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Excluding food and shelter what would you need to consider yourself as having an easy life? What do you think you need to have an easy life that you don't already have? What do up already have that you consider and easy life?

I am wondering if there will be a pattern within the same personality types.
 

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Sorry, but after having spent a year in Iraq, I will have to say that an easy life is one where you have a spectrum of food to choose from at any time of the day, running water of various temperatures, the ability to control the climate inside your home and basic sanitation.

Other than that, I'd say an easy life is one of freedom, where you make whatever choices you wish, slave to no other demands.
 

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Iraq was that bad? I have heard stories but was not sure what was true and what was not true. Tell us about your experence in Iraq.
 

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Iraq was that bad? I have heard stories but was not sure what was true and what was not true. Tell us about your experence in Iraq.
This is waaaay of topic, but I'll oblige. I should also note, by own experiences are disgustingly petty when compared to the people of the world who have serious problems. Also, I got into Iraq 3 weeks into the invasion, so there wasn't any un-bidded, cost-plus mercenary contractors over there to deliver the amenities of home at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer.


"an easy life is one where you have a spectrum of food to choose from at any time of the day,"

Ever eat nothing but MREs and t-rats for a few months? Not fun. I get both nostalgic and nauseous when I think about it. After the PX opened, we'd eat these little tuna salad and cracker boxes. They would replace many a meal. Sure beats MREs. "Cigarettes and Diet Coke" were the joke diet of our squad.

"running water of various temperatures,"

Our water supply consisted of pallets of 1.5 liter water bottles from various regions of the middle east. They sat under a tarp in the sun. I once told a med student friend of mine how much water we drank each day and he told me that was impossible. Turns out if you didn't chug it, you'd die just sipping on it from dehydration. Ever guzzle a liter and a half of scalding water? Loads of fun. Later, we would buy ice from a family in Nassiriya, but it was non-potable. We coupled this with a freezer chest we found in town so we could cool our bottles down. This happened a few months after we were in country, just so we could get our fill of scalding water. So, for the first few months, you had your choice between hot and really hot water to drink during the day.

This also includes "the five gallon challenge." We built our own shower point. What you'd do is leave a five gallon water jug out in the sun all day and then take it into the little shack with your soap and what not. What happened next was up to you. Lots of fun.

"the ability to control the climate inside your home"

The first summer we didn't have any air conditioning, so we'd just hide in the shade. Our dark olive drab three-man tents got rather hot during the day. I had a spring-loaded candle lantern in my tent. One day after a mission on a rather hot day, I found that the wax had melted and squirted out of the hole up into the glass part of the lantern. It wasn't so much fun trying to sleep in there at night as it tended to keep in heat. We later put up GP-mediums for each squad, which was a great relief.

Later that fall we lived in glorified cow barns outside of Camp Anaconda at a place called Ashraf. Our neighbors were the PMOI. They are, without question, a political oddity. There were mice everywhere and with them came asps. I was a mouse stomping fool, just so I could eliminate the asp food. I later found an asp that was stuck in the make-shift ply-wood window I had built. Thank goodness for the duct tape "weather sealant" I had used, or that guy may have ended doing some serious damage. Also, the roof leaked like a sieve. I remember one day I had KP in the morning followed by an escort mission into Baghdad. There I broke the front end of my HMMWV and had to get it fixed when we got back. After being up for 20 hours, it had begun to rain and I sat in my room monitoring all of the buckets placed all over to prevent flooding while, get this, reading an article in Scientific American about sleep. The irony kept me going until the rain abated.

"and basic sanitation."

Ever have to burn a bucket of shit? It's a lot of fun. The secret is getting your mo-gas and diesel mix just right. Too much mo-gas and you lose your eye brows. Too much diesel and it won't light. With everyone eating MREs, it smelled just like a giant burning vat of MREs. How's that for gross? Most military doctors are also pretty clueless, so trying to get help when you're sick or broken was rather futile.

That's enough war stories for today. If anyone wants any more, start another thread. I find it therapeutic to ramble about such things.
 

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This is waaaay of topic, but I'll oblige. I should also note, by own experiences are disgustingly petty when compared to the people of the world who have serious problems. Also, I got into Iraq 3 weeks into the invasion, so there wasn't any un-bidded, cost-plus mercenary contractors over there to deliver the amenities of home at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer...
EmotionallyTonedGeometry - Thank you for sharing your experiences; I wanted to add that I like your Sig. No one's life is 'easy' at this point, in the Era. There is strife everywhere, sometimes seen, and unseen (mental health instability). I don't really concern myself to keep track of whose life is easier, and whose isn't because each person has to walk their path. But sometimes, I can fall into 'the grass is greener' type of thinking.

Blue Butterfly - This is a good topic - Ease? Depends on a persons goals, and how much obstruction they have in achieving their goals. Also it depends on their own personal philosophies. There are some thoughts I have further about this, related to Law of Karma, Destiny etc, which I won't share. But certainly there are persons who have it easier to a degree. I mean more attractive people, experience less obstruction in most situations in life I'm sure. Someone who wins a lottery (I know someone that has won a lottery). We all know those types of people that experience everything 'falling into place' when they need it. My sister is like that, she makes one desire in her mind, and something happens that assists her.

So there are many different circumstances. People are funny like that, I guess it is Ego, but people often share the 'grueling' details of how they were able to do this and that, and rarely ever share, all of the persons who assisted them in their process. For me an 'easy' life would be one with less financial difficulties, and less obstructions to reaching final goals. But this is a difficult question to answer. Because I think all things happen for a reason. I hope I have said something in the right direction.

I don't know what an easy life would be? I think I've had it pretty good, relatively. But I wouldn't mind more ease in most areas. But I have to walk my own path, and learn my own lessons, like everyone else. All of the stuff that EmotionallyTonedGeometry writes about reminds me how good we have things in North America. I should be in better perspective most of the time.
 

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This is waaaay of topic, but I'll oblige. I should also note, by own experiences are disgustingly petty when compared to the people of the world who have serious problems. Also, I got into Iraq 3 weeks into the invasion, so there wasn't any un-bidded, cost-plus mercenary contractors over there to deliver the amenities of home at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer.


"an easy life is one where you have a spectrum of food to choose from at any time of the day,"

Ever eat nothing but MREs and t-rats for a few months? Not fun. I get both nostalgic and nauseous when I think about it. After the PX opened, we'd eat these little tuna salad and cracker boxes. They would replace many a meal. Sure beats MREs. "Cigarettes and Diet Coke" were the joke diet of our squad.

"running water of various temperatures,"

Our water supply consisted of pallets of 1.5 liter water bottles from various regions of the middle east. They sat under a tarp in the sun. I once told a med student friend of mine how much water we drank each day and he told me that was impossible. Turns out if you didn't chug it, you'd die just sipping on it from dehydration. Ever guzzle a liter and a half of scalding water? Loads of fun. Later, we would buy ice from a family in Nassiriya, but it was non-potable. We coupled this with a freezer chest we found in town so we could cool our bottles down. This happened a few months after we were in country, just so we could get our fill of scalding water. So, for the first few months, you had your choice between hot and really hot water to drink during the day.

This also includes "the five gallon challenge." We built our own shower point. What you'd do is leave a five gallon water jug out in the sun all day and then take it into the little shack with your soap and what not. What happened next was up to you. Lots of fun.

"the ability to control the climate inside your home"

The first summer we didn't have any air conditioning, so we'd just hide in the shade. Our dark olive drab three-man tents got rather hot during the day. I had a spring-loaded candle lantern in my tent. One day after a mission on a rather hot day, I found that the wax had melted and squirted out of the hole up into the glass part of the lantern. It wasn't so much fun trying to sleep in there at night as it tended to keep in heat. We later put up GP-mediums for each squad, which was a great relief.

Later that fall we lived in glorified cow barns outside of Camp Anaconda at a place called Ashraf. Our neighbors were the PMOI. They are, without question, a political oddity. There were mice everywhere and with them came asps. I was a mouse stomping fool, just so I could eliminate the asp food. I later found an asp that was stuck in the make-shift ply-wood window I had built. Thank goodness for the duct tape "weather sealant" I had used, or that guy may have ended doing some serious damage. Also, the roof leaked like a sieve. I remember one day I had KP in the morning followed by an escort mission into Baghdad. There I broke the front end of my HMMWV and had to get it fixed when we got back. After being up for 20 hours, it had begun to rain and I sat in my room monitoring all of the buckets placed all over to prevent flooding while, get this, reading an article in Scientific American about sleep. The irony kept me going until the rain abated.

"and basic sanitation."

Ever have to burn a bucket of shit? It's a lot of fun. The secret is getting your mo-gas and diesel mix just right. Too much mo-gas and you lose your eye brows. Too much diesel and it won't light. With everyone eating MREs, it smelled just like a giant burning vat of MREs. How's that for gross? Most military doctors are also pretty clueless, so trying to get help when you're sick or broken was rather futile.

That's enough war stories for today. If anyone wants any more, start another thread. I find it therapeutic to ramble about such things.

This was right on topic for what I am researching. You showed us what an easy life is by showing us what a hard life was like. I am thankful for guys like you that can go through that kind of thing and come out alive. The asp alone was bad enough but to have to go through everything else was just bad. And feel free to use this thread for therapy. PTSD needs to be healed and if it heals you I am here with a listening ear anytime you want to vent. Thank you for sharing.
 

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Excluding food and shelter what would you need to consider yourself as having an easy life? What do you think you need to have an easy life that you don't already have? What do up already have that you consider and easy life?

I am wondering if there will be a pattern within the same personality types.

Hmmm.... personally an easy life would be a life where I accomplished...
It could be my type 3-ness, but I always feel like when I have achieved something, it is just another achievement to cross off on the list and it was rather easy...

I find that no matter how hard it was I feel, when I have completed it, I could've possibly tried harder...
It's weird. I am not sure what I would feel if I went in a war etc. and have that same mentality...
BUT the fact is, I feel like at this point in time, my life is a movie. It FEELS easy...

So I guess for me an easy life is where I can achieve my ambitions (even if it takes up a life time), because naturally once it's done I am one to say, "that was a tough time in my life, but not tough enough..." type thing. This is all in hindsight of course because when you are stuck with a troubling / difficult situation, you're not sure how it will work out etc...

But I mean, even though I consider my life right now to be easy, I have my worries and my insecurities and hardships, but at this point in time I feel like it's a movie.
A (typical) movie with a usual beginning, a twist, a climax, a solution, a somewhat happy ending...
[and then sequels / trilogies to mark the different chapters in my life etc.] :crazy:

I am not saying my life IS easy, but in hindsight I always feel like if I am not dead, then it wasn't hard enough.

This is just my thoughts on life etc. because of my experiences.
Because when it comes down to it, some people can't contemplate how I coped with certain events in my life, but some think I have it easy. So blah. :laughing:
 

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No medical problems and being financially secure. If I had that then I'd be the happiest little chipmunk you did ever see.
mmmmmmmmmhhmmmmm....

 

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Guaranteed food, water, and shelter is a big part of having an easy life because unfortunately in today's world it seems money = freedom. Though another essential that money can't account for would be finding a passion that makes your life enjoyable or having people in your life that truly care for and understand you.

For me personally as an idealistic NF who is too concerned with the poor state of the world today, regaining some kind of childlike blissful ignorance would also make life much easier. Or maybe a short coma just for a break.
 

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I would say I am blessed with an easier life, because I can disregard food/shelter, which even though you said disregard, I cannot. So disregarding that, an easy life is a mediocre one, one made with no sacrifice or many decisions or very few hard ones, one that does not test your abilities. Its relative like that. I am living a harder life, once we take out that I have the basics, but I'm also leveraging all my resources as well, and pushing for more tools to make it easier. Which I don't think discounts the hardships of my journey. I do have slight few physical ailments, but all of them are slowly improving, and I've learned to cope.
 

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A medium-sized suburban - or fairly large rural - home with three dogs and a few other animals; a wife, three kids, and a terrific career as a horror novelist.
 

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No medical problems and being financially secure. If I had that then I'd be the happiest little chipmunk you did ever see.
mmmmmmmmmhhmmmmm....

I miss you & your cute posts and pics.

An easy life? I am a Master at it's creation, believe you me. No stress, no violence, no work, no pain, no worry, nothing but......................bliss. I believe I have just about achieved nirvana on Earth.
 

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I miss you & your cute posts and pics.

An easy life? I am a Master at it's creation, believe you me. No stress, no violence, no work, no pain, no worry, nothing but......................bliss. I believe I have just about achieved nirvana on Earth.
Might I ask HOW????? :mellow:
 

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i've got it pretty easy i guess,i have a decent home and good family. the only thing i want now is to share love.
 
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