant stack very well, but he's an extravert, intuitive, and thinker and I got this by looking at his personality (I've read about him, read interviews, and listened to a live show) rather than whether or not he's into the occult. There may be other people better qualified than I am to speak on the matter, and at the moment I don't have much in my memory bank.

If you think someone fits the letters E, N, and T, and the functions Ne and Te, what would you call them? Something other than ENTx? I fit the letters I, N, T, P, and the functions Ni and Ti, and I dunno what else you'd call me without implying I have letter traits that I don't have (S, F, or J).
 
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I don't think he fits either Grant stack very well, but he's an extravert, intuitive, and thinker and I got this by looking at his personality (I've read about him, read interviews, and listened to a live show) rather than whether or not he's into the occult. There may be other people better qualified than I am to speak on the matter, and at the moment I don't have much in my memory bank.

If you think someone fits the letters E, N, and T, and the functions Ne and Te, what would you call them? Something other than ENTx? I fit the letters I, N, T, P, and the functions Ni and Ti, and I dunno what else you'd call me without implying I have letter traits that I don't have (S, F, or J).
Okay, well, Ne and Te also apply to both ENFPs and ESTJs about equally, only in different order; only ENTJs use Ni, while ENTPs use Fe. Therefore, this leads to the assumption that Nergal is either an ENFP or ESTJ, NOT ENTP nor ENTJ. So then, I conclude that he is an ENFP, and whether you agree or disagree with me on this stance, please look at my previous posts.
 
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