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Seem like they could be quite similar, considering both two wing contradict each other.
Characterizing Eights as particularily angry is probably a mistake, in a sense. They are the most emotionally stable of all the types, but are low on Agreeableness. Nines are more stable than average, but less so than Eights. Higher than average on Agreeableness, though.I'm still a little confused telling them apart despite all my research (over my being 8w9 or 9w8 myself). I suppose that "way they carry themselves" is a good enough indicator, but not solid enough. Particularly the anger part is more confusing. The rest is pretty standard aggressive yet calm, but want peace and go about it in sorta reversed manners. The 8w9 "Bear" defends Territory and is defensive not offensive, and one would think the 9w8 does too. I sure do.
I don't identify with this at all. In fact, I identify quite a lot with your depiction of 8w9 'making peace with their anger'. It's always going to exist at various points in my life, so I might as well manage and release it productively, say to get moving on that list of bureaucratic chores I've been putting off.9w8 - angry about making peace.
I'm sorry if I appeared that way. If it means anything, I'm in a whimsical mood today.Be that as it may, there is a tinge of annoyance in your text, particularly from the outset, and that is what I was referring to.
No need to apologize, and I wouldn't disagree with anything you wrote. I have this habit of playing fast and loose with the English language, so you'll have to forgive me.I'm sorry if I appeared that way. If it means anything, I'm in a whimsical mood today.
It's always a positive thing I find to think about these things for one's self. As you have been.
If the style of 9 you have been keeping in mind is passive aggressive (and many are), I do see where you are coming from. But resentment and internalised anger -- festering -- is a feature of 1s, not 8s. So maybe you are thinking of 9w1s? Anger might be externalised later, but it is going to be bottled up for some time first. Then again, I don't know any other 9w8s in real life, so I can't say for sure the difference. All I know is unlike fellow 9s I have known, it's much more cathartic for me to deal with anger straightforwardly through proper communication. It's then easy to forget about. (The other 9 I am thinking of gets mildly angry at someone else then feels guilty about it, and it becomes a recurring seemingly minor issue, and the problem is unlikely to be addressed. So like you are describing.) I do sound much like an 8 here but I embody the 9ish indolent inertia quite strongly when unhealthy and much less the 8ish lust.
this is a great description. I personally think everyone uses both wings so the wing theory isn't that impactful for me. but I worked with a clear 8 (he actually leaned more toward 8w7) and this is a great description- when the mercy comes in.One way to think about it is a balancing between the type and wing. If the type takes me too far the wing may have to step in to bring back some balance in the situation. As an example:
9w8 - tendency to give in and go along until you feel like you're being taken taken advantage of and type 8 steps in to stand your ground.
8w9 - tendency to be assertive and aggressive until you feel like you've gone too far and step back into type 9 to smooth things over.
Very interesting and profound! Would you expand upon this?I hope this isn't too simplistic, it's actually couched in deep thought -
8w9 - making peace with their anger.
9w8 - angry about making peace.
a 9w8 says shit like this. a 9 dislikes head on conflict. In fact, they REALLY avoid it.I'm sorry if I appeared that way. If it means anything, I'm in a whimsical mood today.
It's always a positive thing I find to think about these things for one's self. As you have been.
I am a newcomer to this forum after all. I'm treading lighter than I should.a 9w8 says shit like this. a 9 dislikes head on conflict. In fact, they REALLY avoid it.
An 8 doesn't mind conflict. Just another day. the 9 wrote what I quoted. I'm an 8.
See the difference?