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I don’t really care for that at conferences they mainly show scales of where your kid scores and the national average on a test. I would rather hear how my child does in the classes in overall package as far as participating, presentation, homework, class room discussion, and classroom tests. It pretty boring just to see state and national test averages and scales. I mean my kids are always ok on these tests but it’s pretty boring to look at a dot on a graph as a conference feedback on my child from their teacher.
 

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I'm neutral in regard to standardize test, but I do see an issue with them. As some already said, it doesn't really evaluate one's abilities properly, just how you properly take the tests. And I always found this weird (and I may be projecting), why are most of the important tests (SAT/ACT, etc) at such a young age? I mean, most have not even developed or even found their interests or talents at that age and such tests are a significant determinant in deciding where we can go.
 

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I can see how it's kind of a best fit method of measuring how well the student is doing in school, but don't find the results of it to be that meaningful. You can memorize the entire course material and score A on the test, but that doesn't necessarily mean you understand what was memorized. Also, some subjects are really pointless and decreases motivation to learn it (this is highly subjective to the interests of the individual). If a child knows they want to be an accountant one day, why do they need to learn advance calculus? When would they ever need that? When the calculators all self destruct on a whim?

You can argue that everybody needs to be educated and tested in certain courses, but then, why not educated in courses that the average adult living in your country will need once they step out into the real world? I know some schools offer courses such as taking out a loan or mortgage, but it's not as common as it should be.

I'm aware that it's not realistic to create a mass educational system that can cater to different groups of young children based on their interests/strengths, but at the same time, I find a lot of the courses they're forced to take to be pretty pointless later on in life.
 

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I see the value in a test that can compare the results of students nationwide. If there are specific things a child should have learned by a grade level then it would make sense that there is a way to assess the quality of the teacher's ability to teach them what they need to know by the time the class is over.

However, I think that schools end up taking it a bit overboard and making teachers "teach to the test" all year long. Standardized testing should be in the back of there heads and should serve more as a reminder of what they need to make sure kids know. Drilling through test prep material all year surely isn't teaching. It's forcing people to memorize material that isn't serving them any use past the day they take that test.
 

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Means nothing when they give you time to study it, surprise or pop quizzes and tests give a better way of showing if they actually know the material
 

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I think social and emotional well-being should be the first and foremost focus in education, because I believe that children who are socially and emotionally well adjusted will go forward with natural curiosity and information absorption. There is a very short window, for kids to develop healthy/optimal thinking, feeling and behavioral patterns (not to say this cant be changed later, neuroplasticity is real, but it's much harder to re-wire once specific patterns are set, and all experiences are being taken in via those patterns.)

I don't think it really matters if a kid learns cursive or division or certain histories, when they are 8 or 18 or 28.. tbh... there is a lot of shit taught in schools that will have no real relevancy for what our future holds. But if they can be taught how to feel healthy, secure, to introspect.. taught how to relate well with others, to see ourselves as a working together, rather than competing, it'll set the frame-work for all other information or schools of thought to be better absorbed and, utilized.

The benefits of meditation/mindfulness practices are so massive and indisputable, in their ability to reduce anxiety, depression.. increase brain matter, help emotional regulation, balance hormones and brain-chemicals.. it's an absolute shame that our current educational system isn't putting almost any emphasis here. Not to mention that it requires very little resources (oh, now that's a little telling isn't it?).

Standardized testing is complete BS.
 

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My first reaction is, standardized testing is awful, but my real opinions are more similar to:

Strelnikov said:
Standardised testing also provides an objective, non-discriminatory measurement of whether or not a person meets certain minimum standards of knowledge and competence.

Now, is standardised testing done correctly? Most of the time: no. I think standard tests should cover the general basics, not higher more specialised aspects. Also, grading can be a problem. I think, as a general rule, standardised testing should have pass/fail grading system or at least fewer grades. Even if you have more grades, their importance is limited and the weight assigned to them should be lowered to prevent teachers from teaching the test only.
This as well:

ultracrepidarian said:
But if they can be taught how to feel healthy, secure, to introspect.. taught how to relate well with others, to see ourselves as a working together, rather than competing, it'll set the frame-work for all other information or schools of thought to be better absorbed and, utilized.
Standardized testing isn't unreasonable but it's done poorly. Arguably the educational system in the US is done poorly. We need a lot more focus on how to live well rather than what to know. But it's a lot easier to get people to agree on the facts that should be known rather than the philosophies that should inform a well-rounded life.
 

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I think they want too much from children who are too much young for care about career. Where I came from it doesn’t matter if you had good grades at hight school or not, nobody care. Every University have their own test, if you make it, then it doesn’t matter your grades from high school. I really didn’t care about future when I was 16 or 18.. but University is new start, new life, you can go in best university in my country with E-grades, just survive, University will test you during your study.
 

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Like the title says, I'm wondering what you peeps think of this concept. Imo, I think it's a shitty idea because you can't evaluate a students entire level of education and career potential with one test. Imo, the test is designed to homogenize society and turn peeps into robots. It's also bad for teachers cause forces them to teach to the test and can put their careers in jeopardy.
Great tool to teach students to min-max everything and only do what's rewarding. Hell of a worldview and value system to teach the young.
 

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Too much focus put on them. I've seen many a successful people who just don't test well on things like this. Yet, I still think they are useful, just to a smaller degree.
 

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It's turds. Rote learning and testing on rote learning is awful.
 

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I think its a good blanket way to maybe diagnose learning disorders or mental health issues.

Let me explain. Its the discrepancy between a test score and a persons performance that I am talking about here. There are plenty of people who do poorly on tests, but because they are mentally healthy, they perform at or above where a test would suggest they otherwise might.

Then there are the people who perform very well on tests, who do very poorly in school in general. Thats where I think standardized tests are important. They are important in identifying that- hey, there is a problem here, and allowing professionals to see who needs help with what.

IQ tests were first created to detect learning disorders, and it was only over time that they became a tool for “elitists” to brag about.

They should be used, like Iq tests, as a tool to help, and not to infate egos. That is my opinion
 

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As a teacher, I'm really not in favour of standardised testing.

I think it severely limits students who think outside of the box, and these students would probably be equally (or more) able of succeeding in life, if only they wouldn't have to deal with feeling like a failure for a good part of their early adulthood.

Honestly, it took me years to realise I was in fact not an idiot. It was so ingrained in me that I decided against pursuing STEM subjects at Uni, or going for analytical roles, until much later in life.
 

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I think standardized testing is out of control.
It's inflicted too often, and promotes a fear-based approach to teaching and learning.
Kids are scared they won't pass and try to memorize shit without understanding it.
Teachers are scared they'll be punished if their students don't "perform", so they teach to the test and cut out all the interesting tangents and playful ideas and just hone in on "the curriculum".
Plus, it's a waste of days that could be used to learn other things. It's not like there aren't plenty of other tests throughout school. I don't think you could truly standardize learning levels across a nation even with the most dedicated attempts. There are just too many interest, skill, and life factors that affect childrens' learning for it to be "evenly scaled" that way.
 

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It is the same as survives the most powerful. There are people that don't like to be controlled, but the system wants to control them, and their people that are acting like ships, they follow orders and do nothing. It is the life and you can't change it.
 

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standardized testing is the devil... seriously

we are taking our greatest asset... children... and putting them in a box in our attempt to make life "fair"

Karma is fair... we and life are not and that's something many still have trouble swallowing... GET THE FUCK OVER IT

By standardizing education we are basically throwing away the God-given gifts each of our unique children have to offer... it's one of the most disgusting and ultimately catastrophically tragic facets of modern society.

THE END
 
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