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Well, my dad is a ESTJ, and we can't seem to get along at all. However, I get along with my ESTJ mom almost perfectly, and I can't seem to reach a resolution with my dad, since he wants results quickly, and doesn't see other point of views.

Insights, advice, help please?
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Geez, not much action on this thread, my friend. I hope an ESTJ picks this up eventually...
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I've met a few INFPs and I was friends with one. My personal experience with a lot of them ended up in a conflict or a disagreement.

and with your situation, it would be best if you let him know straight out of he isn't aware of. For example, when he fails to see other people's point of views, make an attempt and try to make him understand what he doesn't understand in a way that he would understand. In other words, communicate with him in a level that you two are on the same page by logically explaining it and not focused on how you feel, because this would create a lot of complications and misunderstandings. I've been through a similar situation and it was difficult for me but I ended up learning how to cope with a situation like this.
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Thank you all so much for responding!
I do tell him, but usually he becomes very defensive, and will often threaten to kick me out/etc unless I shut up and listen to him, because he is always right. However, when I ask for logic, he will usually act rather...ferocious. Lol. He'll accuse me of being too stupid to listen to him, and that it's my fault, since I am much younger than him. However, it sometimes ends with a lighter, sweeter note, especially when other adults whom my dad may or may not respect (I honestly can't tell, he doesn't viciously give them a good telling-off, but he will often talk about them behind their backs) are there, and they either diffuse the quarrel or agree with me, which will usually calm my dad down...until he remembers again and starts to pick another fight.
What's worse is, he deems anyone who does not agree with him unworthy of any respect...unless you're at least 66+ years old, is Asian, or partly Asian, and is proven successful by monetary and social standards.

Sorry, this is becoming a rant. >.< However, it would be nice to receive any sort of feedback!
What makes it difficult is that he has the "I am right" mentality and since he's older you, he feels like he has the authority over you and you should listen to what he says, which makes the situation much more difficult to handle. Would it be much better if you told your mom about this? and so the two of you could also communicate and tell your mom how you feel through logically explaining to your mom what the problem is and what bothers you about your dad and maybe your dad would listen. Do you think maybe that would work?
Yes, my mom is usually in the midst of these fights, and she helps break it up when it becomes physical. Which is great for me, lol, considering I'm rather petite! My mom truly despises conflicts of any sort, and she will tell me to agree with dad no matter how bad or wrong, morally/mentally/objectively, it is. She believes dad will never change, and that if I continue to explain my point of view, we will both get kicked out. Well, I try to agree and appreciate, so sometimes we are able to keep the peace.
But when it gets really bad, and the police has to come, it's annoying having to lie just to save your dad's arrogant butt so the family wouldn't break.

Thanks for replying! :blushed:
I've met a few INFPs and I was friends with one. My personal experience with a lot of them ended up in a conflict or a disagreement.

and with your situation, it would be best if you let him know straight out of he isn't aware of. For example, when he fails to see other people's point of views, make an attempt and try to make him understand what he doesn't understand in a way that he would understand. In other words, communicate with him in a level that you two are on the same page by logically explaining it and not focused on how you feel, because this would create a lot of complications and misunderstandings. I've been through a similar situation and it was difficult for me but I ended up learning how to cope with a situation like this.
Because they are conflicting relations to each other.

Conflicting relations between psychological ("personality") types

Your mom, although and ESTj (if you have her typed correctly) may be putting in more of a relationship effort then your dad, but your mom can be another type.
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Thanks, Mina44!
Yeah, I'm relatively sure she is ESTJ, she took the test herself, lol. :)
And that link explains quite a bit, that is usually how our conflicts usually turn that way.
However, after reading "physical portrait of an INFp", I'm rather unsure about how accurate this link may be...
Your contribution is much appreciated! :proud:
I'm rather unsure about how accurate this link may be...
I found the 'INFP uncovered' description to be insulting and inaccurate. Whoever wrote that doesn't begin to understand how an INFP's mind works. Brainwashed??? - you've got to be kidding, the one's I know can pick out an agenda a mile away.
I have a friend who is an ESTJ. We differ on so many levels its hilarious. He is always the one trying to be practical and mechanical. Whenever he sees someone make a stupid mistake, he likes to say "Aha! Punishment for your stupidity!" We get in a lot of arguments and he is annoyed with me all the time, but for some reason he doesn't seem to mind too much. I think its probably because he knows how much we love him. What a softie. heheh
I found the 'INFP uncovered' description to be insulting and inaccurate. Whoever wrote that doesn't begin to understand how an INFP's mind works. Brainwashed??? - you've got to be kidding, the one's I know can pick out an agenda a mile away.

That's a Socionics site, first of all, which means you should be more offended because INFp in Socionics is NiFe :tongue:. Second of all, that's not even a good Socionics site - it's rife with bad stereotypes and unfounded statements.
I have a friend who is an ESTJ. We differ on so many levels its hilarious. He is always the one trying to be practical and mechanical. Whenever he sees someone make a stupid mistake, he likes to say "Aha! Punishment for your stupidity!" We get in a lot of arguments and he is annoyed with me all the time, but for some reason he doesn't seem to mind too much. I think its probably because he knows how much we love him. What a softie. heheh
Lol, yeah, one of my closer friends is also an ESTJ, we've been together for 6 or so years now, and we are complete opposites! We are able to always be there for each other (unless she's mad at me), and get along relatively nicely, unless she is being harsh to others. Which annoys me a little. She's the one who will organize the trips, and I'm the one making up the games as we go along. :tongue:
Ahaha, she does that "Punishment!" thing too, lol...actually, so does my mom and dad. Funny thing is, most people who are ...who I will assume are relatively unbiased, since they don't know me/my family very well, will usually take my side in a verbal quarrel. Which is awesome, since I can be pretty emotional when too stressed. And then, I'll sink in a downward spiral towards everything I shouldn't be. Which explains why I made this thread in the first place. :wink:
Hey, thanks for all the replies, my dad seems to be much more easygoing and hasn't suffered through any moodiness anymore. Lol, life is much better in the house. :proud: Your advice helped a lot, and it has helped me understand my dad a little more. I have figured out other ways of communication methods that has helped me rationalize our thoughts into a compromise.
lol where are all the ESTJ's???!
they disappeared from the ESTJ forum. they probably looked at it and went "ahh not the INFPs again, when will they leave us alone?!":crazy:
Ahaha, yeah. XD We INFPs always need to whine about them all day, hmm? :tongue: It's actually not too hard to get along with an ESTJ if they're not unhealthy. :D *shock*
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