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Hello 6s,

I'm back again. I just thought I'd ask: what is your experience with anxiety, if you *don't* have an anxiety disorder? I believe that anxiety disorders often lead to type 6 mistypes (and also that depression often leads to type 4 mistypes). So, for those who are type 6, and do not have an anxiety disorder, what does your anxiety feel like to you? Do you always feel on edge? Is it like a feeling in the back of your head? Something else?

Also, I think I'd like to hear from those who do have an anxiety disorder (all E types), and how you experience anxiety. I'm curious to see if I can tell a difference.

Thanks, guys.
 

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If my anxiety is related with being a type 6, its not over the top. I don't feel as if i have a disorder of any sort. It comes and goes, i can go weeks and mts without feeling an kind of anxiety. I think it depends on the circumstances. It feels bad when it happens, i work though it. I have lots of support from my husband also, he is my rock. He may not relate , although he supports how it makes me feel when it happens. He has a way of making me feel calm, walks me through it and makes everything all better ;-) How it feels, the word that comes to mind is worry, unnecessary worry.

And no it isn't in the head, it sits in the pit of my stomach.
 

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With me, I have generalized anxiety and OCD. I believed I was a 6 because, well, all of that anxiety. And people with anxiety disorders will be unsure of themselves, seek reassurance, etc. I also have panic attacks (occasionally) and phobias. I am often crippled by fear. I'm not sure if the typical anxiety that the 6 carries feels this disabling. Personally, I think it seems unlikely that it feels like this. I also have depression, which just fuels my pessimism. I think I became a pessimist because of abuse, quite honestly.

So, this is what disordered anxiety feels like from my perspective. I am a 1.
 

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With me, I have generalized anxiety and OCD. I believed I was a 6 because, well, all of that anxiety. And people with anxiety disorders will be unsure of themselves, seek reassurance, etc. I also have panic attacks (occasionally) and phobias. I am often crippled by fear. I'm not sure if the typical anxiety that the 6 carries feels this disabling. Personally, I think it seems unlikely that it feels like this. I also have depression, which just fuels my pessimism. I think I became a pessimist because of abuse, quite honestly.

So, this is what disordered anxiety feels like from my perspective. I am a 1.
Wow, that is crazy shite. I've never had anxiety so bad is felt like a panic attack or phobia. Of course i'm just playing with this new cp6, it may or may not be who i am. I'm opened to listening to experiences of others, if i see or feel at any time it doesn't sit well with who i am at my core, i can always change it ;)...Wow again, i hope things get better for you, i can't imagine anxiety to that extreme. Crippled with fear and disabling...holy crap, if this is what a 6 is suppose to feel like, i have mistyped myself, sigh :/
 

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Wow, that is crazy shite. I've never had anxiety so bad is felt like a panic attack or phobia. Of course i'm just playing with this new cp6, it may or may not be who i am. I'm opened to listening to experiences of others, if i see or feel at any time it doesn't sit well with who i am at my core, i can always change it ;)...Wow again, i hope things get better for you, i can't imagine anxiety to that extreme. Crippled with fear and disabling...holy crap, if this is what a 6 is suppose to feel like, i have mistyped myself, sigh :/
Why do you think you may have mistyped yourself?
 

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Why do you think you may have mistyped yourself?
If being a 6 means i'm likely to experience the level of anxiety you have just described for yourself, that doesn't describe my level of anxiety, not even close. My anxiety doesn't effect my life to this degree, or even close to what you have described, it seems very extreme to me. I'm aware that this could be how some 6's may feel, although i never feel that way. My anxiety is petty things that doesn't effect my every day life, my work, personal life or social life. I'm not sure if this anxiety is connected with being nervous, because if it is, that isn't me either. I can walk into a room of 100 people and feel very much at ease. I can work the room without any fear. So i'm still not sure of the real correlation with 6, and how extreme one needs to feel anxiety and fear to be considered a 6. Time will tell :)
 
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Well up until I realized I was a 6, I didn't recognize my anxiety at all. Its like having a small cut somewhere on your body, and the moment you see it, it starts to hurt. So, I've only recently began to notice my anxiety again. I used to experience it really badly when I was much younger, but now not so much. I can't really describe it, because its something that I've felt my whole life so I don't know what it feels like to not have anxiety at some level.

You know the sound of appliances running in a house? After a while its normal, and you never notice it. Then when the powers out, you notice how much quieter the house is. When the power comes back in you hear all the appliances switch back on and the humming sounds returns and you only notice it for a breif moment before it goes back to being "normal". Every once in a while, one of those appliances will act up and you'll notice a different sound that stands out against the background noise and like any appliance owner, you find where the sound is coming from, whats causing, and how to fix it. Then it returns back to the normal humming sound.

Thats how I would describe my anxiety. It hums and is constant thus it is normal. Every once in a while, it stops but it doesn't last long. I've learned to live with it. To the point where I don't notice it. Its not like Im permanently afraid. Im rarely afraid. On the rare occasion that I do feel fear, I just think "fuck it" and plunge in anyway. I have no real doubt in my abilities. Doubt, for me, lasts for like half a second and once I make the decision to do something, I run with it.
 

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Anxiety described with words, courtesy of Ne/Ti:

One moment I am walking along in my little Slice of Reality, having met all the requirements to be left alone by the OUTSIDE WORLD. Casually walking around a corner, I find my usual Route through Life has been obstructed by a massive collision from OUTSIDE. All around me, the debris is solidifying into permanent barricades to my Future Travels, and vermin are scurrying through the damaged Walls, preparing to set up nests, driven to establish their species in this new Environment, with unpredictable side effects to all who dwell Within.

In very little time, I alone must analyze the pattern of this wreckage, determining where to apply force to fracture the newly formed barricades, noting all cracks and crevices that the vermin have scattered into, and also I must not forget to strengthen the Infrastructure of my Life to withstand or prevent another collision in the Future. In addition to breaking apart the barricade debris, I'll need to cart it all away, outside the Borders of my Life if possible, and I need to develop a Countermeasure to actively eliminate the vermin nestled within the Shadows. I will have to be extra vigilant for Months or Years, until I am certain the vermin population is down to Zero.

The collision and debris represent the actions and systems of the outside world, where they force me to make decisions and change my plans. The vermin represent the emotional impact of these situations, and are meant to show how an event in the past can contribute to anxiety in the future.

Now, imagine having gone through such an experience a few hundred times, to the point where when you hear screeching tires, you are already preparing your Response for several possible disasters, in detail, side-by-side.

The level of anxiety built up during previous Responses sets the upper limit, and just the impression that a collision is about to occur starts the anxiety building. Until one is certain that the collision will not occur, the anxiety climbs towards the upper limit, and climbs faster each time new data comes in confirming an imminent collision.

So, essentially, the level of anxiety from the Worst Thing That Ever Happened is the upper limit that anxiety builds towards when another disaster is about to occur or in the process of happening.

On the bright side, when one succeeds in exterminating the vermin of the Worst Thing That Ever Happened, life's not very difficult, so long as nothing Worse happens.

This was off the top of my head, I apologize if I didn't explain it very well. I might give it another go after further reflection.

EDIT: Wow, talking about anxiety is exhausting! I'm on break for a while.
 

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If being a 6 means i'm likely to experience the level of anxiety you have just described for yourself, that doesn't describe my level of anxiety, not even close. My anxiety doesn't effect my life to this degree, or even close to what you have described, it seems very extreme to me. I'm aware that this could be how some 6's may feel, although i never feel that way. My anxiety is petty things that doesn't effect my every day life, my work, personal life or social life. I'm not sure if this anxiety is connected with being nervous, because if it is, that isn't me either. I can walk into a room of 100 people and feel very much at ease. I can work the room without any fear. So i'm still not sure of the real correlation with 6, and how extreme one needs to feel anxiety and fear to be considered a 6. Time will tell :)
I'm actually a 1. The 6 was a mistype. I really do believe that my anxiety disorder played a role in that mistype, based on the responses I'm seeing here. My anxiety is like prison, and I do not learn anything from it. Then again, I have a disorder, so that is likely why.
 

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I'm actually a 1. The 6 was a mistype. I really do believe that my anxiety disorder played a role in that mistype, based on the responses I'm seeing here. My anxiety is like prison, and I do not learn anything from it. Then again, I have a disorder, so that is likely why.
When i get anxious it usually stems from preconceived notions that i have created in my mind. Those notions don't have to be real, although because i become fixated on them, i have to either talk myself out of them, or have others confirm them not to be true. I'm quite in tuned with the motives of other people, many times this anxiety turns out to be accurate about the person, circumstance that makes me feel anxious. I may compare what i know to be true with future circumstances, especially if it involves the same individual. This doesn't stop me from becoming anxious, it may even make me feel worse knowing what the outcome will likely be. Its a bit hard to explain. Never to the point of panic, only to the point of questioning in a negative way. Anxiety can make me go from anxious to pissed off too, that may in turn lead to anger. They can all be connected depending on the circumstance.
 

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When i get anxious it usually stems from preconceived notions that i have created in my mind. Those notions don't have to be real, although because i become fixated on them, i have to either talk myself out of them, or have others confirm them not to be true. I'm quite in tuned with the motives of other people, many times this anxiety turns out to be accurate about the person, circumstance that makes me feel anxious. I may compare what i know to be true with future circumstances, especially if it involves the same individual. This doesn't stop me from becoming anxious, it may even make me feel worse knowing what the outcome will likely be. Its a bit hard to explain. Never to the point of panic, only to the point of questioning in a negative way. Anxiety can make me go from anxious to pissed off too, that may in turn lead to anger. They an be all connected depending on the circumstance.
The way you describe your anxiety, I'm wondering if generalized anxiety disorder may be a possibility for you. Your anxiety actually sounds serious- different from just being worried.
 

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The way you describe your anxiety, I'm wondering if generalized anxiety disorder may be a possibility for you. Your anxiety actually sounds serious- different from just being worried.
No believe me, it's only exaggerated worry. What you described for yourself is serious, i would be concerned if i started having panic attacks and feeling crippled with fear. I have never experienced any of that, ever. I'm not sure if what i described for myself is only related with 6 either, because i know a few 5's, 7's and 2's who have confirmed having the same kind of anxiety when confronted with similar circumstances. Worry over the unknown until it shows its face. This may not even be connected with any ENNG, it could be connected with being human, so...still pondering and learning. Also because this only happens once and awhile , not ongoing, leaves it opened for question.
 

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No believe me, it's only exaggerated worry. What you described for yourself is serious, i would be concerned if i starting having panic attacks and feeling crippled with fear. I have never experienced any of that, ever. I'm not sure if what i described for myself is only related with 6 either, because i know a few 5's, 7's and 2's who have confirmed having the same kind of anxiety when confronted with similar circumstances. Worry over the unknown until it shows its face. This may not even be connected with any ENNG, it could be connected with being human, so...still pondering and learning. Also because this only happens once and awhile , not ongoing, leaves it opened for question.
Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying.

Yes, I do have a serious problem. Have to wait at least 6 months to see a shrink. Stuff like the less-than-ideal health care system makes me frustrated with Canada at times.
 

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Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying.

Yes, I do have a serious problem. Have to wait at least 6 months to see a shrink. Stuff like the less-than-ideal health care system makes me frustrated with Canada at times.
Yes, the health care system can take time, especially if you're trying to see a specialist. Think of it this way, if you were in lets say the USA and didn't have insurance, you would likely never see a specialist, or get the help you need. I wish you all the best and hope you can get through this. Hopefully you will be in good hands with someone who knows how to deal with what you need specifically. I'd make sure to do lots of research about the Dr. you intend to see. Canada like all Countries have some real quacks out there, so doing your homework could be useful for you in the bigger picture. Inquire about where they got their education, how long they are in practise their reputation and so on. Finding a Dr. who is reputable is important to your process with him/her. Good Luck :)
 

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I'm not sure if the typical anxiety that the 6 carries feels this disabling. Personally, I think it seems unlikely that it feels like this.
It is unlikely. I'd go so far as to say it's very unlikely.

In some ways I can easily tell what anxiety is 6ish and what fears are not. When I feel legit fear, that's not 6ish... Of course it's not. That's my phobias and depression mixing together to make me unable to cope well.

6ish anxiety is, to me, more like faint music playing from far away. I notice it but it doesn't really rule my life. I might focus in on it to hear a few chords, or sometimes it's louder. It's not really directed towards anything, it's very broad. In comparison to my fears, 6ish anxiety is a deeper feeling.

Anxiety, however, is a truly existential emotion and in order to better understand it, it is perhaps helpful to turn to the existential philosophers who made a point of studying anxiety in all its forms and all its manifestations. Kierkegaard defines anxiety as the "dizziness of freedom" and describes it as the underlying, all pervasive, universal condition of human existence. Anxiety is then, not fear of any one thing, but of the very condition of being conscious and of having to make choices in a world which does not make its meaning or goals transparent to us and which frequently enough seems inimicable to human aspirations and to human existence. It is this more fundamental emotion which most directly characterizes the core emotional state of type Six, not any of the more immediate fears, which often enough are simply place holders in the consciousness of the type Six personality. It is as though the Six feels their anxiety bubbling up to the center of consciousness and then scans the environment for something external to fear; this feared, but potentially manageable thing, can then occupy the Six's attention and avert it from that nameless horror that they sense might exist at the very heart of human existence.
 

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My anxiety is similar to the other 6s here. While I do occasionally experience periods of exaggerated and fairly illogical anxiety (usually because of work), the reason I knew I was a 6 was that most of my decisions are made in order to be 'safe' and to reduce my anxiety. Before that I thought I was an 8, but the motivation is different.
 
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What does type 6 anxiety actually feel like?
..Horrible. It kills me.
 
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