ENFP's are very warm, but not too deep. I never feel drained talking to one. When you enter a party full of strangers, they are the one that hops right over to you, make you feel welcome, and introduce you to some new friends, (including other introverts who feel the same as you). I like these people.
@cityofcircuits, your avatar shot out at me and I burst into laughter. lmao. You brightened my day with that bright blue grin.
@m_dogg, I know what you mean about ENTP's shattering your world. My bff's an ENTP and he has done that to me a million times over the eleven years of our friendship. Still does it to me sometimes. It's awful. But then, I do it to people, too. It comes from having a weak Si or something I think (maybe?). Idk. But anyway, I just wanted to say that, growing up, my step mom was an ISFP and my dad is an ISTP. She went into a depression, she was far away from home, she couldn't handle the politics of my dad's family and was just having a tough time. He totally couldn't read her on a deeper level. Which I found totally frustrating because he didn't know how to help her. Instead of working on their issues and him even recognizing the issue at hand or listening to her, they just broke up.
I really loved her. She was like a second mother to me and I still think about her a lot. She impacted who I am on a deeper level and made me grow into the person I am today.
I'm just saying, to all the ISFPs in here, please, don't sell the ENTP's short so soon. There are a few thinkers out there who aren't into turning the external world into their ideal visions of efficiency and order like the ExTJs. Heck, those ExTJs really freak me out, too, man. It's like you said @Inguz, I end up saying the exact same thing when they tell me to get my life together: "That's just like your opinion, man." lmao.
I think thats really awesome and empathetic that you saw your step mom's point of view, normally kids always stick to their blood folks' side, not to say that there was a battle. Yeah, my dad is an ISTP and my mom is an INFJ. He loves her tremendously but sometimes it goes completely over his head when he hurt her feelings or when she needs a breather. During these times, I'll text him with a heads up, "Mom is pissed you didn't stay home and help set up the party with her," or "What you said hurt her feelings." Then, without saying anything, he'll return home with food and decorations for the party, or flowers, or what have you. He's a lucky bastard he has me as the translator.
One thing I always liked about thinkers, generally thinking/perceiving, is that you gives are so practical in a good way. Or, I guess I mean, pragmatic; you're able to handle sticky situations, such as politics and moot points, with a grain of salt. Or, from a feeler's perspective, you do. Plus they seem to have the most colorful, blunt, crude sense of humor, which I think I favor most. I try and tell some of my jokes to xNFx's or xSFx's, and the room grows quiet, as now everyone thinks I'm a huge douchebag. But then I go and tell the same insulting joke to xSTP's or xNTP's and they add on it with even more biting offensive behavior, it's wonderful!
OKay, so I've met a few feelers out there with hilariously dark humor, I won't generalize.
@marzipan01 @m_dogg My dad is also an ISTP, we should totally start a club together!
Regarding humour I think Enneagram has a huge impact, for example I have a hard time imagining 1 or 2 generally appreciating jokes about diseases or disabilities.
My friend told me that I appear to be someone who is occasionally attacked by bees.
Most people are these bees.
ISFPs and ENTPs I like. The other ones I don't know what they're doing.
Oh, I wanted to say, I wish that I could have explained the situation to my dad in hindsight. I've always had difficulty explaining my insights. They're just these intuitions about how things and people work and I've always been so interested in language because I'm always trying to explain them to people in a way that they will understand and won't get me chased by bees.
Doesn't matter how hard I try though, I end up getting chased by bees anyway. lmao. That's why I'm pretty hermetic, actually. Nobody understands what I mean and it's nice to be alone with my mind. Everyone in my head understands me pretty well. lmao.![]()
@marzipan01 @m_dogg My dad is also an ISTP, we should totally start a club together!
Regarding humour I think Enneagram has a huge impact, for example I have a hard time imagining 1 or 2 generally appreciating jokes about diseases or disabilities.
maybe it is enneagram. and those jokes are the best! we should jsut start a thread on istp dads. apparently a lot of isfp's have istp dads. maybe its my strive to be the opposite of him. and yet i'm dating someone very similar to him. =S
I don't appreciate dead baby jokes. I'm not saying that you can't make them or anything, but I just highly dislike them.Erlack. Yeah, I can laugh at anything but there are some topics I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. In those cases, I replace the horror with dead baby jokes. Everybody likes a good dead baby joke.
I don't appreciate dead baby jokes. I'm not saying that you can't make them or anything, but I just highly dislike them.
I suspect this is where my E8 comes in to play, I want to protect the innocent and fragile little things with any means necessary.
I'm not sure if i'm catching on to the bees thing. Could you clarify somewhat? I don't want to misinterpret you. It's funny, cuz I'm in a debate about the difference between xSFx metaphor and xNFx or xNTx metaphor....
After a million times of reading about it, hearing about it, watching tv shows about, and experiencing it, I have just now grasped the awareness of gravitation. Not even joking. My mind is blown.
Anyhow... back to your response... you should write down these thoughts, even in just adjectives, moods, verbs, or color- if you have to. The idea is to get out your thoughts, cut out the complexity of it, then you can make a solid sentence, then recite it. It's what i do. I'm like 53% ISFP, 46.something% INFP, so I know where you're coming from with that difficulty.
Yeah, ISTP's, INTJ's, ENFP's and ENTP's I seem to kick it off with. Unless the ENTP's are flirting. Then my universe has been shattered.
Does that ever happen to you? You think you made an awesome friend, but really, the whole time, they never wanted to be friends, they wanted to be more (or less).