What do you hate about your MBTI type?

From my personal experience, here are things I have noticed:

I get obsessed with problems I have and have trouble just forgetting for a while and enjoying something.

I've been told on multiple occasions I'm too serious. I naturally take everything seriously and need to make effort to be more playful or careless.

I am bad at social interactions. Sometimes I have difficulty keeping a conversation and have no idea how to make people enjoy interacting with me. I cannot read people at all.

ENTP

We are not all that intelligent. To me, intelligence is relative.
Intelligence = the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.

Unless speaking on the Intelligence Quotient. Of which there are
designed questions with correct/incorrect answers. That to me
measures a persons ability to conform to the test criteria and
underlying principals.

I personally believe I am fairly mediocre yet I am told I am
intelligent. Seems wrong some how.

I will take being smart over intelligent any day.

I actually love my type's descriptions; they're extremely flattering. What I hate is how I unrealistic they are. We get told we're psychic unicorns who can read people really well and predict the future. I can read people ok but I'm not psychic. My ability to predict the future is okay but nothing EXTRAORDINARY and nobody listens me anyway.

Basically, I feel like INFJs don't have that much to offer and all the things about us that do impress other people are myths.

I hate being an Ni-dom. But particularly being an Se inferior. It feels like having inferior Se is such a cripple in life; it makes life so much harder. I can plan all I want, but actually doing things and getting into action is such a pain. I hate starting new things, and tend to think that everything has this long complicated process you have to go through before you can get into it. This type of thinking encourages me to put things off constantly. Even though I have somewhat gotten over this mentality, I'm still affected by it.

Daiz said:

I actually love my type's descriptions; they're extremely flattering. What I hate is how I unrealistic they are. We get told we're psychic unicorns who can read people really well and predict the future. I can read people ok but I'm not psychic. My ability to predict the future is okay but nothing EXTRAORDINARY and nobody listens me anyway.

Basically, I feel like INFJs don't have that much to offer and all the things about us that do impress other people are myths.

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Haha this is funny, I feel this same way with my Ni and MBTI type. But of course, its for more logical things and outcomes and the general thing about us being 'masterminds' that is over hyped. I do feel like it is a somewhat misleading stereotype. Being INTJ doesn't mean you are a mastermind. And you're right; it may appear psychic to those that do not use the Ni process, but it really isn't.

I get uninspired and bored very easily. I will constantly try to find something interesting to get me motivated and full of life again, but a lot of times, it doesn't work. Love is the strongest drug, but that doesn't happen very much either. So, I have to see myself becoming dry, reserved again, which is quite sad.

SnowShrew said:

Haha this is funny, I feel this same way with my Ni and MBTI type. But of course, its for more logical things and outcomes and the general thing about us being 'masterminds' that is over hyped. I do feel like it is a somewhat misleading stereotype. Being INTJ doesn't mean you are a mastermind. And you're right; it may appear psychic to those that do not use the Ni process, but it really isn't.

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I feel like when INTJs are smart and competent, they're REALLY smart and competent, and that's how you get that stereotype. The most impressive person in my life was INTJ and I kinda compare all other INTJs I meet to him.

SnowShrew said:

I hate being an Ni-dom. But particularly being an Se inferior. It feels like having inferior Se is such a cripple in life; it makes life so much harder. I can plan all I want, but actually doing things and getting into action is such a pain. I hate starting new things, and tend to think that everything has this long complicated process you have to go through before you can get into it. This type of thinking encourages me to put things off constantly. Even though I have somewhat gotten over this mentality, I'm still affected by it.

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I'm kinda like this but also the opposite because I first expect everything to be super easy! I underestimate the difficulty of every task then freak out and give up as soon as I hit any kind of obstacle. Then I pick myself up and do it all again, moving onto the next step and underestimating the difficulty of THAT too. I reach my goal eventually but it takes way longer than expected and there's usually been so much disappointment along the way, the whole thing just feels more like a series of small failures than a success.

EDIT: It's basically like this:

FueledByEvil said:

ENTP

We are not all that intelligent. To me, intelligence is relative.
Intelligence = the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.

Unless speaking on the Intelligence Quotient. Of which there are
designed questions with correct/incorrect answers. That to me
measures a persons ability to conform to the test criteria and
underlying principals.

I personally believe I am fairly mediocre yet I am told I am
intelligent. Seems wrong some how.

I will take being smart over intelligent any day.

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True intellligence is the ability to figure something new out, understand and make use of, easily without knowing jack shit about it before hand, on the spot.
ENTPs excel at that.

Actual definitions:
Smart - quick witted intelligence
vs
Intelligence - abiliity to acquire and apply knowledge skills.

Intelligence, Intellectual is a bullshit construct.
No one doubts associative thinkers are smarter than the fuckers who cram lists and countless words in their head.
If I told you I found a post years ago where a bunch of snobby University Level English learners were bragging about their elite troll skills cause they learned the words to describe different parts and uses of language which is used in such an area... you'd get what i'm saying.


Quit the modesty, you're making me sick xD

A few things about the INFJ type:

- Getting tunnel-vision and not seeing different sides of something anymore when I'm zooming in on a particular idea or thing
- Not getting anything done and just being stuck inside my own head
- Having trouble setting concrete goals
- Never knowing how I feel unless I'm talking it out to someone.

84Djoke said:

True intellligence is the ability to figure something new out, understand and make use of, easily without knowing jack shit about it before hand, on the spot.
ENTPs excel at that.

Actual definitions:
Smart - quick witted intelligence
vs
Intelligence - abiliity to acquire and apply knowledge skills.

Intelligence, Intellectual is a bullshit construct.
No one doubts associative thinkers are smarter than the fuckers who cram lists and countless words in their head.
If I told you I found a post years ago where a bunch of snobby University Level English learners were bragging about their elite troll skills cause they learned the words to describe different parts and uses of language which is used in such an area... you'd get what i'm saying.


Quit the modesty, you're making me sick xD

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Modesty, surely not an ENTP trait. I wonder where I
picked it up from? Honestly, at this point in my life
I recognize and prefer emotional intelligence. The depths
of which I may never truly understand as intuitively as feelers
yet I will not stop trying.

What I hate about being an ISFP is the sensitivity.

Not the sensitivity itself, but the fact that we're living in a society where we care natural as human beings and react emotionally on a primal level when we see others suffering and want to help and console and stop them from hurting (babies do it automatically), but society has trained us all to believe that we should just empathise and not try to help the person solve a problem they are having, no matter that if we know we can help, because apparently it's rude. Just say aww me to and let the problem go on, affecting them, affecting others.

I now get it why my INFJ who left Christianity, ended up in determinism, free will don't exist and basically our thing as humans is to suffer.

Being open minded, even though intuitively I knew that her perception would lead her down a dark path and I needed to interject asap, I wanted to understand, I tried to entertain the idea, full on trying on... I dont have the words to describe, only that if I continued longer than those 60 seconds, I would literally lose my mind, total fucking vegetable.


So sensitivity and passivity is what I aint fond of in ISFP.

I hate how being an INTJ is "cool", and how that "coolness" leads other people to not understand the inherent difficulties of being an INTJ in the world. That I operate in a way that is radically different from most people forces me to take extra care to avoid trouble and the negative attention and consequences that come therewith, because the potential for misunderstanding is particularly great. People I know IRL who are interested in MBTI seem, if anything, less interested in trying to bridge this gap.

There are so many aspects of the INTJ stereotype that run contrary to my own experiences. Confidence being one of them. Pop culture portrays us like this.



When a lot of us are actually more like this (at least I am).



In reality, most of us don't really have an answer for every problem and most people don't listen us even when we do. Can't tell you how often co-workers call me things like "airhead," "space case," or "ditz" even when I'm able to propose a solution to a problem that would actually work. And even when it does, someone else takes credit for it.

Daiz said:

We get told we're psychic unicorns who can read people really well and predict the future. I can read people ok but I'm not psychic. My ability to predict the future is okay but nothing EXTRAORDINARY and nobody listens me anyway.

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Not psychic. It's different. More akin to artistic imagination. Without imagination, we Ni types would be like all those other poor...dullards. Yes, I'm paraphrasing Hannibal Lecter as per Red Dragon. I don't really think of others as "dullards." And if they are, I try to make them smile anyway. I love making people smile and laugh which is totally contrary to the INTJ stereotype.
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I feel like INFJs don't have that much to offer

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Don't feel that way.

all the things about us that do impress other people are myths.

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Don't feel that way either.

84Djoke said:

What I hate about being an ISFP is the sensitivity.

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I've always admired that trait in others.

society has trained us all to believe that we should just empathize and not try to help the person solve a problem they are having, no matter that if we know we can help, because apparently it's rude. Just say aww me too and let the problem go on, affecting them, affecting others.

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There is value in empathy itself, and sometimes what a person really needs is an ear to listen or a shoulder to lean on, but other times, taking action to fix a problem is exactly what's needed.

NO! Must...not...quote...song lyrics!

I either over-think or under-think things. Like, some things seem so simple and easy at first I don't take them seriously and then I realise I haven't been giving them the attention they need/deserve, yet with other things I spend far too long or far too much energy on them than they're worth. Probably nothing to do with being an NT though.

Judson Joist said:

I've always admired that trait in others.

There is value in empathy itself, and sometimes what a person really needs is an ear to listen or a shoulder to lean on, but other times, taking action to fix a problem is exactly what's needed.

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Absolutely, and it took me quite some time to get that due to my past.

Maybe I just have half the World's back log of problems in my head/memory, I had been banging my head against the wall for many years, understanding things which aren't in general education or awareness and being pretty damn good at problem solving. It is only recently that I awakened. from my ice chamber.

So many things are ignored though in the World and they shouldn't be. I could talk about relationships, education, religion, race, sexuality, produce and a few others.

My point of view is pretty unique I think, given my background and I don't see all these as individual things to be changed, butas part of the big picture, of society as a whole. Changing/improving one area of life, isn't guaranteed to have that big of an impact if many others still are problematic. This is why I think education is important. Guess I got too focused on the wrong order.

People need to understand something when it's so foreign to them especially when it's a global norm.
Although, now I say that, I think I may have been looking at this backwards, hmm, interesting. Empathise then teach.

Wow, how the fuck did I miss that. Oh wait I know, my crippling level of awareness and fear of manipulation. + being so focused on being real.

Honestly Judson, a problem is a problem to me and it kinda pisses me off that people say, oh you don't understand what I've been through, the pain, the this, that. I just wanna stop them and say, we all know what pain is like! People become their problems, this is especially prolific in the mental health communities and it's so... ugh.

Anyway, i've gone on it a bit of a tangent. Gonna have to have a think.

Thank you Judson.

Gloria Estefan "Get On Your Feet".

Yeah, I definetly do realise the value of empathy now. Sadly I used to steam roll peoples feelings in the past, being oblivious to, so focused and trained on analysis and efficiency and planning and all that stuff.

You gotta ask yourself though.... how long has the World been empathising for?
and what is the average common knowledge level in the World?

We're living in the past, before we had all this understanding and information. I think it's time to reset the bar, the starting point, for everyone. Current parenting is one of the most destructive ones that is commonly used. The punishment reward model, fuck no, that is so bad (I won't go into now), the time outs, people don't realise how much this fucks up kids and thus adults. There'd so much more.

I could tell you right now why divorce rates so high.


We're supposed to be a species of great potential, but all I see is wasted potential and a cycle of pain through the generations, and shit is getting worse. The shit is compounding. We're totally fucked then.