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Yep, it's another one of these threads.

I'm kind of curious to find out how we percieve other types. What types of people are you more/less likely to 'click' with? (both off of the bat and over a longer time period).

If you aren't an ISTP, what do you honestly think of us as people? Was this the perception you had of them when you first met?

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For the record...

I find talking to XNFX girls really hard - it's like they're talking 'girl' and I'm talking 'socially awkward outcast'. Similarly, when talking to other XSTX (esp. ESTP) girls I 'connect' with them easily (why oh why aren't there more of you? >.<)

Actually, I swear that I get on 100x better with males than I do females regardless of their type. I just feel so much more at ease around guys.

Strong E types piss me off. They either grab the conversation by the horns and don't listen to a word I say or they set my inbuilt 'bullshit detector' ringing. I can become really outgoing when talking to an introvert, but stick me in front of a EXXX I transform into a shy mess who doesn't have any idea what to say.

ENXX... ugh. I have a ENFP friend where the conversation is somewhat forced and there are notable periods where neither of us say anything. Idk, people say ENFX types are the ideal match for ISTPs, but I can never seem to hit it off with them. I blame it on T/F clashing.
 

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ENXX... ugh. I have a ENFP friend where the conversation is somewhat forced and there are notable periods where neither of us say anything. Idk, people say ENFX types are the ideal match for ISTPs, but I can never seem to hit it off with them. I blame it on T/F clashing.
I don't agree ENFP are the ideal match for ISTP, so this is something we DEF agree with. If anything we're from completely different planets. We don't share even 1 function. I blame the clashing on S/N, not F/T. This is why you have notable periods where neither of you say anything. Absolutely nothing in common, nothing. I only know 1 ISTP IRL, i would never hang out with this person alone. We would sit there like 2 mutes. Even when there is a group, most of the time someone is spending it explaining all the nitty gritty details in order for her to keep up. And that person is never moi.
 

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You mean you know one person you THINK is an ISTP, but since you never talk, there's no way you know her well enough to actually determine her type. and since you dont know ANY confirmed ISTPs, you're not exactly an expert on ISTPs to begin with.

just saying.
 

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You mean you know one person you THINK is an ISTP, but since you never talk, there's no way you know her well enough to actually determine her type. and since you dont know ANY confirmed ISTPs, you're not exactly an expert on ISTPs to begin with.

just saying.
I only know 1 ISTP IRL. ( copied from my post )

I think. What posting did you read. I said i KNOW, not think. And yes i do know her type, she confirmed it in conversation while sitting with other friends. I wasn't surprised or shocked. It just confirmed why we have nothing in common. During conversation, she kept saying " What do you mean" Lol. Her sister( INTP ) is a good friend of my husband. Thankfully she had the patients to keep explaining things. Everyone else just kept grinning or giving subtle eye rolls. Even her sister ( INTP) lost patients.
 

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I know two ISTPs IRL. I click with both of them. My ISTP co-worker and I get along great. And, we have bouts of conversations. We may go weeks with just hello/goodbye and then we may have a cycle where we have extended conversation daily for weeks. I enjoy talking with her and really enjoy her company. We don't always see eye to eye. But, the best part about it is ....if it makes sense to me, then I will embrace and accept her views and vice versa.

And, the other ISTP well you already know the story on that one. Nevertheless, we do click and we have great conversations. Overall, I enjoy ISTPs very much. It seems you have a vast range of interests. I enjoy bantering with ISTPs the best. I admire your strength, determination, honesty, and independence. In my opinion, for the most part you guys keep it real. And, I know if I want complete, honest, and rational feedback, then I know to ask an ISTP, ISTJ, or another ENTJ.

The bluntness and honesty of an ISTP is refreshing to me. It doesn't mean I always agree with what is being said. But, at least I feel confident in knowing where I stand with the ones I know IRL. And, SPs bring out the silliness and adventure in me unlike no one else can. Three cheers to ISTP and SPs in general...well maybe one cheer for ESFPs but that's another story.:tongue:
 

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you just sparked a realization for me....

i like talking to XSTX or XNTX women, and XNFX or XSFX men.
Yes. I totally get that! Actually, my reaction to ENFJs is very different between genders. Hm...

I don't agree ENFP are the ideal match for ISTP, so this is something we DEF agree with. If anything we're from completely different planets. We don't share even 1 function. I blame the clashing on S/N, not F/T. This is why you have notable periods where neither of you say anything. Absolutely nothing in common, nothing. I only know 1 ISTP IRL, i would never hang out with this person alone. We would sit there like 2 mutes. Even when there is a group, most of the time someone is spending it explaining all the nitty gritty details in order for her to keep up. And that person is never moi.
Idk, if you ask ISTPs who they are compatible with ENFX pops up a lot.

The ENFJs seem to say every type but ISTP.

The ENFPs don't innately say, but mention the word ISTP and it will usually spark off a few heated posts.

Yeah, you're right about the N/S thing. Thanks.

I know two ISTPs IRL. I click with both of them. My ISTP co-worker and I get along great. And, we have bouts of conversations. We may go weeks with just hello/goodbye and then we may have a cycle where we have extended conversation daily for weeks. I enjoy talking with her and really enjoy her company. We don't always see eye to eye. But, the best part about it is ....if it makes sense to me, then I will embrace and accept her views and vice versa.
Yeah... I would say the oscillating closeness is a feature of ISTP relationships. Sometimes I feel really, really happy to see you, other times you're just getting on my nerves.

Also, sometimes I'm just flat out not in the mood to be social.
 

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Yeah... I would say the oscillating closeness is a feature of ISTP relationships. Sometimes I feel really, really happy to see you, other times you're just getting on my nerves.

Also, sometimes I'm just flat out not in the mood to be social.
I'm not sure about other ENTJs or NTs in general. But, I can definitely relate to what you said above and the feeling is mutual. ;D
 

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I only know 1 ISTP IRL. ( copied from my post )

I think. What posting did you read. I said i KNOW, not think. And yes i do know her type, she confirmed it in conversation while sitting with other friends. I wasn't surprised or shocked. It just confirmed why we have nothing in common. During conversation, she kept saying " What do you mean" Lol. Her sister( INTP ) is a good friend of my husband. Thankfully she had the patients to keep explaining things. Everyone else just kept grinning or giving subtle eye rolls. Even her sister ( INTP) lost patients.
sounds like your acquaintance has very poorly developed Ni or isnt very intelligent.

I know two ISTPs IRL. I click with both of them. My ISTP co-worker and I get along great. And, we have bouts of conversations. We may go weeks with just hello/goodbye and then we may have a cycle where we have extended conversation daily for weeks. I enjoy talking with her and really enjoy her company. We don't always see eye to eye. But, the best part about it is ....if it makes sense to me, then I will embrace and accept her views and vice versa.
i work with an ENTJ and we have a friendship just like that.

Yes. I totally get that! Actually, my reaction to ENFJs is very different between genders. Hm...
i've noticed a lot of gender differentials in the types i hang out with. i do love INTP males and ESFP females though. but mostly i like males with more feeling function and women with less.
 

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i've noticed a lot of gender differentials in the types i hang out with. i do love INTP males and ESFP females though. but mostly i like males with more feeling function and women with less.
Yes... I don't mind feeling functions in males. Actually, for me it's good because it balances out my heavy T preference.

In girls however...

That shriekey, crying, bitching crap? Ugh, I can't relate to it at all >.<
 

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sounds like your acquaintance has very poorly developed Ni or isnt very intelligent.
Nah, she's actually a Dr. very intelligent. Poor to no Ni obviously.
 

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NXX... ugh. I have a ENFP friend where the conversation is somewhat forced and there are notable periods where neither of us say anything. Idk, people say ENFX types are the ideal match for ISTPs, but I can never seem to hit it off with them. I blame it on T/F clashing.
I have an ISTP friend who I talk to on the phone a lot, and this happens all the time. It just depends on what kind of conversation we're having, what we're talking about, etc.

I can relate very much to the "never saying anything," although we've had several conversations on the phone that lasted up to 6 hours. It just depends on how passionate I'm feeling about something. I'm not a very good listener, and that's what irks him the most. He's noticed that, and usually keeps kind of quiet. I have to be feeling really open with my emotions and concerns to keep a conversation running, and I have to get ask him about opinions, that sort of things. My only problem is sometime I'm just feeling too self-absorbed to function properly.

I have a lot to say about this issue, so please bear with me. I've been talking to him for four or five years, and we have a kind of odd relationship. We never see eachother, but we just kind of share what's on eachother's minds. I do most of the talking, most of the conversation steering, and I really appreciate hearing his intelligent and knowledgeable thoughts. He does come across as very terse to me sometimes, but I appreciate that far more than false confirmation. It's just sometimes this makes me feel really bad, guilty that I'm not doing my part in the conversation, that sort of thing. I can start subjects kind of easily, but I don't have a natural ability to sustain conversations. Sometimes I don't completely listen to the things he says, whenever I'm not feeling very interested, and he detects this and it has lately made him feel very discouraged. I'm trying to improve myself in this area.

But our conversations about religion and politics are extremely elaborate. I love hearing his opinions about this stuff, and he seems to like sharing his knowledge with me. He knows a lot about things, and I like accumulating trivia over the courses of our conversations. When a conversation isn't going too well, it's usually my own fault, either because I'm too caught up in my work (creative writing) and don't know how to relax, or I don't want to open up my concerns to him because I'm afraid of them being belittled and ridiculed. I think he's great, and I really appreciate his well-developed integrity and honesty, but I just wish he were a little bit more sensitive sometimes. I don't hold this against him, though. I'm usually the one who instigates our conversations, and our communication style works best when I just kind of faucet the things that are on my mind, and let him create a lot of good conclusions.

One other thing: he's very critical about my tastes sometimes, and this sometimes causes me to get defensive.
 

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one of my best friends is a (confirmed) ISTP. i liked her right away when we met, and ten years later we're very close. she's genuine, honest, caring, and courageous. i love how open and candid she is, and the fact that i can fully trust her. we have the most interesting conversations and can talk for hours without getting bored. she says we come to the same conclusions, but through different ways of thinking. she and i fully understand each other's need for solitude and our friendship works out incredibly smoothly in that respect ~ no conflicts over smothering or need for space...

i also suspect one or both of my brothers are ISTPs and i'm close to both of them.

and i know i'm not the only INFJ who is close to an ISTP. :)
 

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I relate best with anyone who doesn't have an oversized ego. I tolerate best with those who share similar functions of my own. My ESFJ mother and I can get along really great. But there are days when her tone of voice really fucking irritates me. Is her way or the highway for the most part. This is where we clash. ESTJ's are really boring if they have an oversized ego, thankfully my step father is extremely mature, so we are really chill.

ENFJ's are hard to tolerate because they are very structured for the future. Yawn.

ESFP's are great if you want to have a good time. They take nothing serious and can be a big ball of fun. I know three or four IRL.

My ISFP step sister is fucking chill, and we get along really well. I got her back, and she's got mine.
 

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Nah, she's actually a Dr. very intelligent. Poor to no Ni obviously.
What is she a doctor of?

I second the over-sized ego. I'd rather grate my face like cheese than listen to someone with an ego that fills the room. Also when people publicly congratulate themselves routinely, I never say anything. I figure they did enough work for the both of us.
 

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Right now the people I hang out with the most are ENFJ (obviuosly...since im' married to one), ENFP(male), XSTJ(female), ESTP (female), ESFP(male), ENTJ (female)


lol i clearly dont have a problem with extroverts
 
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