Not sure if I explained this well. But 4s might think something very "typical" and "human" is significant - like love. Or appreciating music. You will notice that some 4 musicians are more "expressive of emotions" than "ground breaking." I heard a great description of 4s as an 'internal hall of mirrors.' It's more about having something significant enough to reflect on , rather than something unique based on some insignificant/baseless definition. The idea of a collective definition of what's "unique" is kind of insignificant in itself.Most 4s will relate to a desire for authenticity, but not to a desire to be unique. To call someone "unique" is to assess them against an external framework. To conceptualize "unique" or "common" requires agreeing on standards for what is acceptable, admirable, or expected. This implies being connected to the framework of others in the first place. Connectivity - which 4s feel they lack - is implicit in the concept of "uniqueness," so it is misleading to associate this with 4s, who feel more grounded in their own feelings. (This should not be glorified as some glamorous beacon of independence. More realistically, it is self-absorbed, and thus, isolating.) A 4s is unlikely to think in terms of "unique" or "common" ... she is more likely to categorize her traits and connections as "authentic" vs. "baseless." She is not driven to rebel or comply with some external system - but rather, to seek who she truly is, internally, and define herself by something significant.
This leads to a struggle with self-expression. It is embarrassing for a 4 to express the things about herself that are shameful, loathsome, weak and horrible, but if she does, then she can assure herself that she is authentic and her connections are meaningful. What makes her feel connected is expressing herself honestly, and feeling that someone else "gets it." Yet this is difficult, when there is so much shame about who she is.
Well, I figured the consideration would be no worse than the type 5 one, so \_(ツ)_/¯No, my type doesn't belong to the gut triad.
I have a strong connection to 5. I can't imagine myself as a 6w7 now. I've analysed my past and it shows a strong connection to 5. The isolation, the withdrawn, the minimizing needs with the outside world.. it's all 5 in the end. I just type as 6 because I tend to doubt about everything... even myself at times. But I am a much more aggressive version of 6 and, believe it or not, cynical. I was very cynical of humanity in my last year in college... I saw everybody as pigs, who would just live to have sex, and it was a very sensitive period of my life. I was also cynical in high school, with profound hate towards humans and people. All of that seems to point at 6w5.
I think this is more social first with Ni domResponding as I listen.
"Affect the world/ have impact in the world" - already sounds more "attachment type" than 5, so I am leaning 6 already..
TrueHmm.. "A position in the world." Definitely Social first..
Yeap, I've always known (after analyzing the enneagram in deep) that my core belongs to the head triad."To influence people with my mind, mind is everything" etc - head triad indicator
Guilty My initial typing was 4w5. Then I discovered that I deal essentially with feelings of anxiety, authority and independence."Eccentric and mad genius" I cant tell you how many sixes say this and also "To avoid being mainstream." This is why they mistype at 4. "I avoid being seen as shallow." all of this reminds me of this video.. by Amy Lee who is a 6...
I think imo that this is more 4 than 7. Not sure why."I want an extraordinary life" _ sounds like 7 influence.. although I guess a lot of people could say that
I'm a Fe user while you deal with Fi, that's the difference ahaha I hope to correspond to other people's expectations of me.You mention your deepest fear is being invaded, and then you mention a guy who talks to you on skype - but this gives you away as a six. First of all a person on skype is not an "invasion" because you can close skype or just turn it off. The reason its an invasion is not physical, they arent coming in through your door - so its an EMOTIONAL invasion.. someone invading you because for some reason you feel obligated to answer them...but that sense of obligation comes from YOU. To speak for myself, I don't feel obligated to answer my messages as soon as they come - I answer on my time. Thus they are not an invasion. If someone messages me constantly and annoys me I will eventually tell them so and end the contact or just withdraw and keep my distance.
Actually, I can relate to what you describe here. I just didn't express myself better.5 fear of invasion is combatted in a completely different way than you describe. they wall off their mind and influences so nobody can become part of their world. It's what is meant by avarice. They might be in the world but who they truly are is separate from the world. Nothing is part of "who they are" except the very few people or pursuits that they allow to be part of their sense of self. So that is a totally different thing than what you are describing for fear of invasion.
Oh thank you I really appreciate that."Shame" - I think your voice is splendid the way it is. And your accent. It's lovely.
Sorry, but I have to disagree here. 4s, in particular sexual 4s, are much more about turning their flaws into something desirable. That's why they are usually labeled as competitive and anger consuming. In the end, 4s want to be envied, imo."If I have shame I hide it or I become something more desirable" - sounds like 3 fix - specifically 3w4.
Yuckk my lest favorite tritype. Honestly, this tritype is just the average joe. I could see why you type me as 1w9 fix, as opposed to 1w2. But totally disagree with 3 fix. My 3-ness may come from strong connection to 3.my best guess 6w7 1w9 3w4 So/Sx
Yeah, I... can't think of how to argue for a 3-fix right now, but whatever the heart fix is, not seeing yourself as an average Joe is not the best reason to not consider certain types. Although a 4/4-fixer is probably the least likely to consider themselves that way, I think any of the heart types can balk at the idea for example.That said I disagree with the "Average Joe" part - no tritype or type makes someone average or different. thats some perc myth.
Exactly.. no 3w4 fixer especially would consider himself the average joe. Many 3's are all about .. their unique powerful image.Yeah, I... can't think of how to argue for a 3-fix right now, but whatever the heart fix is, not seeing yourself as an average Joe is not the best reason to not consider certain types. Although a 4/4-fixer is probably the least likely to consider themselves that way, I think any of the heart types can balk at the idea for example.
Do you sense 4w3 from my questionnaire?
Yes, 4w3 is the first thing I noticed in you. The first part of the video is very 4ish and I must confess I stopped it after a few minutes thinking I knew your type (4w3, 451 tritype), social instinct. Later I watched the rest of the video and I heard you talking about trust, your relationship to authority, etc. and I got confused then I read you were sure to be a head type, so, by now, I do not know. It requires more analysis.Do you sense 4w3 from my questionnaire?
I don't have a strong awareness of how people should watch me, but I do have a strong 4w3 fix
Like, for example, 4w3s have an extreme awareness of how others perceive them and how they project their image. I am not like that at all.
Right now I am more connected to 6 or with 1.Yes, 4w3 is the first thing I noticed in you. The first part of the video is very 4ish and I must confess I stopped it after a few minutes thinking I knew your type (4w3, 451 tritype), social instinct. Later I watched the rest of the video and I heard you talking about trust, your relationship to authority, etc. and I got confused then I read you were sure to be a head type, so, by now, I do not know. It requires more analysis.
Can I ask you what types feel the most alien to you? (you may have 0, 1, 2 or 3 enneatypes in this category)
EDIT: yes, 4s are self-conscious and if not, they are self-aware. So, basically, if you are not like that, 4 is not your core type.