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I apologize for the wrong title. It should "Wannabe Intuitors." How do I change it?

Anyway, I'm just curious: how do sensors who want to be intuitors differ in terms of behavior etc from those who are genuine intuitors? I asked because I have friends who are obviously thinkers but are trying hard to be feelers and the result isn't good. I guess you can't force something that isn't in harmony with your nature. :frustrating:
 

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Well, first we have to dissociate what "feeling" and "thinking" means in our colloquial language versus how they applied in personality theory. For example, the word "infant" in legal definitions and how normal people use it is different. Context matters y'all. A lot of people are like, "oh gosh, feelers are so troublesome to deal with because they are so emotional!" Wut. Just wut. Feeling is a judgment of value that assigns attributes almost qualitative/personal nature -- and in its own right, is a reasoning process in it of itself, whereas emotion is an experience that is almost metaphysical in nature?

Well, it is commonly stereotyped that Sensors aren't capable of abstract thinking -- and for some reason, this somehow translates to, gosh they don't think deeply at all/are so shallow zomg I'm so ~DEEP because I'm an iNtuitive!1!!! Again wut. Just wut. But to be honest -- and this my viewpoint -- if somebody appears incapable of "deeper" thought or perceiving things from multiple perspectives, it just makes me them lazy -- I don't like it how people write it off as "wow, this person's a sensor!". This is known as lack of empathy. We both have sensor and intuitive aspects within us, albeit some of us may lean towards a preference, some more heavily than others -- moreover, our cognitive functions work in tandem to make sure that we are balanced individuals.

What do you mean, "genuine" intuitors? Some people may have just "genuinely" mistyped themselves either due to denial or "genuinely" misunderstand of the theory -- and this is where I have to say that people will absorb/grasp the theory and understand it in their own unique way, because we are all unique individuals.

If you think you're an intuitive, then you're an intuitive. If you think you're a sensor, then you're a sensor. I believe that, our self-perceptions shape our beliefs, attitudes, etc where it gets to the point where we eventually manifest itself to become whatever "type" we understand ourselves to be, at least for the time. (In short: it's not a lie if you don't believe it to be a lie). There is really no way to intuit whether somebody is a "genuine" intuitive, because we don't have privy to their mental insights as they do -- just as they cannot access yours. (unless drift compatibility! lol)
 

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I don't know about wannabe intuitors or feelers. But my thought around the topic is that everyone have all the functions, only some are prefered, and they might come out more in the light depending on circumstance. Perhaps they are not trying to be something they are not, but wanting to develope that part of themselves? I also began to think about how people might perceive me, if talking face to face. I would not be surprised if quite many would guess I was istp then. What one communicate to others and what is going on inside is not necessarily the same thing. With people I don't know, if I am not very confident in the situation, I am more likely to talk about T-ish subjects, reasoning rather than feeling, and if I am nervous or trying to hide emotion I tend to try to calm myself with focusing on direct, concrete things, senses, practical stuff.
 

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and ESPs who believe themselves psychic.
I see what you did there.

Annnyway, this is your first post so I will be kind to you, but keep in mind that personalities are not all or nothing! Just because ETJs and ITPs have feeling as their least developed function, doesn't mean that they're heartless bastards. In fact my fiance is an INTP and he's one of the sweetest people I know. It just means that they are better at dealing with logic than they are at dealing with emotions, and in a given situation, they tend to choose the logical approach. But that doesn't make them psychopaths, just maybe out of touch with peoples' emotions from time to time...but if you develop your functions then you can get better at that. And that goes for all the other examples you listed too.
 

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I apologize for the wrong title. It should "Wannabe Intuitors." How do I change it?

Anyway, I'm just curious: how do sensors who want to be intuitors differ in terms of behavior etc from those who are genuine intuitors? I asked because I have friends who are obviously thinkers but are trying hard to be feelers and the result isn't good. I guess you can't force something that isn't in harmony with your nature. :frustrating:
Are you refering to dom or aux sensors or are you just mindlessly conflating both?
 

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Not sure how to change the title. I can see how it might be confusing, largely because Thinkers almost never want to be Feelers. I mean, if they did want to be a Feeler, they probably are one already.

But yeah, colloquially we often use "feel" not meaning "feel" in the Feeler sense (ie: personal value-judgements) but "feel" in the Jedi sense of the word, which really means "intuit". Most of the time in Star Wars, the "search your feelings" or "use your feelings" line refers to Intuition.

I think part of the problem with people over-typing as Ns is how the questions are worded. There is forged this idea that Intuitives are the "special snowflakes", the "misunderstood geniuses", the guys with flare and individuality and that all the great minds and leaders throughout time have been Intuitives because Sensors are all unoriginal, boring, mundane followers. It's of course none of it true. I mean first you have to remember these are preferences. Then that they each have their strengths and weaknesses and neither pole is inherently "good" or "bad". Then remember that the increasingly individualistic (and often narcissistic) Westerners, like many of us are, are often enamoured with the idea of being "special snowflakes" and thus must be Intuitives..

Speaking as someone who always scores as an N, and is a pretty clear-cut case of being one, I would kill to trade it for S sometimes. Seriously.
 

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I get migraines when I try to think too realistically. Seriously. It fucking hurts.
 

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I can relate to this by going back to 2nd semester of high school Algebra I

When things got tough and I was no longer able to understand the hard facts and directions given to me, I used my strong intuition to come up with an answer that I felt was correct. It felt satisfying enough [to me] that I came up with a final answer, just as long as I have "solved the problem" :kitteh:


In conclusion, I suck at math.
 

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I was a wannabe iNtuit back when I thought I was a Sensor. I am iNtuitive and always have been, but I'm still a wannabe. I want to be more creative, more groundbreaking, more insightful. It troubles me that my ideas will never change the world, that nothing is new under the sun. So I keep on trying.

I thought I was a Sensor because I use Ne from reality quite a bit. It doesn't seem to me like I go one step ahead at all, even though I always had to help everyone else catch up. Perhaps if someone is a wannabe intuitive, they already are one. They are thinking ahead.
 
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