im asking all type, what do you think of us ISTJ's? I just find in some places we harbour bad reputations.
I've had two completely different experiances with ISTJ's. A female ISTJ I know is one of my best friends. She's the most loveable and adorable person I know. She can be very blunt and dazes out when I'm talking about something she's definetly not interested in, but other than that she's great.
Buy my (ENTP) boyfriends brother is an ISTJ. Now, the fact that he's a spoiled brat might have something to do with his nastiness but for the most part he's an arrogent, shallow, misogynistic, lazy, snobby, and all around thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. He's incredibly immature and thinks that all people that aren't on his intellectual level are stupid. He thinks cussing like a sailor makes him look mature and if he complains a lot it supposedly makes him look more adult. The best part is that he's not even that smart. Anyone can get good grades in school, but he has no common sense what so ever. Very close minded and hates to be proven wrong. He'll argue about something for hours because he's never wrong. If and when you prove him wrong he gets all quite and mumbles, "whatever..." like a child. He freaks out at the littlest things and has temper tantums often. Did I mention the fact that he's 17 years old?
For the record I don't think that all ISTJ's are that way, and some can be really funny but these have just been my experiances.
im a grandpa driver too! though i think no one has anyhting really good to say about me. i lose facebook friends by the day so i like to think there is a person or persons spreading bad info about me. but what do i care?Hello Mercer -
ISTJ in a relationship (my experience) -
You've probably seen me posting about the ISTJ I dated for about 9 months...I really liked him but our differences in approaches to things made the relationship very difficult...it was like I was always second guessing everything because I filtered things through how I thought my ex would process things and inevitably I was wrong...very confusing indeed.
What I really liked about him - he was considerate, even-tempered, punctual to a fault (and I mean this - one time I was going walking over to his place and I was running about 10 min late and he called me wondering where I was...we then made a 15 min later rule)...a generally nice great guy....his large social circle didn't have a negative thing to say about him...he does alot of trithlon and swimming coaching so knows alot of people....but very few people really know him...he has a very small, insular group of close friend who I didn't get to know that well (it was like he was guarding them from me!)....he was aloof...a nut that I tried to crack but couldn't...he always wanted to be in control...he was the slowest grandpa driver I ever saw...he marvelled at my ability to ride a motorcycle but he never went anywhere near it...
We debated for hours about things...he would always challenge my opinions and my leaps of intuition about things...I don't know how I make the connections and see the big picture..I just do..and he would always want to drag those leaps of intuition through his filter of logic...it kind of annoyed me and I would get defensive because he would challenge my assumptions but never share his thoughts and opinions about things...I asked him once why we had to debate everything - not just discuss things - and he said that was how he learned things. He was extremely skeptical about everything...he had to run any idea through his risk matrix and then generally discard it...he is extremely loyal to his employer and works insane hours (I think it's borderline abuse) He's a perfectionist in an imperfect world...
He was in his head so much that I literally had to run interference for him to snap out of it...he had a focus like I could not imagine...hours immersed in find a coding error...I marveled at that because my attention span with technology would have stopped at discovering the the evil error and then the laptop would have gone flying (figuratively)!
While we dated for 9 months, I've know him for 3 years and I feel that I don't really know him at all...it drove my curiosity crazy...the inigma of it! On another thread, I posted what food matched personality types and here is what I mentioned about ISTJs -
My experience with ISTJ's is that they are like lobsters - crusty crustaceans - an almost impenetrable shell which requires great effort to get in (and sometimes you never do) but once you are in, there is such delicate exquisite lobster meat that requires no flavouring because it's perfect just the way it is (sigh).
There you have it...I actually landed on this site because we had just called the whole thing quits and I was upset because I didn't understand our differences...we really liked each other but I think we liked the idea of each other and were just not compatible...I've learned alot about how other personality types react to things....about the differences in the I vs E energy and how our communications styles were very different too.
Mercer - maybe you need to develop more perception...ask some questions about other people...don't immediately judge things through your logic...there may be a million reasons why people are doing things or interacting in a certain way and if you don't probe and get more information, you will never know.
I think that FB has distorted the whole notion of what a friend is...no use using this as a gage for your real social interactions with people.
Save your time and your energy (and your emotional state).I don't know if I would get close to another, breaking the shell to the inner core might prove too much of a challenge and that is IF there is an inner core. I starting to doubt this, no offense.